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Jack Smith: Trump told advisors BEFORE election that he would claim victory BEFORE all votes were counted (Original Post) kpete Oct 3 OP
We saw that in real time. That's what Trump did. yardwork Oct 3 #1
Of course he did. North Shore Chicago Oct 3 #2
Roger Stone's instructions displacedvermoter Oct 3 #3
Bannon as well. Pinback Oct 3 #7
Why isn't Roger Stone in prison? calimary Oct 3 #8
I am repeating but Roger Stone gives me the creeps. twodogsbarking Oct 3 #10
He was pardoned by Trump. Mr.Bill Oct 3 #11
Actually leftieNanner Oct 3 #14
Okay that makes sense. Mr.Bill Oct 3 #15
I wonder if he can vote. leftieNanner Oct 3 #16
Free pass? How convenient. calimary Oct 3 #17
He's so repulsive Betty Boom Oct 3 #18
"Damn, I've lost my monocle 🧐 ..." rubbersole Oct 3 #24
😂 Betty Boom Oct 3 #28
Yep, saying he will win NOW and doesn't even need votes Attilatheblond Oct 3 #19
Indeed. North Shore Chicago Oct 4 #33
Trump would've been in prison since 2021 if not for... polichick Oct 3 #4
Mueller Report bpj62 Oct 3 #22
Fingers crossed that Harris's rule-of-law stance makes the needed difference. polichick Oct 3 #30
Are you suggesting that Garland failed to protect the Constitution? dem4decades Oct 3 #31
A convicted fraudster who stole classified documents and led a coup... polichick Oct 3 #32
In 2024, he's going to stand in front of a "President Elect" sign... NCDem47 Oct 3 #5
My guess is DENVERPOPS Oct 3 #9
"Fake it until you make it" is valid in only one pursuit and it isn't politics or popularity sanatanadharma Oct 3 #21
We knew that. Catchup (not ketchup) rest-o-world. GreenWave Oct 3 #6
Right, Im not seeing much new in Smith filing uponit7771 Oct 4 #34
That isn't news dsc Oct 3 #12
It wasn't a secret...he was saying it publically Prairie Gates Oct 3 #13
Three things Roy Cohn drummed into the marmalade shartcannon: Brother Buzz Oct 3 #20
Con Man, mob boss, convicted FELON. Evolve Dammit Oct 3 #23
Douche, dummy, deadbeat JoseBalow Oct 3 #29
Hey, donnie... rubbersole Oct 3 #25
Yes he Sure Did... That EVIL POS Needs to Go Down! Cha Oct 3 #26
We need to figure out a way to count the votes election night. jimfields33 Oct 3 #27

yardwork

(64,707 posts)
1. We saw that in real time. That's what Trump did.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 3

He declared victory on election evening and by the next morning he was claiming the election was stolen.

He never conceded. He and Melania weee not in DC to welcome the Bidens to the White House.

Pinback

(12,908 posts)
7. Bannon as well.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:09 PM
Oct 3
The Halloween 2020 meeting in which Steve Bannon explained that Donald Trump planned to declare victory on election night, regardless of the actual results, was not supposed to be a big deal. The gathering was intended for Bannon to help associates of his patron, exiled Chinese mogul Guo Wengui, plan election night coverage on GTV News, one of Guo’s media companies.

But Bannon wanted to talk. He explained repeatedly that Trump would announce early that he had won and would suggest that any apparent Biden victory had resulted from fraud. “He’s just gonna go in—remember, this is just with like 20 percent of the vote counted, Trump’s just gonna walk in and go, ‘I’m the winner,'” Bannon said.

Source:
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/08/full-transcript-of-leaked-steve-bannon-tape-donald-trump-2020-election/

calimary

(84,575 posts)
8. Why isn't Roger Stone in prison?
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:13 PM
Oct 3

That bastard is on my personal “I’ll-Hate-You-Til-I-Die” list. From the moment I first learned about him.

Mr.Bill

(24,854 posts)
11. He was pardoned by Trump.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:16 PM
Oct 3

I've also noticed he is keeping a very low profile during this election.

leftieNanner

(15,739 posts)
14. Actually
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:27 PM
Oct 3

He wasn't pardoned, TSF commuted his sentence.

So, officially, Stone is still a felon.

Mr.Bill

(24,854 posts)
15. Okay that makes sense.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:32 PM
Oct 3

I plead Senior Moment for being forgetful. Thanks for the correction. And actually, that makes a lot of sense because he may be prohibited from consorting with other felons.

calimary

(84,575 posts)
17. Free pass? How convenient.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:47 PM
Oct 3

I can only guess Satan won’t have such a nice freebie for him when he’s ushered onto The Great Down-Escalator In The Sky.

Betty Boom

(223 posts)
18. He's so repulsive
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:50 PM
Oct 3

He looks exactly what you imagine old men in the swing lifestyle look like. Blech.

Attilatheblond

(4,516 posts)
19. Yep, saying he will win NOW and doesn't even need votes
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:52 PM
Oct 3

If that isn't announcing the plan to steal, what is?

polichick

(37,626 posts)
4. Trump would've been in prison since 2021 if not for...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 10:20 AM
Oct 3

a conflicted attorney general and complicit high court.

Without the January 6th Committee telling everyone what happened, it’s not likely Trump would have been charged. AGs from both parties buried the Mueller Report - thank goodness Jan 6th Committee members and those who testified were all over tv and social media!

bpj62

(1,032 posts)
22. Mueller Report
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 01:02 PM
Oct 3

I have come to believe that there is something so radioactive in that report because I cannot think of any other reason for never releasing the full unredacted report. Maybe Harris's AG will release it because it really needs to see the light of day.

polichick

(37,626 posts)
32. A convicted fraudster who stole classified documents and led a coup...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 04:00 PM
Oct 3

…has been allowed the freedom to run for president. A lot of people who swore to uphold the Constitution were in no great rush to do so. Thankfully, the January 6th Committee did not put norms, institutions, entrenched power structures, or any other bullshit over the truth.

NCDem47

(2,589 posts)
5. In 2024, he's going to stand in front of a "President Elect" sign...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 10:30 AM
Oct 3

Before West Coast polls even close. Let's see what media bites and plays along.

Fake it util you make it. Always his M.O.

DENVERPOPS

(10,127 posts)
9. My guess is
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:14 PM
Oct 3

that the media is already planning on playing along with it......95+% of all media in the U.S. are Republican operated/owned by Uber rich Republicans and their Corporations.....

They all have as much at stake as any other Republican Groups in winning this election, at all costs. By hook or by crook.
The old Republican Adage: The means justifies the end result...........

sanatanadharma

(4,074 posts)
21. "Fake it until you make it" is valid in only one pursuit and it isn't politics or popularity
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:59 PM
Oct 3

"Fake it until you make it" is valid only for seeking to be a Saint

Brother Buzz

(38,000 posts)
20. Three things Roy Cohn drummed into the marmalade shartcannon:
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 12:57 PM
Oct 3

Cohn told his asshole protege there are three rules he needs to abide by. Number one: attack, attack, attack. Number two: admit nothing and deny everything. And rule number three: no matter what happens, you claim victory and never admit defeat.

rubbersole

(8,687 posts)
25. Hey, donnie...
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 01:11 PM
Oct 3

...claim victory from your hidey-hole in Venezuela. Gonna miss you like a good rash.

jimfields33

(19,280 posts)
27. We need to figure out a way to count the votes election night.
Thu Oct 3, 2024, 01:17 PM
Oct 3

Otherwise, voters will always be suspicious of the results. That’s the solution to stop the madness.

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