NYT Sunday Opinion page:

[demmiblue]

Link to tweet

[Ocelot II]

1. See that, Jeff Bezos? It can be done.

Bravo, NYT.

[RandomNumbers]

25. Maybe NYT is trying to pick up those fleeing WaPo subscribers?

We don't have to look too far back to recall how much we don't like the NYT anymore.

I think it's a bit amusing that they have suddenly discovered that they don't like Trump much. (where were you all year, NYT??)

[Ocelot II]

29. NYT has waffled and both-sided infuriatingly and far too often,

although some of their reporting has been excellent and they have some fine opinion writers. WaPo also has had excellent reporting and fine opinion writers, and much less waffling and both-siding. But when push came to shove NYT came through and WaPo blinked.

[wolfie001]

54. Maggie Haberman

[MadameButterfly]

73. In our darkest hour NYT is coming through

They are not one voice, but many. I keep recalling that Ezra Klein is employed there. I imagine staff and reporters are weighing in, using whatever clout they have behind the scenes. If democracy wins at NYT despite their weak performance so far, I'll take it.

[SheltieLover]

2. Should have been the front page imo

[KS Toronado]

31. +100

[IcyPeas]

3. Well well well... wouldja look at that.

[ramedy]

4. They have normalized him for 8 years.

Fuck the NYT.

[Biglinda 52]

11. I Agree

Stopped our subscription months ago.

[paleotn]

12. Yea. Now they see the light. What we've been talking about

since he descended that horrid escalator.

[TBF]

14. When push came to shove Arthur did the right thing & endorsed.

The whole fucking country has been normalizing Trump. At least a few people are ready to stand against him.

[edisdead]

20. Agreed

[Paladin]

39. Well said. (nt)

[Coexist]

5. DAMN!!!!!!

[HagathaCrispy]

6. So... does the NY Times support this?

Are they for this or against this?

[maxsolomon]

43. LOL, right. It's so ambiguous.

"Welcome to DU".

[6502]

78. Hmmm... good question....

That is a very good question given that up until now they had been going easy on Trump when they were not just normalizing him.

[Coexist]

7. ok, I cancelled the WaPo -for this I upgraded my subscription to the NYT!

[wnylib]

26. Pardon my skepticism, but the motive for

this NYT editorial page might be to gain the subscribers who have cancelled WaPo.

[Coexist]

27. I completely understand, but the article has been up on their site since before this,

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/10/25/opinion/what-trump-says.html?unlocked_article_code=1.VU4.6tWU.b9a62J2PQ5Ru&smid=url-share

it was up 2 days ago, which means it was written before that, and they were waiting for the Sunday run to promote it

[wnylib]

48. Just wondering - Do the staff of newspapers

know others in the business outside of their own newspaper and communicate with them?

It just seems strange to me that the NYT has been favorable in coverage of Trump and critical of Harris, then endorsed Harris.

I don't have a NYT subscription so the only time I read a NYT article is when one is posted on DU. But, the NYT has a 30 minute radio program called "The Daily" that the Buffalo NPR station carries every weekday. In general, it has been unfavorable toward Harris and leaning toward Trump in its coverage of the campaign and the polls.

[Elessar Zappa]

50. NYT editorial board has NEVER supported Trump.

[Coexist]

63. Buffalo? I was raised in Lackawanna!

Go Bils! what a game, sorry for being OT

[wnylib]

68. I grew up in Erie, PA but live in western NY now.

Not in Buffalo, but nearby, farther inland from the lake.

My mother was born in Buffalo so we visited relatives there often. When we rode through Lackawanna, we closed the car windows and held our noses against the odor from Bethlehem Steel.

[Coexist]

69. Gee thanks

[wnylib]

72. Sorry, but growing up there, you must know what I mean.

Our route took us right past the steel mill.

Maybe if you lived farther away from there, it was not noticeable.

Erie had a similar problem on the east side of the city from a large paper mill. I lived on the west side so we did not usually get the odor since the wind patterns were generally west to east. But on the rare occasions that winds shifted east to west, the odor would have offended flies on a garbage truck.

[TBF]

28. Sure - we have no idea if they considered

holding back as well. But at this point I don't even care - I just want as much support for Kamala as we can get!

But, yes, your point is understood. Capitalists will be capitalists ...

[maxsolomon]

44. The Editorial Board been unambiguous in their dislike of MFer

for YEARS. They have never wavered.

The suspicion of the NYT on DU has become absurd.

[RobinA]

76. Thank You!

They haven't done everything right, but we are in uncharted territory with Trump, so who has. If you actually read the Times, you don't think they support Trump. And that starts with their financial analysis of Dad Trump and Donald of several years ago. Amazingly enlightening and in no way positive.

[Ocelot II]

30. True, but NYT endorsed Harris almost a month ago.

[wnylib]

49. ?? I missed that.

[maxsolomon]

59. It was in the Sunday NYT.

So, you may have missed it.

[wnylib]

61. Thanks.

[JohnSJ]

52. They endorsed Harris at least a week before WP said they would not

endorse

[Espoir]

8. The NYTimes Editorial Staff Will Say What the Publishers Won't -- Bravo!

I've had my finger hovering over the "unsubscribe" for this paper several times. At least for today, I'm glad I haven't done it yet ...

[maxsolomon]

58. You don't think AG Sulzberger approved this opinion page?

Based on what? This wasn't an endorsement; it's a series of opinion pieces comprising nearly the entire section. One is from the Editorial Board.

