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Qutzupalotl

(15,164 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 11:55 AM Oct 20

Smith's evidence includes proof of criminal intent




So the first 3 volumes of Smith's evidence against Trump are released. About 70% still sealed, but, pretty damning stuff, which is all either their own messages, or testimony from Republican staff under oath:

A) A member of Trump's team directly attempted get a Pence aide to hand Mike Pence documents their team knew was fake, uncertified, and lacked chain of custody.

B) They have iMessages confirming they were trying to deliver the unsealed fake documents to Pence.

C) They have emails confirming this was planned *in advance* and that they wanted Grassley to stand in if Pence recused.

D) In their own "war game" scenarios, they concede that if the election is processed fairly, then Biden wins.

E) They had a memorandum prepared on this matter as far back as November 18th which is 1 month *BEFORE* any of the "alternative electors had made their claims proving that it was pre-meditated.

F) They knew, well in advance, and admitted in testimony and email, that the VP did not have this power, and that the Supreme Court would not hold up this case, proving they knew it was illegal.

(Although they thought maybe Clarence Thomas would side with them..)

G) Trump called the Michigan speaker, on an unofficial line marked "Spam Risk Egypt" to discuss fraud allegations. Proving he tried to cover his tracks, and these were not protected "official acts"

H) At the time Trump did not even feel they had grounds to file a lawsuit in Michigan.

J) 5 of the "Fake Electorate" packages that Trump's team had tried to hand over to Pence, used the exact same template for vacancy filling pages.

These pages do not normally have a standard across states, showing coordination. But the source proof is still under seal.

So Trump and his team *in their own words*:

-Knew they lost
-Knew it was not legal for Pence to over turn
-Knew the states did not have fraud issues
-Researched "alternative electors" a month in advanced of those claims
-Knew the documents were unofficial
-Took part in the transfer process
-And attempted to pass off forged documents directly to the VP
-Because of a pre-meditated plan to steal the election.


The first volumes represent 1889 pages of evidence, 70% still under seal.

This is just from the 30% unsealed, and there are more volumes to go.

The case could not be more clear.

And as a reminder, Trump's team refused to dispute the authenticity of any of this evidence, they only ask for it to be delayed as it would "hurt their client" during the election.

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Orrex

(64,366 posts)
9. The NYT will do a long expose on Harris' late fee at Blockbuster in 1998.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:47 PM
Oct 20

"How can we trust her with our nation's economy when she can't even return a copy of Titanic on time?"

Qutzupalotl

(15,164 posts)
13. Yes. That certainly sounds like he knew and was in on the plan.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:26 PM
Oct 20

I bolded that line to emphasize his involvement, so Iowa DUers can discuss and use this evidence against him.

GB_RN

(3,240 posts)
8. My Question Is...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:45 PM
Oct 20

Why hasn’t Chucklehead grASSLey been charged with something related to this? The sonofabitch even said he was planning on running the show that day, as he didn’t expect Pence to be there.

nature-lover

(1,720 posts)
12. Hope his time is coming along with the others still in office!
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:05 PM
Oct 20

Allred is using the Jan 6. planning efforts against Cruz in the senate race.

BadGimp

(4,073 posts)
14. This is an incredible info and knowledge dump imo.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:29 PM
Oct 20

It reads like a major political thriller movie script/plot.

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