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Gaugamela

(2,748 posts)
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:20 PM Oct 2024

Military Times: Army ordered to release records on Trump's Arlington cemetery visit

A federal judge has ordered Army officials to release their records by the end of this week regarding President Donald Trump’s controversial visit to Arlington National Cemetery this summer.

Senior Judge Paul Friedman of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia on Tuesday granted the release request as part of a lawsuit brought by American Oversight, a non-partisan, nonprofit group dedicated to getting the government to release records.

The group sued for the records to be made public following a Freedom of Information Act request.

“With the election just two weeks away, the American people have a clear and compelling interest in knowing how the government responded to an alleged incident involving a major presidential candidate who has a history of politicizing the military,” Chioma Chukwu, the group’s interim executive director, said in a statement following the order.

https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2024/10/22/army-ordered-to-release-records-on-trumps-arlington-cemetery-visit/
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Military Times: Army ordered to release records on Trump's Arlington cemetery visit (Original Post) Gaugamela Oct 2024 OP
KnR! AKwannabe Oct 2024 #1
Still waiting for their exonerating video central scrutinizer Oct 2024 #2
And Melania's immigration papers! SunSeeker Oct 2024 #38
Will some court stop this? bluestarone Oct 2024 #3
IANAL nor do I play one on the internet, but my thoughts are as follows. ShazzieB Oct 2024 #22
TY for this, ShazzieB... and, American Oversight! Cha Oct 2024 #25
Will the Army comply or Do they have to ask permission from the Felon? MagickMuffin Oct 2024 #4
they should comply. barbtries Oct 2024 #15
Somone, somewhere BigMin28 Oct 2024 #5
I still wished a Marine had kicked Steven Cheung's displacedvermoter Oct 2024 #6
I can easily imagine that psycho jerkhole in a Nazi uniform gleefully shooting babies. OMGWTF Oct 2024 #9
Or eating them displacedvermoter Oct 2024 #12
I'll bet he's a joy to be around. Probatim Oct 2024 #14
And lots of methane The Madcap Oct 2024 #21
North Korean uniform Aviation Pro Oct 2024 #20
I'm thinking that Marine...... MyOwnPeace Oct 2024 #31
Oh, damn, the army is going to have to come clean about the incidence. republianmushroom Oct 2024 #7
I guess now ScratchCat Oct 2024 #8
That's not my read on it Mad_Machine76 Oct 2024 #10
He states his focus ScratchCat Oct 2024 #11
I see this as clearing up 2 bad situations............. MyOwnPeace Oct 2024 #33
there may be video that shows the incident that could be very bad LymphocyteLover Oct 2024 #17
No. ShazzieB Oct 2024 #24
Confirmation that the G.O.P. felon lied about it BoRaGard Oct 2024 #30
The employee name might still be shielded. sl8 Oct 2024 #34
military times erred greatly in that article wolfie001 Oct 2024 #13
K & R malaise Oct 2024 #16
October surprise. Hateful .. Evil ... Trump. He is the anti-Christ Trueblue1968 Oct 2024 #18
October Surprise? More like, to be released.... maxsolomon Oct 2024 #28
hopefully the person not wanting to be et tu Oct 2024 #19
I'm OVERJOYED to see that this outrageous example of tsf's disrespect... 70sEraVet Oct 2024 #23
Finally! Lulu KC Oct 2024 #26
K&R ffr Oct 2024 #27
k and r BoRaGard Oct 2024 #29
HE. IS. NOT. THE. PRESIDENT. niyad Oct 2024 #32
No, and he's a fascist pig who ought to have that Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2024 #35
Yes, we do, as a mark of respect. However, TRAITOR** and company do it niyad Oct 2024 #36
It would be propaganda, not respect, to use a Dark n Stormy Knight Oct 2024 #37

ShazzieB

(19,707 posts)
22. IANAL nor do I play one on the internet, but my thoughts are as follows.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 04:41 PM
Oct 2024

IF I am not mistaken, the Army could appeal if they chose to, but otherwise the information will have to be released.

The article concludes with the following:

Army officials did not provide an immediate timeline of how the information may be released to the public.

Please note that this does not mention any plans to appeal, which leads me to suspect that they aren't going to do so.

The group who sued made a point of how important it is for this info to be made public before the election, and I am sure they would forcefully contest any delay.

If anyone who is an actual lawyer is reading this, please feel free to correct as needed.

Cha

(308,408 posts)
25. TY for this, ShazzieB... and, American Oversight!
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 05:00 PM
Oct 2024
American Oversight, a non-partisan, nonprofit group dedicated to getting the government to release records

MagickMuffin

(17,451 posts)
4. Will the Army comply or Do they have to ask permission from the Felon?
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:27 PM
Oct 2024


It would seem to me it should’ve been released immediately after the “event” but for some unknown reason the Army dropped the case.


I can’t wait for the release!


barbtries

(30,235 posts)
15. they should comply.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:56 PM
Oct 2024

TCFSF is a private citizen at this point, despite what he and his cults say.

