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Dennis Donovan

(27,268 posts)
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 06:41 AM Oct 3

The New York Times is calling for Trump to release his medical records

Sara Spector
The New York Times is calling for Trump to release his medical records! We can all see his frailty, the decline in his mental acuity! Not to mention his worsening psychopathy! He’s deliberately hiding his health issues.

7:33 AM · Oct 3, 2024


NYT (archived) - Trump Promised to Release His Medical Records. He Still Won’t Do It.

If elected again, he would become the oldest president by the end of his term. Yet he is refusing to disclose even basic health information.

By Emily Baumgaertner and Maggie Haberman

Oct. 3, 2024, 5:01 a.m. ET

As a presidential candidate in 2015, Donald J. Trump declined to release his medical records, instead offering a four-paragraph letter from his personal doctor proclaiming that he would be “the healthiest person ever elected to the presidency.”

In 2020, hospitalized with Covid and running for re-election, Mr. Trump’s doctors gave minimal information about his condition, which, it emerged later, was far more dire than their public descriptions let on.

In 2024, days before becoming the official Republican presidential nominee for the third time, he was grazed by a would-be assassin’s bullet, yet his campaign did not hold a briefing on his condition, release hospital records or make the emergency physicians who treated him available for interview.

Now, just over a month from an election that could make Mr. Trump, 78, the oldest person ever to serve as president (82 years, 7 months and 6 days when his term would end in January 2029), he is refusing to release even the most basic information about his health.

/snip


Given his mental decompensation, it's necessary!


