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LonePirate

(13,918 posts)
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 01:53 PM Oct 20

Gut Check - How confident are you about our chances in November?

Ten days ago, I posted a thread asking for everyone's gut check on how they feel about our chances in November. With a little over two weeks to go, how do you feel about things now?


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Very confident we will win
71 (43%)
Somewhat confident we will win
52 (32%)
Not sure what to think
24 (15%)
Not very confident as things seem bad
12 (7%)
No confidence whatsoever as things look bleak
5 (3%)
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Gut Check - How confident are you about our chances in November? (Original Post) LonePirate Oct 20 OP
The Harris campaign has to weather the storm of GOP attack ads andym Oct 20 #1
Being negative nelly - I think we get the votes & he gets an insurrection that will be unimaginable & steals the office. lark Oct 20 #2
Somewhat confident, but less so than 10 days ago Polybius Oct 20 #3
How confident can one be of a coin flip? WarGamer Oct 20 #4
I think that would fall into the "Not sure what to think" category Polybius Oct 20 #6
I don't like seeing national polling under a 2% lead... WarGamer Oct 20 #10
The TIPP poll is concerning me. Self Esteem Oct 20 #14
Can go either way... the side that works harder wins. WarGamer Oct 20 #19
It can go the other way but Harris has worked way harder the last two weeks... Self Esteem Oct 20 #20
I meant the hard work on the ground... WarGamer Oct 20 #21
Maybe. I think Democrats out-did Trump there in 2016 and lost. Self Esteem Oct 20 #22
I'm a pessimist LostOne4Ever Oct 20 #5
So am I iemanja Oct 20 #7
It's complicated: unblock Oct 20 #8
I have to admit I'm way more confident than i was when Biden was the candidate, CrispyQ Oct 20 #9
This is the essential weakness of our "representative democracy" dwayneb Oct 21 #36
Stop Abstractartist Oct 20 #11
There's more energy in the Harris campaign like Obama's campaign ! kimbutgar Oct 20 #12
Less confident than a week ago. Self Esteem Oct 20 #13
Hate to agree Cosmocat Oct 21 #42
Somewhat confident! But, I was somewhat confident in 2016. So, there is a fear factor. nt JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 20 #15
She has been elected before. ramedy Oct 20 #16
I've gone through my depressed view and am now very confident we will win. That Arnold Palmer schlong was what just CTyankee Oct 20 #17
Harris/Walz - 75% of the Vote verargert Oct 20 #18
Very confident mvd Oct 20 #23
The EC, the capricious stupidity and ignorance of the voters... J_William_Ryan Oct 20 #24
Somewhat confident. Elessar Zappa Oct 20 #25
Very confident - important not to buy into the fake polls/big lie bullshit. polichick Oct 20 #26
I don't think many polls are counting the newly registered voters as likely voters, Qutzupalotl Oct 20 #27
Very confident because I've had it with the gloomer/doomers - nt TBF Oct 20 #28
How about those of us like myself who are in the middle? Polybius Oct 20 #32
I can't tell anyone what to think. TBF Oct 21 #38
By "in the middle" I didn't mean it like that Polybius Oct 21 #39
Ah, I see. Thanks for clarification and I agree with that. nt TBF Oct 21 #41
In my mind, the odds are 50-50, misogyny and racism are a very powerful force in this country, but I'm still optimistic Walleye Oct 20 #29
I am upbeat and confident DEM1955 Oct 20 #30
Each passing day, I am more and more confident that Kamala will prevail! nt CaliforniaPeggy Oct 20 #31
VP Harris will definitely win the popular vote. roamer65 Oct 20 #33
Somewhat confident, NotAPuppet Oct 21 #34
Very confident jfz9580m Oct 21 #35
Wasn't an option for me. Happy Hoosier Oct 21 #37
Interesting results Polybius Oct 21 #40
Every time I look at polling and analysis, I come to a different conclusion Amishman Oct 21 #43
It's been 10 days Polybius Oct 30 #44
Thank you! I will create one now. LonePirate Oct 30 #45

andym

(5,723 posts)
1. The Harris campaign has to weather the storm of GOP attack ads
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:01 PM
Oct 20

which are running frequently in the swing states and on social media. These likely are causing the polls to tighten. That's really the last hurdle as Trump himself is not doing much to attract voters. The GOP attack ads are their main strategy. Trump is not going to provide Kamala with an opportunity to compare the two candidates directly in a debate or interview format where both participate, because that's the best way she can overcome the barrage of negative ads.
A rephrasing of HL Mencken' famous quote applies: "no one ever lost an election underestimating the intelligence of the American voter."
That said, I think Harris should win, but it may be close again.

lark

(24,339 posts)
2. Being negative nelly - I think we get the votes & he gets an insurrection that will be unimaginable & steals the office.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:03 PM
Oct 20

I do not trust this fascist majority supreme court to do the right thing and stop this.

