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Pototan

(2,222 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:01 AM Oct 2024

Harris Regains 4 Point Lead in ABC News Poll

Turnout is key. Just 2 percentage points divide Harris and Donald Trump among all registered voters, 49-47%. This goes to a slight Harris advantage among likely voters, 51-47%, with some pro-Harris groups showing a bit more propensity to vote.

Compared with earlier this month, Harris has regained a more customary Democratic advantage among Hispanic people and widened her advantage among suburban women, while remaining strong in core groups including Black people. Trump pushes back in rural areas and among non-college white men and runs competitively among younger men.

Eight percent of adults (and 10% of registered voters) say they've already voted (as of early last week); a disproportionately Democratic group, they went 62-33% for Harris.

This poll finds a notable shift in vote preferences among Hispanic people, 12% of likely voters and a potentially important group given the close contest, especially in the battleground states of Arizona and Nevada. Biden won Hispanic people by 33 points in 2020, per the ABC News exit poll, and Harris leads in this group by a similar 30 points now, 64-34% -- compared with 55-43% in early October.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=115083875

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Harris Regains 4 Point Lead in ABC News Poll (Original Post) Pototan Oct 2024 OP
I just read the 7 latest pollls are True Blue American Oct 2024 #1
That isn't true - but this is the best polling news we've seen in weeks FBaggins Oct 2024 #8
They are polling early voters Pototan Oct 2024 #11
Sorry - that isn't true either FBaggins Oct 2024 #13
It's only accurate for that 10% of those who already voted Pototan Oct 2024 #24
Some DUers insist that every poll is paid for by the GOP. TwilightZone Oct 2024 #14
Nah... just the ones we don't like FBaggins Oct 2024 #22
I must have missed the DUers who said that every poll senseandsensibility Oct 2024 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #21
How much mileage did the NEWS get out of the loss of the Hispanic vote baloney? arlyellowdog Oct 2024 #2
Frickin Steve Kornacki just breathlessly reported other polls not favor to her. OrlandoDem2 Oct 2024 #3
I just want to hurl Ghost of Tom Joad Oct 2024 #15
Kornacki Rebl2 Oct 2024 #16
Maybe Carville has some inside info Jersey Devil Oct 2024 #4
I saw him on CNN, he seems to be going off of gut feel and not hard polling data. nt Shermann Oct 2024 #7
but he did mention "good polls" soon Jersey Devil Oct 2024 #9
His bold predictions are making headlines Shermann Oct 2024 #12
I think he probably knew about this one at least. I agree with you. writes3000 Oct 2024 #17
Agreed Pototan Oct 2024 #26
To sum up the polling data... Midnight Writer Oct 2024 #5
This poll Pototan Oct 2024 #10
I HIGHLY doubt the young male vote offsets the female vote edisdead Oct 2024 #18
So many young males have a loser mindset Dem4life1234 Oct 2024 #19
yeah doubt they vote in large numbers jcgoldie Oct 2024 #20
Polls pointless at this point kevink077 Oct 2024 #6
This is a very good poll for Harris Wiz Imp Oct 2024 #23
Likely vs. registered voters hvn_nbr_2 Oct 2024 #25
This poll is not out in 538, RCP, or 270 to win.Strange... kerry-is-my-prez Oct 2024 #28

FBaggins

(27,914 posts)
8. That isn't true - but this is the best polling news we've seen in weeks
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:38 AM
Oct 2024

Siena, Emerson, CNN, and Change Research are not right-leaning (the last one was actually paid for by the party)

Pototan

(2,222 posts)
11. They are polling early voters
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:50 AM
Oct 2024

who make up 10% of all voters and Harris leads this group by 30 points.

I am always skeptical of every poll, favorable or not. But when you poll a segment of people as exit polls, it has to be more accurate.

FBaggins

(27,914 posts)
13. Sorry - that isn't true either
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:35 AM
Oct 2024

Exit polls used to be far more accurate since there was far less work to model the electorate ("likely voter" etc.)... but that was when almost the entire electorate voted on election day. But every early vote in person is someone who will not be voting next Tuessday - and there is no reason to believe that republicans and democrats are equally as likely to vote early. In fact - four years ago showed a dramatic variance.