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The New York Times is calling for Trump to release his medical records (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Oct 3 OP
The day after Jack Smith drops his bomb displacedvermoter Oct 3 #1
At least it's still on him durablend Oct 3 #6
True displacedvermoter Oct 3 #8
Oh that's good. You should get a job at the NYT Ray Bruns Oct 3 #40
This is JD Vance's play to get them in the White House to wait for Trump to die. And/or implement the 25 Amendment. usaf-vet Oct 3 #44
It's Peter Thiel's play to get his puppet Vance in the White House Attilatheblond Oct 3 #63
And a good fix it was! usaf-vet Oct 3 #64
That's it exactly Charging Triceratops Oct 3 #76
Wait? He'd be lucky to last the week. Sudden stroke. Fell down the stairs. mucholderthandirt Oct 4 #91
Maybe they want to be on the right side of history. paleotn Oct 3 #11
It's far too late for that. n/t. NNadir Oct 3 #35
You forgot the snark tag. erronis Oct 3 #50
Or maybe they are setting the stage for MAGA backers to dethrone Trump wnylib Oct 3 #65
Years of NYT legitimizing Trump's insanity.. agingdem Oct 3 #57
I don't know when that picture was taken, but his decline to his latest picture is hard to miss. Swede Oct 3 #2
His decline could be from Alzheiner's, which his father had. wnylib Oct 3 #21
Perhaps a cocktail of those you mentioned plus syphilis. PuraVidaDreamin Oct 3 #29
Sounds about right. I just hope that he has wnylib Oct 3 #31
Don't forget that trump bragged about his affairs as being his "Vietnam" - Agent Orange indeed. erronis Oct 3 #52
Drinking coke from the can is asking for it. GreenWave Oct 3 #79
That's funny.. I was thinking Cha Oct 4 #90
If pressed, he'll just lean on Dr. Feelgood to release another letter proclaiming him the healthiest Vinca Oct 3 #3
He'll have to find a new Dr. Feelgood PatSeg Oct 3 #18
He's still got Ronnie Jackson radical noodle Oct 3 #27
So, Ronny is still drunk? nt Mopar151 Oct 3 #36
Drunk or sober radical noodle Oct 3 #41
Ah yes, Dr. Feelgood the Second PatSeg Oct 3 #85
I don't know about the NYT's.......................... Lovie777 Oct 3 #4
OMG, did hell finally freeze over??? Ferrets are Cool Oct 3 #5
We must be patient. He is still working on releasing his taxes. dameatball Oct 3 #7
That's what I was thinking PatSeg Oct 3 #19
He can start by explaining why his skin is turning brown BWdem4life Oct 3 #9
It just looks better with the purple hair. dchill Oct 3 #56
I thought it was the blue stage setting at the debate, but the blue appears to be semi-permanent. CrispyQ Oct 3 #80
'Sponges? Spray?' Dip. dchill Oct 3 #82
IKR? Wednesdays Oct 3 #66
Maybe he "happened to turn black" Diraven Oct 3 #72
It would be some fabricated bullshit from Dr Ronny PillMill NQCowboy68 Oct 3 #10
I'd bet a lot of Republicans are hoping that Trump wins, then immediately dies William Seger Oct 3 #12
And Mike Johnson as VP LiberalArkie Oct 3 #15
I don't think Johnson would ever get confirmed as VP though NYC Liberal Oct 3 #55
Read somewhere that's the plan. Katinfl Oct 3 #25
He's definitely more dangerous William Seger Oct 3 #34
I think you're right Ananda62 Oct 3 #73
I guess they forgot MorbidButterflyTat Oct 3 #77
That's the plan, I think. Vance was chosen to be Trump 2.0. wnylib Oct 3 #28
I'm hoping that Trump loses, then immediately goes to jail. dchill Oct 3 #83
Gut feeling.................... Lovie777 Oct 3 #13
This. I think it's been the plan all along. nt TBF Oct 3 #51
How many more weeks can this go on? bucolic_frolic Oct 3 #14
Dumpster fire needs bed rest... Omnipresent Oct 3 #16
What?!??!!! The New York Times has discovered the Donold Trump is old and senile? Now THAT is news!!!! NNadir Oct 3 #17
I think they are bleeding subscriptions and possibly advertisers with their antics. Bev54 Oct 3 #69
They certainly bled away my subscription. When I called to cancel and they asked me "Why?" I told the rep... NNadir Oct 3 #78
He will just pay a quack to say he is healthy as a horse. redstatebluegirl Oct 3 #20
Do any valid records exist??? TNNurse Oct 3 #22
yes. at walter reed. mopinko Oct 3 #39
Thanks, had forgotten or TNNurse Oct 3 #43
i've been licking my chops about those mri's for a lonnnnggg time. mopinko Oct 3 #45
The best medicine I need is your vote BOSSHOG Oct 3 #23
Better late than never? HAB911 Oct 3 #24
Trump is just trying to hide his pindickitis. ECL213 Oct 3 #26
That is like 8 years too late and the audit on those tax forms should be done by now too. nt doc03 Oct 3 #30
+1 dalton99a Oct 3 #33
At this point who the hell cares, we know he is not rich, we are more interested in his crimes Bev54 Oct 3 #70
Trump's mental and physical decline far surpassed Biden's Freethinker65 Oct 3 #32
He'll get right on that very soon Generic Brad Oct 3 #37
Oh, so nine years in and the NYT is "calling for" his medical records . . . hatrack Oct 3 #38
Perfect! mdbl Oct 3 #54
K&R spanone Oct 3 #42
Is that crazy looking doctor from 2016 still alive. He wrote the letter that said trump is superman or something. Silent Type Oct 3 #46
No, he's deceased. Trump's goons also busted into his practice... keep_left Oct 3 #86
What are they doing?? Like Charlie Brown and the football Evolve Dammit Oct 3 #47
Doctor says: He can never have a heart attack! usonian Oct 3 #48
Kamala should release hers/challenge him to. Funtatlaguy Oct 3 #49
Why the rush asking for Trump's medical records at this late stage? dlk Oct 3 #53
Surreptitiously laying groundwork for BattleRow Oct 3 #61
He won't Old Crank Oct 3 #58
They're still being audited Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 3 #59
Weak. They should be demanding his dropping out and facing his consequences. bullimiami Oct 3 #60
His ENORMOUS EGO and his VANITY will not allow hiim. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 3 #62
How can anyone call the NYT news? Are we sure Murdock doesn't own it too? PortTack Oct 3 #67
He'll never release his medical records, but I still think it's good that this is happening. ShazzieB Oct 3 #68
Trump Campaign Motto: Torchlight Oct 3 #71
😂😂😂😂😂 live love laugh Oct 3 #74
Look on a potential bright side to the request. usonian Oct 3 #75
TFG will never release his real medical records LetMyPeopleVote Oct 3 #81
Internet hackers seem to be able to hack into any system any where any time. Why don' t they do democracy favor? demosincebirth Oct 3 #84
"We are a nation that just recently heard that Saudi Arabia and Russia Rob H. Oct 3 #87
Vance too. He may suffer from congenital heart condition as Elizabeth Taylor applegrove Oct 4 #88
Wow.. the NYT... bet TSF & Faux are Pissed. And all those Tax Cut hungry Billionaires. Cha Oct 4 #89

