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CivicGrief

(182 posts)
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 04:40 PM Oct 2024

I think my wife and I just witnessed an ogre of a husband intimidating his wife

at the early voting site. They were ahead of us on line, and I heard him tell his wife that she has to ensure she registers as a republican for the next election cycle.Then my wife saw him standing over her as she voted. We have those small standing tables with panels blocking three sides, and it is easy to see over someone's shoulder from behind. So much for a secret ballot. I wonder how often this is happening.

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I think my wife and I just witnessed an ogre of a husband intimidating his wife (Original Post) CivicGrief Oct 2024 OP
Disgusting misogyny Dock_Yard Oct 2024 #1
I do too. CivicGrief Oct 2024 #3
There was something very satisfying about the metallic "click"... 3catwoman3 Oct 2024 #12
I loved them. Pulling that big lever, with that "Thunk" sound felt like "Done!". electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #34
Hadn't thought of that. Dang! electric_blue68 Oct 2024 #33
Where were the election workers? They're supposed to stop that from happening. brush Oct 2024 #2
Exactly XanaDUer2 Oct 2024 #5
Good question. CivicGrief Oct 2024 #6
Every voter is entitled to have assistance when voting. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #22
You may have someone help you but it needs to be cleared with an election judge first & the voter must request it dflprincess Oct 2024 #26
It depends on the local rules as to how that plays out as a practical matter. Ms. Toad Oct 2024 #29
That really must depend on where you are. dflprincess Oct 2024 #30
I'm surprised they allowed that XanaDUer2 Oct 2024 #4
Speaking as someone in the deep red heart of MAGA land misanthrope Oct 2024 #18
Kick dalton99a Oct 2024 #7
I see trust is the foundation of their solid relationship. CivicGrief Oct 2024 #9
That photo is from 2016. Mr.Bill Oct 2024 #11
She might have written in Justin Trudeau. n/t Harker Oct 2024 #16
Probably copying off her paper dflprincess Oct 2024 #31
Election officials and/or observors should not allow such behavior bucolic_frolic Oct 2024 #8
I worry about that with mail only ballots. LisaM Oct 2024 #10
Oh, yes it happens iwillalwayswonderwhy Oct 2024 #19
How old were they about ? kimbutgar Oct 2024 #13
Just curious... phoenix_rising Oct 2024 #14
Where we voted, there was no privacy. Anyone else walking to or away from Wonder Why Oct 2024 #15
As a poll worker idahoblue Oct 2024 #17
Somebody was not doing their job, that's for sure. nt Susan Calvin Oct 2024 #21
Thank you for being a poll worker! mcar Oct 2024 #28
Used to see it... 2naSalit Oct 2024 #20
THAT SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED Skittles Oct 2024 #23
A lot NorCalBlue Oct 2024 #24
Probably a lot to women married to narcissists and other domineering assholes Warpy Oct 2024 #25
That is illegal, at least in FL mcar Oct 2024 #27
Someone left some BS proselytizing laminated crap in the voting cubicle I used. Freethinker65 Oct 2024 #32
We still pull the curtain JustAnotherGen Oct 2024 #35

Dock_Yard

(190 posts)
1. Disgusting misogyny
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 04:44 PM
Oct 2024

This is one reason I miss the old 'curtains-pulled" mechanical voting machines.

CivicGrief

(182 posts)
3. I do too.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 04:48 PM
Oct 2024

I loved pulling the lever back to register my vote. I hate filling in the little circles.

3catwoman3

(26,455 posts)
12. There was something very satisfying about the metallic "click"...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:20 PM
Oct 2024

...as you pulled each little lever, and the loud "thunk" sound when you pulled the big handle back to open the curtain and register your choices.

brush

(59,419 posts)
2. Where were the election workers? They're supposed to stop that from happening.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 04:45 PM
Oct 2024

Voters are entitled to their privacy.

Ms. Toad

(36,464 posts)
22. Every voter is entitled to have assistance when voting.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:01 PM
Oct 2024

It is not up to the election workers to keep family members out of the booth, unless requested.

Employers and labor union representatives can't provide assistance, but otherwise the choice is wide open - including election workers. If election workers provide assistance, there has to be one R and one D present at all times when the ballot is visible.

But it is not their job to intervene prevent someone who appears to be there at the request of the voter from seeing their ballot. (If they have reason to suspect intimidation, in some jurisdictions they can require both parties to sign affidavits to attest to the need tor assistance, and to attest that they aren't a boss or labor union representative, and that they didn't tell the voter how to vote.

dflprincess

(28,741 posts)
26. You may have someone help you but it needs to be cleared with an election judge first & the voter must request it
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:28 PM
Oct 2024

At least that's how it worked the last time my mom voted & needed my help filling her ballot out.