Pototan

(2,222 posts)
24. It's only accurate for that 10% of those who already voted
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:21 AM
Oct 2024

it is not predictive of the final results.

but a 30-point lead among voters who have already voted is great news.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
14. Some DUers insist that every poll is paid for by the GOP.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:49 AM
Oct 2024

Seems nothing is going to change that, as silly and tiresome as the assertion has become.

FBaggins

(27,914 posts)
22. Nah... just the ones we don't like
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:11 AM
Oct 2024

Same polling firm a week later shows better numbers and it will be "even they can't hide the momentum"

senseandsensibility

(20,592 posts)
27. I must have missed the DUers who said that every poll
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 03:22 PM
Oct 2024

is paid for by the GOP. Maybe you should provide a link.

Response to FBaggins (Reply #8)

Ghost of Tom Joad

(1,410 posts)
15. I just want to hurl
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:52 AM
Oct 2024

While channel surfing this morning, I came across hand waving Korn-tacki on Meet the Press saying everything is moving in TFGs direction. Apparently game, set and match. What I don't get is that every pundit is assuming that all republican voters are voting for him, many may split the ticket, Halley supporters and Cheney admirers. We really don't know.

Jersey Devil

(10,361 posts)
4. Maybe Carville has some inside info
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:20 AM
Oct 2024

He said a day or two ago that he was very confident and that we would start seeing some "good polls" soon. Sorry, don't have a link.

Jersey Devil

(10,361 posts)
9. but he did mention "good polls" soon
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:40 AM
Oct 2024

Maybe I'm just being an optimist, but I don't think he'd stick his neck out like that if he didn't know something.

Shermann

(8,770 posts)
12. His bold predictions are making headlines
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:59 AM
Oct 2024

I'm not saying they are wrong, but they are educated guesses by a pundit.

Midnight Writer

(23,320 posts)
5. To sum up the polling data...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:24 AM
Oct 2024

TFG lost about 20% of Republican primary voters, and there is a never-Trump movement within the Party. Many of that 20% say they will not vote for Trump in the General Election.

Harris is leading big time among younger voters.

Harris has made inroads among senior voters.

Independent voters seem to be breaking for Harris.

Harris is ahead in the Black vote.

Harris is polling ahead in the Hispanic vote.

Harris is ahead in the LBGTQ+ vote.

Harris is winning the urban and suburban vote.

There is a surge of women voters turning out angry because of the Dobbs decision.

But...

The race is a statistical tie?

How does that add up?

Pototan

(2,222 posts)
10. This poll
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:42 AM
Oct 2024

basically tells us that Harris is re-establishing the Biden coalition. There is probably an increase in the Female vote but a decline in young men that evens out.

As a result, Harris currently has a 4-point lead, which is comparable Biden's 2020 vote.

Dem4life1234

(2,236 posts)
19. So many young males have a loser mindset
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 09:58 AM
Oct 2024

I have noticed the young women are getting things done.

kevink077

(477 posts)
6. Polls pointless at this point
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:30 AM
Oct 2024

It is all a turnout game as many have mentioned. I think Harris and dems are crushing it.

Wiz Imp

(3,017 posts)
23. This is a very good poll for Harris
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:14 AM
Oct 2024

I looked at the cross tabs and it is one of the very few polls this cycle which don't show anything overly questionable in the crosstabs. It shows Harris maybe doing a little better with some constituencies than expected and some a little worse, but nothing seems very far off of a reasonable number.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,613 posts)
25. Likely vs. registered voters
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:23 AM
Oct 2024

I find it encouraging that the numbers are better for likely voters than for registered voters. But I suspect that the difference is greater than they're showing.

My reason: I don't think pollsters have an adequate appreciation of "broken glass and burning coals voters" since Dobbs. Pollsters' "likely voters" screens probably classify a lot of broken glass and burning coals voters as unlikely voters because they didn't vote sometimes in the past, but in fact Dobbs woke a sleeping giant; pollsters still live in the past when the giant was still sleeping.

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,492 posts)
28. This poll is not out in 538, RCP, or 270 to win.Strange...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 03:37 PM
Oct 2024

Oh - it’s a National poll. Does not matter as much as the battleground polls. Wish they would do polls in the battleground states.

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