displacedvermoter

(3,199 posts)
1. The day after Jack Smith drops his bomb
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 06:51 AM
Oct 3

the Times shifts to Trump's medical records. Bob and weave, keep shifting the focus.

durablend

(8,014 posts)
6. At least it's still on him
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:02 AM
Oct 3

They could've gone with "BOMB DROPPED ON TRUMP, WHY IT'S BAD NEWS FOR HARRIS"

usaf-vet

(7,012 posts)
44. This is JD Vance's play to get them in the White House to wait for Trump to die. And/or implement the 25 Amendment.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:13 AM
Oct 3

Attilatheblond

(4,516 posts)
63. It's Peter Thiel's play to get his puppet Vance in the White House
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:57 AM
Oct 3

There, I fixed if for you.

My brother always said I am the person who will flat out say what others are only thinking.

mucholderthandirt

(1,201 posts)
91. Wait? He'd be lucky to last the week. Sudden stroke. Fell down the stairs.
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 05:00 AM
Oct 4

Slipped and busted his noggin on that fancy desk. Fell from an it's-not-suspicious-at-all open window in the residency. Another sniper, can you believe it? Bad luck, buddy. Hello, President Vance.

wnylib

(24,707 posts)
65. Or maybe they are setting the stage for MAGA backers to dethrone Trump
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:09 AM
Oct 3

and crown Vance as his successor.

agingdem

(8,541 posts)
57. Years of NYT legitimizing Trump's insanity..
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:44 AM
Oct 3

Last edited Thu Oct 3, 2024, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

cleaning up his verbal vomit, giving his toxic spew gravitas...and now the NYT wants his medical records...why is that more relevant than Trump's four years admitting his guilt, confessing his crimes and Jack Smith throwing 165 pages of receipts in Trump's bloated face?...

Swede

(34,829 posts)
2. I don't know when that picture was taken, but his decline to his latest picture is hard to miss.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 06:54 AM
Oct 3

Him keeping track of all his dozens of scams must destroy the mind and body.

wnylib

(24,707 posts)
21. His decline could be from Alzheiner's, which his father had.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:33 AM
Oct 3

Or it could be long term, mental fog aftermath from covid. Maybe a combination of both.

wnylib

(24,707 posts)
31. Sounds about right. I just hope that he has
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:45 AM
Oct 3

enough lucid moments to realize what a decrepit blob he is now. Karma.

erronis

(17,127 posts)
52. Don't forget that trump bragged about his affairs as being his "Vietnam" - Agent Orange indeed.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:39 AM
Oct 3

Cha

(305,823 posts)
90. That's funny.. I was thinking
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 01:00 AM
Oct 4

"All those Diet Cokes.'

Seems he's been on Adderall, too.. and what was causing all those sleep hangovers when he was in Court waiting to be Convicted on 34 Felony charges?