Maybe you're thinking of the hallowed WaPo, where the OWNER Jeff Bezos put the kibosh on an endorsement, or maybe the LA Times, where the OWNER Patrick Soon-Shiong put the kibosh on an endorsement.

[Espoir]

67. Not suggesting ...

... that what the Editorial staff did went against management. I have no idea, but I know the Editorial staff has consistently been warning against Trump when the newspaper itself isn't consistent about that. There's been a clear differentiation.

I realize it's not an endorsement -- but they did go out of their way to repeat their message, which I appreciate.

[KatK]

9. Way way way too late. But better than nothing. n/t

[NNadir]

10. A change of heart for the sane washers? n/t.

[usonian]

13. Text is up on pastebin, less the Star Wars graphic 😀

https://pastebin.com/raw/NEMJT5V9

[LearnedHand]

42. What is pastebin?

I've never heard of it and couldn't glean much from their homepage.

[usonian]

53. It's a place mostly for programmers to share blocks of code.

You can just put text up there anonymously or share with an account.

You can just paste text there, get a URL and share it.

I just checked and the paste is there.

HTH

[LearnedHand]

66. SWEET!

[NBachers]

15. djt's hometown newspaper

[TBF]

16. I had kept NY Times my subscription for the puzzles & glad I did -

at least someone has the balls to stand up to Trump. The others are all giving in.

I had been reading both for so many years - particularly the Post when I lived in the DC area for 15 years. But I always got weekend NY Times for the crossword puzzle!

[Mossfern]

19. Same here!

I kept the NYT for the puzzles and the magazine section.
Now I can save that page and put in in a box of archives for posterity.

[Bev54]

17. What happened? Did they lose too many subscribers? This is a real about change.

[maxsolomon]

45. Really? Can you point to any NYT Editorial Board opinions that support that MFer?

You can't. At best you can point at Op-Ed writers that are ambiguous on him - Bret Stephens, namely.

The NYT hasn't endorsed a Repuke since EISENHOWER.

[Lulu KC]

18. Wow

WaPo vs NYT is starting to feel like the Harvard/Yale game.

[AZLD4Candidate]

21. You've been sane-splaining him for months, NYT. Day late, dollar short.

We should have no respect for cheerleaders that see the light and them become johnny-come-latelys.

[NotHardly]

22. Some backbone being grown?

[ArkansasDemocrat1]

56. No, they see which way the wind is blowing

[uponit7771]

75. YEP

[orangecrush]

23. Hell yes.

[markodochartaigh]

24. Let's not lose sight of the fact that

about one third of the electorate either thinks that those policies are desirable or is willing to live with them if it means that their side holds power.

I would say that one third doesn't really care as long as they get their hamberders and sportsball, but it looks like that number may shrink to as low as one fifth this time (finally).

[Diamond_Dog]

32. I say Bravo, but too bad they didn't include "enslave women."

[dalton99a]

33. Put an end to his reign of terror. VOTE!

AND put him in prison

[peggysue2]

34. Well, it's about time!

Particularly since journalists, editors and press owners would all be under the gun in a fascist state. In fact, the 'free press' is usually the first casualty in these takeovers.

Which is why sane-washing of and excuses for Trump and his Flying Monkey Brigade has never made any sense unless these owners believe they would benefit and/or could protect their turf.

They could not without bending the knee. Or worse.

[kairos12]

35. Oh. Kind of like

saying the Titanic should have avoided that iceberg. In 1950.

[BadgerMom]

36. Unexpected.

But welcome.

[Figarosmom]

37. SO NOW THEY SCREAM

I'm surprised Musk is allowing this to stay posted on X.

[Martin68]

38. Good for the NYT. Fuck Bezos.

[mdbl]

40. The Magats do believe him

that's why they are voting for his sorry ass.

[Blue Owl]

41. If all the US newspapers REALLY cared about democracy, they'd run things like this daily

[bif]

46. Is this the NYT everyone seems to hate around here?

And they proudly post that they cancelled their subscriptions to?

[Hekate]

47. Very good to see this. Thx

[Passages]

51. It's about time.

[maxsolomon]

57. If you believe that, you don't read the NYT.

They have NEVER run a pro-Trump Editorial Board opinion.

As I've pointed out multiple times to DU, they haven't endorsed a Repuke since Eisenhower. They don't skip Presidential endorsements, either.

[Passages]

60. Excuse me?

My comment reflects how long it took them to do a full page on him.

I am well aware of the content of the NYT.

[maxsolomon]

64. I was supposed to understand your 3 word comment was specifically about

how long it's taken them to do a full-page headline on the Sunday Opinion section?

Excuse me?

[Passages]

65. Then ask a question.

[SocialDemocrat61]

55. Too little, too late

Doesn’t make up for years of sane washing Trump. And it should be noted that the news reporting staff and the opinion staff are completely separate and autonomous.

[LAS14]

62. Wo!!! nt

[Cha]

70. Wow.. TY & the NYT!

[pecosbob]

71. All the while Habermann normalizes the Bund rally at MSG.

Such a schizophrenic paper. They win Pulitzers for investigative journalism while they normalize fascism and GOP criminality.

[ancianita]

74. Yep. NYT talks out of both sides of its mouth. Still glad I cancelled my 35 year subscription.

[spanone]

77. K&R