On the Washington Post and LA Times -- from The Guardian

[erronis]

Just received this. I've been contributing to their excellent work for several years. I will try to do a bit more.

Betsy Reed
Editor, Guardian US

Editor

Dear Guardian reader,

In the past 72 hours, two of America’s largest newspapers have declined to endorse a candidate for president in this election. The LA Times and the Washington Post both have a tradition of issuing editorial endorsements, but in this most consequential of contests for our country, they have chosen to sit on the sidelines of democracy and not alienate any candidate.

Something these two papers have in common? They both have billionaire owners who could face retaliation in a Trump presidency.

It has never been clearer that media ownership matters to democracy. The Guardian is not billionaire-owned; nor do we have shareholders. We are supported by readers and owned by The Scott Trust, which guarantees our editorial independence in perpetuity. Nobody influences our journalism. We are fiercely independent and accountable only to you, our readers.

We need to raise $2m in order to keep up our momentum next year. Your ongoing support has helped us enormously. Are you able to spare anything again today?

The stakes of this election could not be higher. Fearless journalism and an informed public are bedrocks of our democracy, and it is an abdication of our duty as journalists to sit out this election out of self-interest. A Guardian editorial strongly endorsed Kamala Harris for president earlier this week – and we are unafraid of any potential consequences.

Please help protect the truly free press by contributing to the Guardian today.
Make a one-time contribution

Yours,
Betsy Reed
Editor, Guardian US

[Cha]

1. Wow... Well said, Betsy Reed of UK'S Guardian.. Lucky

them in the UK.

Mahalo, erronis

[erronis]

3. Thanks, Cha. The Guardian has a very strong and capable presence in the US

While their main offices are out of the UK, their US reporters and coordinators have been excellent.

I do subscribe to their other non-US feeds (RSS) just to see how they operate world wide.

[Cha]

4. Good on you! Thanks for letting us know.

It's a comfort that some Papers in the World get it.

This had me thinking about Canada, too.. During the bush years I remember they had real news on the CBC.

[LearnedHand]

35. I got that email too

I've been a subscriber for many years now. It's a worthy newspaper to support.

[Cha]

37. Thank You, LearnedHand!

[LearnedHand]

43. 😁

[Cha]

44. 😎

[multigraincracker]

2. If you stand up to a bully, they back down.

Learned that years ago.

[BattleRow]

8. Bullies do not respect cowards.

[calimary]

23. That's what WE ALL need to do. STAND UP to the bully/bullies.

And KEEP doing it!!!

[BattleRow]

24. It has been said that if you don't stand up for something ,you'll lie down for anything.

[calimary]

26. Yep.

I’ve heard a few different versions of that message, BattleRow. I like yours best.

[BattleRow]

29. Thank you!

[Initech]

5. Fuck Patrick Soon-Singh and Jeff Bezos.

If there is a hell, may they rot in it for eternity. And they can take their fucking stupid billions with them.

[malaise]

6. The Guardian has been and remains my main source

for this reason

[KPN]

25. Ditto ... excepting DU of course!

[Bev54]

7. Like I said before, if there was a woman at the helm, she would do what is right

[BattleRow]

9. And once again,I say the only real men are women these days.

[Bev54]

10. That is a good way to put it.

[BattleRow]

11. Thank you.

Sadly,it brings to mind something I heard long ago..paraphrasing here..

"We became the men we could no longer find."

[erronis]

14. There are some men out there that might still match your ideals

Oh, damn. As soon as I wrote that word "ideals" I knew I was lost. We (men) can never be what everyone else wants us to be.

But some of us do try!

[BattleRow]

15. I absolutely agree there are some gentleman who restore faith in humanity.

However,they are an endangered species,and deserve all the TLC and respect they have so justly earned.

[Native]

12. I have had a monthly subscription to The Guardian for quite some time now..

and for years, I've turned to news sources outside of the country to find out what's really going on here. And I think that's depressing as hell.

[pnwmom]

13. Thank you, The Guardian. And I will continue to support your good work! nt

[robleb]

16. As Bob Dylan has said...

"Money doesn't talk, it swears."