Vinca

(51,208 posts)
3. If pressed, he'll just lean on Dr. Feelgood to release another letter proclaiming him the healthiest
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 06:56 AM
Oct 3

human being to ever walk the earth.

radical noodle

(8,800 posts)
27. He's still got Ronnie Jackson
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:39 AM
Oct 3

who will praise trump's health and mental abilities as being the best he's ever seen.

PatSeg

(49,754 posts)
19. That's what I was thinking
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:31 AM
Oct 3

Apparently he's been under audit for over eight years now and people just quit asking him to release them.

CrispyQ

(38,542 posts)
80. I thought it was the blue stage setting at the debate, but the blue appears to be semi-permanent.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 10:15 AM
Oct 3

He's definitely gone from orange to brown, but the ears are still pink. I'd like to know how he applies his makeup to that wattle under his chin. Sponges? Spray? His shirt collars must be a mess. He's a mess.

William Seger

(11,111 posts)
12. I'd bet a lot of Republicans are hoping that Trump wins, then immediately dies
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:16 AM
Oct 3

... leaving Vance at the wheel.

Katinfl

(266 posts)
25. Read somewhere that's the plan.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:38 AM
Oct 3

Some right -wing group is pushing for trump to get elected then they “25th amendment” him and Vance is in. You know they always plan for the long game, like stacking the courts. Vance is being groomed to take over if and when. He’s trump with brains. He may be even more dangerous.

William Seger

(11,111 posts)
34. He's definitely more dangerous
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:50 AM
Oct 3

Trump's obsession with maintaining his ridiculously bloated but extremely fragile ego caused a lot of problems for the country, such as his tragic mishandling of the pandemic, but Vance is a right-wing zealot who literally wants to convert our democracy to a fascist state.

Ananda62

(308 posts)
73. I think you're right
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:35 AM
Oct 3

Maybe the NYT’s Op-Ed is the just a step to help “the public” get onboard with Vance’s eventual 25th Amendment plan? They know Trump won’t release his medical records, but why not lay the seeds of his possible mental incompetence now, so it’ll be easier when the time comes to use the 25th?

wnylib

(24,707 posts)
28. That's the plan, I think. Vance was chosen to be Trump 2.0.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:40 AM
Oct 3

Not likeable enough to get elected on his own, but someone to take over after getting Trump through the election. Someone who will implement Project 2025.

Lovie777

(15,200 posts)
13. Gut feeling....................
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:18 AM
Oct 3

RWers are setting up Vance for eventual takeover of the cult, and he is more insane than shithole.

NNadir

(34,814 posts)
17. What?!??!!! The New York Times has discovered the Donold Trump is old and senile? Now THAT is news!!!!
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:24 AM
Oct 3

Bev54

(11,935 posts)
69. I think they are bleeding subscriptions and possibly advertisers with their antics.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:25 AM
Oct 3

I read that even CNN is going to put its online news on subscription because they no longer have enough viewers so I am sure their advertising dollars are getting lower. It is just about time to get some very rich dems to buy them up and turn them around to actual news sites.

NNadir

(34,814 posts)
78. They certainly bled away my subscription. When I called to cancel and they asked me "Why?" I told the rep...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:58 AM
Oct 3

...why and my general impression was that he had been hearing this quite a bit. It's hard to tell over the phone what a person's reaction, but after hanging up, I had the feeling the rep sort of agreed.

It was after they published a "news" piece reporting how tall and handsome the convicted intellectually impaired fat senile felon was.

mopinko

(71,937 posts)
39. yes. at walter reed.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:58 AM
Oct 3

i suspect he had long term damage from his bout of covid. but at any rate, there r brain scans, from that and from his ‘midnight run’ when they thought he had a stroke.

mopinko

(71,937 posts)
45. i've been licking my chops about those mri's for a lonnnnggg time.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:14 AM
Oct 3

i want them on the front page of the nyt at some point. when he dies i want a public report of a thorough autopsy.

BOSSHOG

(40,232 posts)
23. The best medicine I need is your vote
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:36 AM
Oct 3

Keep me out of jail, where many hatefully say I belong, and I’ll be fine. My medical record will bore you like you’ve never been bored before.