BigMin28

(1,618 posts)
5. Somone, somewhere
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 12:28 PM
Oct 2024

Is always willing to offer cover for tsf. No matter their motivation, it still brings us to the same sorry conclusion.

Probatim

(3,102 posts)
14. I'll bet he's a joy to be around.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:51 PM
Oct 2024

Locking him in a room with Alex Jones would make for some interesting entertainment.

MyOwnPeace

(17,289 posts)
31. I'm thinking that Marine......
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:34 PM
Oct 2024

would be on the IR (injured reserve) list for a WHOLE LONG TIME trying to kick THAT pile of shit around!

ScratchCat

(2,613 posts)
8. I guess now
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:11 PM
Oct 2024

The name of the cemetery employee who did not want to press charges fearing reprisal from cult members will have his/her name publicly released so that cult members can harass him/her.

What exactly are people expecting to learn that we didn't already know? It doesn't look like the petitioners intentions are to use it against Trump and his campaign, but the Military.

Mad_Machine76

(24,838 posts)
10. That's not my read on it
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:18 PM
Oct 2024

The group spokesman seems to be critical of Trump politicizing the military, which seems like it is a negative for him. Unless I'm missing something?

ScratchCat

(2,613 posts)
11. He states his focus
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 01:20 PM
Oct 2024

Is how the Military responded, not what Trump and his campaign actually did. It sounds like he is being critical of the Military because they should have known better and not allowed the photo op/disrespect.

MyOwnPeace

(17,289 posts)
33. I see this as clearing up 2 bad situations.............
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 08:50 PM
Oct 2024

1. It will answer what the initial F-up was as initiated by the F-up King himself. He (and his 'followers') plowed their way into the 'sacred grounds' and shat all over the place for their own gratification.
2. Clearing up what the 'military' response was - and how they handled it. THIS is something we REALLY need to know and understand what with what's going to be happening in the next few weeks/months!

tRump is a sick, degenerative pig that needs to be called out for EVERY disgusting action that he takes - he has NO regard or respect for ANY decorum or honor earned by anybody - or deserved by ALL AMERICANS - EVERYTHING is for HIMSELF!

ShazzieB

(19,707 posts)
24. No.
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 04:45 PM
Oct 2024

This report can and shuld be released with her name and any other identifying info redacted.

BoRaGard

(4,374 posts)
30. Confirmation that the G.O.P. felon lied about it
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:26 PM
Oct 2024

We know what happened. And we know that he and his cronies have been lying about it ever since.

This will settle the hash, so to speak, unmask him as a liar once again and again and again.

BEARING FALSE WITNESS is a sin. Repubes don't give a shit about that.

sl8

(16,286 posts)
34. The employee name might still be shielded.
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 08:28 AM
Oct 2024
Tuesday’s court order calls for Army officials to make public “responsive, non-exempt records,” which could allow service officials to continue shielding the identity of the employee who claimed to have been assaulted.

et tu

(2,013 posts)
19. hopefully the person not wanting to be
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 02:44 PM
Oct 2024

named will have military protection.
the public needs to know and yes
perhaps a video, and not ai generated
by cf 45~

70sEraVet

(4,387 posts)
23. I'm OVERJOYED to see that this outrageous example of tsf's disrespect...
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 04:42 PM
Oct 2024

for our men and women in uniform will be in the news again!
I tried over and over again to get the American Legion's national leadership to issue a statement condemning his and his brownshirt-goons' actions at Arlington. But they're either Trumpers themselves, or they're too worried about losing members.
And, yeah, I'm still pissed about the whole thing.

ffr

(23,152 posts)
27. K&R
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 05:24 PM
Oct 2024

Giving my thumb's up ...his ass!!!

Sounds like the fat orange anus is fading. The Grim Reaper may be calling his name.

BoRaGard

(4,374 posts)
29. k and r
Tue Oct 22, 2024, 06:24 PM
Oct 2024

Republicans need to show respect to America's Armed Forces.

The repubes are a disgrace: no honor.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,270 posts)
35. No, and he's a fascist pig who ought to have that
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 11:00 AM
Oct 2024

as his title. He ought to be referred to & introduced as Fascist Pig Trump.

However, don't we commonly call previous presidents President ______? I mean, Obama is still called President Obama, Bill Clinton is introduced as President Clinton, etc.

niyad

(122,587 posts)
36. Yes, we do, as a mark of respect. However, TRAITOR** and company do it
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 11:33 AM
Oct 2024

to instill in his cultists the idea that he IS the president. And he does not merit that respect.

One properly writes "former president".

By the way, please do not insult our porcine relatives. The orange (or whatever colour gop he slathers on) creature is a wannabe fascist dictator.

Dark n Stormy Knight

(10,270 posts)
37. It would be propaganda, not respect, to use a
Wed Oct 23, 2024, 11:57 AM
Oct 2024

title to instill the idea that anyone IS the president who isn't the president.

But agree in that the MAGA King does not merit any respect whatsoever.

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