[Linda ladeewolf]

17. The Guardian

Is a good paper. They’ve always been my favorite. I just bit it and started donating to them. I don’t take any subscriptions of any kind, and they are kind enough to let you pay when you can. There are so many books and magazines I’d love to have, I usually just buy used copies. I don’t mind them being months old.☺️ it keeps them out of the landfills.

[KPN]

27. Same here. Im probably going to up my donation this year.The Gusrdian really id my go to snd des

deserves every cent I can support it/them with.

[barbtries]

18. they're on my list

to possibly subscribe after canceling the WP today. I will definitely donate as I have done in the past.

[TBF]

19. I already subscribe to the Guardian,

but I'll hop over and make a small donation.

I still have the NYTimes (for games), Guardian, and Haretz.

I canceled the Wash Post this morning.

[Warpy]

20. I can sum it up in one word

ChickenSHITS!

[Hermit-The-Prog]

32. or 2: Chickenshit MAGAts. (maggots in chickenshit?)

[Coexist]

21. I just unsubscribed from the WaPo and that $$ went straight to a Guardian subscription

thank you for that idea

[mainer]

22. I just subscribed to the Guardian AND the Philly Inquirer

I can’t bring myself to cancel my Washington Post subscription because I do support their journalists. But if the Inquirer booms, maybe it will hire some of the Post reporters who will be looking for new jobs.

[Uncle Joe]

28. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread erronis

[Bumbles]

30. I have always gone to The Guardian right after the NYTimes and Washington Post over my first cup of coffee.

Now it's at the top of the list. Thanks for posting this, Erronis.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

31. Not just billionaires; this indicates they are MAGAts, sucking up to their lord.

[womanofthehills]

36. LA Times says it has to do with Gaza

From The Forward- Jewish Independent News

“Did the LA Times decline to endorse Kamala Harris because of her support for Israel?

The call was made by the newspaper’s owner, whose daughter is a vocal supporter of Palestinian rights”

https://forward.com/fast-forward/667840/la-times-harris-editorial-nika-soon-shiong-patrick/

[Kid Berwyn]

33. Thank you, erronis! Just clicked.

Sent them what I can, a small amount, plus a buck for their costs.

[appmanga]

34. The Guardian is the only consistently free online counter to Murdoch outlets...

...Faux News and The New York Post, which are propaganda channels for the Republican Party. Part of the answer of how is it people have been so easily indoctrinated in the MAGA cult is the fact outlets like The New York Times and The Washington Post live behind paywalls. Murdoch is willing to let his propaganda channels be loss leaders for the power it amasses for him. The billionaire that owns The Washington Post cows in fear.

[Emile]

38. Apparently billionaire owners are unpatriotic cowards.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

39. Those two papers should just go ahead and endorse Trump.

If Trump wins, they might gain some favor, some access.

If Trump loses, there will be no repercussion, no vengeance from the Harris administration.

So, Trump is the "safe" endorsement.

[moreland01]

40. I'm not falling for this again.

Has anyone vetted the Guardian's "Scott Trust Board"? Are these the good guys/gals?

theguardian.com/the-scott-trust/2015/jul/26/the-scott-trust-board

[erronis]

42. The proof is usually in the pudding.

This is one quick reference to media biases including The Guardian.
https://www.biasly.com/blog/is-the-guardian-biased/

Of course your own personal mileage may vary based on whether or not you agree on the overall reporting over a reasonable length of time.

[moreland01]

45. Checked out Biasly

Was very surprised to see CNN labeled "Very Liberal" right alongside RawStory, HuffPost and DailyKos. I also wouldn't put The Hill under the label of "Center".

biasly.com/media-bias-chart/

[hunter]

46. Easy enough to look up...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Trust_Limited

This is the official U.K. government listing:

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/06706464/officers

[Martin68]

41. Right on the money.

[hunter]

47. I subscribe to The Guardian. Been reading it now for fifty years or so.

My wife isn't likely to quit her Washington Post subscription. She's a great fan of Alexandra Petri, who did endorse Kamala Harris.

WaPo: It has fallen to me, the humor columnist, to endorse Harris for president

-- snip --

But if I were the paper, I would be a little embarrassed that it has fallen to me, the humor columnist, to make our presidential endorsement. I will spare you the suspense: I am endorsing Kamala Harris for president, because I like elections and want to keep having them.

--more--

https://wapo.st/3UqHWRM

DU discussion:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219611856