Bev54

(11,935 posts)
70. At this point who the hell cares, we know he is not rich, we are more interested in his crimes
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:28 AM
Oct 3

and they know it, this is a distraction.

Freethinker65

(11,160 posts)
32. Trump's mental and physical decline far surpassed Biden's
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:45 AM
Oct 3

NY Times and others didn't give a damn. Same with releasing his taxes.Trump promises things "soon" or in "two weeks" for things everyone knows will never happen and the media gives him a pass. Art of the perpetual delay.

Generic Brad

(14,374 posts)
37. He'll get right on that very soon
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:54 AM
Oct 3

But first he has to do Infrastructure Week followed by the unveiling of his health care plan. Very soon. Any day now.

hatrack

(61,176 posts)
38. Oh, so nine years in and the NYT is "calling for" his medical records . . .
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 07:55 AM
Oct 3

Another rhetorical popcorn fart from the Gray-Faced Lady.

Silent Type

(7,305 posts)
46. Is that crazy looking doctor from 2016 still alive. He wrote the letter that said trump is superman or something.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:18 AM
Oct 3

keep_left

(2,506 posts)
86. No, he's deceased. Trump's goons also busted into his practice...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:30 PM
Oct 3

...one day and took all of Trump's medical records. I guess Trump felt there was something damning in them, which there probably was.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/14/nyregion/harold-bornstein-dead.html

dlk

(12,466 posts)
53. Why the rush asking for Trump's medical records at this late stage?
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:41 AM
Oct 3

The NYT is seriously behind the curve. They wasted no time, however, beating the drum about President Biden’s months ago.

Looks like far too little, far too late.

BattleRow

(1,255 posts)
61. Surreptitiously laying groundwork for
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:53 AM
Oct 3

his defense over Jack Smith revelations ..well..he wasn't in control of his faculties on Jan.6. yada yada yada yada.

ProudMNDemocrat

(19,159 posts)
62. His ENORMOUS EGO and his VANITY will not allow hiim.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 08:56 AM
Oct 3

Which is why tRump looks like shit all the time, LITERALLY!!!

The man is ill and we all know it!

ShazzieB

(18,924 posts)
68. He'll never release his medical records, but I still think it's good that this is happening.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:25 AM
Oct 3

I like that the NYT is drawing attention to his failing health, because it's bound to make him uncomfortable. Anything that adds to his stress is a good thing, afaic.

Torchlight

(4,251 posts)
71. Trump Campaign Motto:
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:30 AM
Oct 3

"It's unfair holding us to the same standards we demand of everyone else (Shhh, sit, Lindsey, sit. Good boy) "

usonian

(14,525 posts)
75. Look on a potential bright side to the request.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 09:43 AM
Oct 3

The request exposes the fact that Trump is close to completely breaking down, and the oligarchs' plan was get Vance in office ASAP.

Better yet, by exposing the plan, get a family feud going in the GOP ranks.

A little Caesar and Brutus play.
Will little Caesar bequeath the citizenry his golf courses and resorts?

(Admins! This is not a conspiracy theory. I'd give the plan even odds of happening within 4 years. )

demosincebirth

(12,740 posts)
84. Internet hackers seem to be able to hack into any system any where any time. Why don' t they do democracy favor?
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 11:44 AM
Oct 3

Rob H.

(5,587 posts)
87. "We are a nation that just recently heard that Saudi Arabia and Russia
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:47 PM
Oct 3

will, will ree-pee-deu...aahhhh," should've been enough to make them call on Orange Foolius to release them months ago.

applegrove

(123,585 posts)
88. Vance too. He may suffer from congenital heart condition as Elizabeth Taylor
Fri Oct 4, 2024, 12:31 AM
Oct 4

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did her whole life. Those people with the naturally occurring double eyelashes can suffer from it. Here is the link:

https://healthland.time.com/2011/03/26/elizabeth-taylors-killer-beauty/

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