Ms. Toad

(36,464 posts)
29. It depends on the local rules as to how that plays out as a practical matter.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:07 PM
Oct 2024

Some precincts/counties may require you to get permission first or sign an affidavit - but often they don't. I have spent hundreds of hours inside polls on election day and during early voting. I have seen many couples, or parents and children, occupying a single voting booth and Idon't recall any election worker suggesting that an apparently voluntary extra person in the booth needed to step out (nor does our training suggest that is anything we should be watching for).

My point is that it isn't the election worker's job to watch and make sure you don't take a buddy to your booth with you. Privacy means you are entitled to a private vote - not that one is forced on you if you choose to share (with limited exceptions related to vote buying).

dflprincess

(28,741 posts)
30. That really must depend on where you are.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:18 PM
Oct 2024

I few ago I did see an election judge tell a man his teenager could not be in the booth (though our "booths" are also the little tables with tall sides, no curtain) with him & would need to wait by the door. The guy did not make a fuss & just said he had thought he'd show the kid how it all worked, but understood the rules.

XanaDUer2

(15,714 posts)
4. I'm surprised they allowed that
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 04:49 PM
Oct 2024

I could barely help out a handicapped person with their ballot

CivicGrief

(182 posts)
9. I see trust is the foundation of their solid relationship.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 04:56 PM
Oct 2024

Is he looking to trade "up" again?

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
11. That photo is from 2016.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:19 PM
Oct 2024

Not that it makes much difference, except they will likely not be voting together this year.

LisaM

(29,086 posts)
10. I worry about that with mail only ballots.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:18 PM
Oct 2024

What about some household with a bullying patriarch in charge ensuring every votes how he wants? You can't tell me that's not happening.

iwillalwayswonderwhy

(2,694 posts)
19. Oh, yes it happens
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 06:51 PM
Oct 2024

I remember telling a guy ay work that our votes cancel out each other. He then told me he has 3 votes. His, his wife, and his mother. He said he fills them out and his wife and mother signs them because they trust him.

phoenix_rising

(323 posts)
14. Just curious...
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:39 PM
Oct 2024

Were you or your wife able to speak with any election workers about it? Just wondering how they handled it, if you did.

Wonder Why

(5,331 posts)
15. Where we voted, there was no privacy. Anyone else walking to or away from
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 05:44 PM
Oct 2024

their machine could see as well as the person escorting the voter.

idahoblue

(420 posts)
17. As a poll worker
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 06:43 PM
Oct 2024

It is my job to prevent voter intimidation. I would walk over an ask him to move away from the voting booth.

mcar

(44,351 posts)
28. Thank you for being a poll worker!
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:33 PM
Oct 2024


I am a poll watcher and I know how hard you all work.

NorCalBlue

(50 posts)
24. A lot
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:16 PM
Oct 2024

I helped my housekeeper register to vote. She’s been a citizen now for 10 yrs. She registered Independent because she was afraid her husband would find out she wanted to vote for Harris. Her Trumper husband told her that she shouldn’t vote for Harris because the people counting ballots could see who she voted for and would report her to the government if she didn’t vote for Trump. And, if Trump won the Presidency he would deport her. She is a highly anxious person and this preyed on her fears. I did what I could and talked to her about how ridiculous this was. He’s a piece of shit and I can’t stand him.

Warpy

(113,132 posts)
25. Probably a lot to women married to narcissists and other domineering assholes
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:27 PM
Oct 2024

Some women even like that behavior, it makes them feel protected (yeah, I know) while reducing any messy choices and relieving them of any responsibility for making a wrong choice.

It's the same reasoning that attracts people to domineering churches.

mcar

(44,351 posts)
27. That is illegal, at least in FL
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 07:31 PM
Oct 2024

I poll watch and one of the things we are trained to do (as are the poll workers, BTW), is note if someone is seeming to influence/watch another's vote.

Husband cannot look over at wife's voting. The clerk should have picked up on that and told him so. If there was a Democratic poll watcher in the room, they should have picked up on that and told the clerk.

This makes me angry. Our vote should be private.

Freethinker65

(11,194 posts)
32. Someone left some BS proselytizing laminated crap in the voting cubicle I used.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 08:48 PM
Oct 2024

I gave the propaganda to the guy who helped guide my ballot in the reader. I told him where I found it, that I was not happy about it, and that they should periodically check the cubicles/booths.

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