OTOH - I think we could win so decisively, despite all these rotten polls being R's wet dreams, that the courts don't back the traitor.

Polybius

(18,360 posts)
6. I think that would fall into the "Not sure what to think" category
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:15 PM
Oct 20

Myself, I'm somewhat confident of a Harris victory, especially with Trump having a very bad last few days.

WarGamer

(15,749 posts)
10. I don't like seeing national polling under a 2% lead...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:21 PM
Oct 20

But I see small but significant leads in the Blue Wall... I'd say I'm cautiously optimistic.

GOTV wins the day.

Self Esteem

(1,776 posts)
14. The TIPP poll is concerning me.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:54 PM
Oct 20

It was +4 Harris earlier this week and it's now +2 Trump.

I don't think it's really shifted six-points in a few days but I think it can indicate momentum and if Trump has the momentum in the final two weeks of the election, it's very possible he wins.

Self Esteem

(1,776 posts)
20. It can go the other way but Harris has worked way harder the last two weeks...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:10 PM
Oct 20

And polling is not indicating that her work is helping.

WarGamer

(15,749 posts)
21. I meant the hard work on the ground...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:15 PM
Oct 20

Knocking doors, following up on the voter lists... rides to the polls, picking up ballots at homes (where legal)... stuff like that

LostOne4Ever

(9,603 posts)
5. I'm a pessimist
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:11 PM
Oct 20

I’m always either proven right or pleasantly surprised.

I am PRAYING to be pleasantly surprised this time. Please any benevolent god(s) who may exist, and be listening to an anvowed agnostic like me, please let/help Harris win.

PLEASE!

unblock

(54,242 posts)
8. It's complicated:
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:18 PM
Oct 20

98% confident we will win the popular vote
85% confident we will win the electoral college vote (as determined by actual voters)
60% confident we will win after various Republican efforts to steal it.

CrispyQ

(38,585 posts)
9. I have to admit I'm way more confident than i was when Biden was the candidate,
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:19 PM
Oct 20

& I say that as someone who defended him in the race to the end.

It's maddening the highest office of the land is decided by a few hayseeds in swing states. If they get the EC, that will be the third time in 24 years that the dems won the popular vote but lost the race. That's 24 years of first time voters experiencing this aspect of our "democracy."

dwayneb

(902 posts)
36. This is the essential weakness of our "representative democracy"
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:42 AM
Oct 21

The electoral college, gerrymandering of the House, and 2 Senators per State are all designed to allow a radical minority in sparsely populated areas to control all of us. Top that off with a Supreme Court with lifetime appointments and you have the perfect storm.

Abstractartist

(166 posts)
11. Stop
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:27 PM
Oct 20

Gloom and doom internal poll are not a smart way to help.

It triggers stress. Why not ask if you are voting early, by mail or in person. Will you take your parents to the polls. How about.. How many on DU have kids voting in college and have you checked their status, asked if they understand the ballot and down ballot questions….

kimbutgar

(23,607 posts)
12. There's more energy in the Harris campaign like Obama's campaign !
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:35 PM
Oct 20

People who have some sense of intelligence know that the orange turd is not a good choice.

Self Esteem

(1,776 posts)
13. Less confident than a week ago.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:51 PM
Oct 20

Still confident Harris pulls this out but I'll be real: it's close and momentum does not appear to be on her side.

Cosmocat

(15,053 posts)
42. Hate to agree
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 02:01 PM
Oct 21

They Rs know how to make things ugly to win.

The positive vibes when K claimed the nomination and all the inspiration from her and Walz are long gone under a relentless barrage of bullshit - OPEN BORDERS, THE ECONOMY, CRIME ... They all get on the same page and meld reality to what they want it to be.

WE see through it clearly, but so many of neighbors, friends and family don't ...

ramedy

(183 posts)
16. She has been elected before.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 02:58 PM
Oct 20

FFS, do people here really believe that trump has GAINED voters? Has become more popular? He lost to Biden and Harris by 7 million votes. Please tell me what he has done to convince more people to vote for him? MAGAs do not constitute a majority.

The Blue tsunami is coming. Women and POC and Independent voters will make a huge difference this time.

Don’t let them convince you otherwise.

CTyankee

(65,279 posts)
17. I've gone through my depressed view and am now very confident we will win. That Arnold Palmer schlong was what just
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:00 PM
Oct 20

sealed the deal for me. He's never been crazier and getting worse each day of the campaign. OTOH, look at Kamala! She looks so fresh and healthy and ready to take on the world!

mvd

(65,530 posts)
23. Very confident
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:19 PM
Oct 20

But scared at the same time. Any chance of us winning that is not 100% scares me.

J_William_Ryan

(2,264 posts)
24. The EC, the capricious stupidity and ignorance of the voters...
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:32 PM
Oct 20

Haven’t known what to think since 2015.

Don’t know what to think of a Republican party – and likely most of the country – having gone insane, that the likes of Trump would even be considered for any public office.

This is madness.

Elessar Zappa

(16,077 posts)
25. Somewhat confident.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:33 PM
Oct 20

The polls worry me but anecdotally, I’m seeing much less support for Trump in my area than in 2016 or 2020.

Qutzupalotl

(15,161 posts)
27. I don't think many polls are counting the newly registered voters as likely voters,
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:47 PM
Oct 20

whereas in reality, they are among the most highly motivated, especially from Dobbs. Taylor Swift's endorsement alone netted hundreds of thousands of new voters, which could be decisive. So I think Harris is doing better than the poll averages reflect.

Polybius

(18,360 posts)
32. How about those of us like myself who are in the middle?
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 09:31 PM
Oct 20

I think Harris wins in a very close race.

TBF

(34,748 posts)
38. I can't tell anyone what to think.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 09:19 AM
Oct 21

I can only give my opinion.

I don't think anyone is really "in the middle" re Trump. I think you either love or hate that guy. YMMV.

Polybius

(18,360 posts)
39. By "in the middle" I didn't mean it like that
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 12:05 PM
Oct 21

I meant that I'm not a "gloom & doomer" or "very confident and not at all worried." I'm in the middle of those two positions. I think we'll win a close race.

Walleye

(36,393 posts)
29. In my mind, the odds are 50-50, misogyny and racism are a very powerful force in this country, but I'm still optimistic
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:53 PM
Oct 20

DEM1955

(96 posts)
30. I am upbeat and confident
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 03:56 PM
Oct 20

when it comes right down to it, voters will choose Kamala.

No need to doom and gloom, we got this!!! We will flip red states
in a surprise outcome this November, you will see. Trump doesn't
really have the support he looks to have, all smoke and mirrors.

roamer65

(37,230 posts)
33. VP Harris will definitely win the popular vote.
Sun Oct 20, 2024, 10:05 PM
Oct 20

But the EC has me worried.

I am hoping we don’t see a repeat of 1876, 1888, 2000 and 2016. The country cannot handle another broken election.

NotAPuppet

(327 posts)
34. Somewhat confident,
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:13 AM
Oct 21

only because 2016 happened, and I never in a million years thought that Trump would win. My confidence level has taken a huge hit. Let's face it, just the fact that Trump managed to become the GOP's presidential nominee is mind blowing and scary. Considering that Republicans would do anything to get Trump elected without any scruples, makes me even more hesitant to be fully confident.

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
35. Very confident
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:28 AM
Oct 21


Well it should be “he” but regardless.. also rapist, indicted felon, insurrectionist etc. It is not 2016. It’s several years into the overturning of Roe v Wade. Also that incel Vance is loathed by women.

Finally, polls have been getting it wrong in election after election the world over this year. Not sure why, but their quality seems to have degraded even sans active malice.

Happy Hoosier

(8,548 posts)
37. Wasn't an option for me.
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 07:43 AM
Oct 21

I'm not super confident, or even a little confident. I'd call myself "cautiously optimistic." But my faith in the electorate is on very shakey ground. The fact that this election is even close is mind-blowing, and I don;t have much faith in about half the country. We need to VOTE, VOTE, VOTE!

Amishman

(5,832 posts)
43. Every time I look at polling and analysis, I come to a different conclusion
Mon Oct 21, 2024, 02:16 PM
Oct 21

With two exceptions.

No matter how much I look for a new silver lining, my home state (PA) make me very very nervous.

However, GA data - especially early voting - encourages me.

As of this morning, I'm more optimistic about GA than PA.

Polybius

(18,360 posts)
44. It's been 10 days
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 11:31 AM
Oct 30

Can you repost another final poll? I know you did one on the 10th and 20th, so it's only fitting that you do one on the 30th.

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