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Capitalism leads to monopolies. (Original Post) Buttoneer Oct 2024 OP
Succinct. cachukis Oct 2024 #1
Preditory Capitalism.....the reason that we need regulation. walkingman Oct 2024 #2
That's why capitalism needs to be regulated like a nuclear reactor needs to be regulated. Beartracks Oct 2024 #3
Socialist countries have a monopoly over the economy. former9thward Oct 2024 #4
huh? You're going to have to explain this to me. Buttoneer Oct 2024 #7
Post removed Post removed Oct 2024 #8
Do you have a private definition of socialism? former9thward Oct 2024 #9
I believe in government regulation to prevent monopolies and foster competition. Am I a socialist? Buttoneer Oct 2024 #13
That is not what your OP said. former9thward Oct 2024 #19
SCOTUS make me wonder, but we agree. Buttoneer Oct 2024 #20
What would you call regulated capitalism with a fair marketplace and a safety net? Buttoneer Oct 2024 #17
Regulated capitalism with a fair marketplace and a safety net former9thward Oct 2024 #18
Yes. Bust the Trusts. Where's the FTC? surfered Oct 2024 #5
The Push to Fire Lina Khan Reveals a Serious Problem in Silicon Valley. elleng Oct 2024 #12
The Biden Administration has bee trying! Buttoneer Oct 2024 #14
Capitalism isn't a bad thing. Morbius Oct 2024 #6
THANKS elleng Oct 2024 #11
UNREGULATED capitalism elleng Oct 2024 #10
someone said ...capitalism is the best system for creating wealth, but one of the worst for wiggs Oct 2024 #15
How is Boeing doing, anyway? Simeon Salus Oct 2024 #16
Of course. Xolodno Oct 2024 #21
Capitalism is to blame for the homeless LiberaBlueDem Oct 2024 #22

Beartracks

(13,842 posts)
3. That's why capitalism needs to be regulated like a nuclear reactor needs to be regulated.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:14 PM
Oct 2024

Powerful source of dynamic, boundless energy, but without effective regulation to keep it efficient and focused, it will spin out of control, burn hot, and then melt down.

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former9thward

(33,424 posts)
4. Socialist countries have a monopoly over the economy.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:15 PM
Oct 2024

It is the textbook definition of socialism.

Response to Buttoneer (Reply #7)

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
9. Do you have a private definition of socialism?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:29 PM
Oct 2024

From the dictionary: On the centralist side are socialists who want to invest public control of property in some central authority, such as the state—or the state under the guidance of a political party, as was the case in the Soviet Union.

All socialist countries have followed this model. Again, do you have a private definition?

Buttoneer

(822 posts)
13. I believe in government regulation to prevent monopolies and foster competition. Am I a socialist?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:52 PM
Oct 2024

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
19. That is not what your OP said.
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:57 PM
Oct 2024

It flat out said capitalism leads to monopolies. Period. We have not had that type of capitalism since the 1890s. Regulation in various forms came with the Progressive Movement which started in 1890.

https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/united-states-history-primary-source-timeline/progressive-era-to-new-era-1900-1929/overview/

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
18. Regulated capitalism with a fair marketplace and a safety net
Mon Oct 28, 2024, 01:53 PM
Oct 2024

Although the definition of "regulated" and "fair marketplace" and "a safety net" is completely subjective.

surfered

(5,995 posts)
5. Yes. Bust the Trusts. Where's the FTC?
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:16 PM
Oct 2024

If not then we’ll end up like Russia and the oligarchs

Morbius

(396 posts)
6. Capitalism isn't a bad thing.
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 10:20 PM
Oct 2024

Unregulated capitalism is dangerous. Capitalism with rules in place and people with the power (and the will) to enforce those rules is arguably the best and freest economic system there is.

It's an old saying, but it contains much wisdom: everything in moderation. There is an unrecognized virtue which is critically important in government: balance.

wiggs

(8,183 posts)
15. someone said ...capitalism is the best system for creating wealth, but one of the worst for
Sun Oct 27, 2024, 11:07 PM
Oct 2024

fair distribution.

Too late to search with vigor so might be a paraphrase from memory.

Xolodno

(6,932 posts)
21. Of course.
Tue Oct 29, 2024, 11:36 PM
Oct 2024

That's how its designed. Likewise, capitalism replaced mercantilism which replaced feudalism. As a society we should not be devoted to an economic system like its a religion. Values and society change and our systems should flow with it.

And capitalism can't survive, in every basic 101 economic text book in the first chapter if not in the first paragraph, resources are finite. Capitalism requires continued growth to function. At some point, those two issues will ram each other head on. May not be in my lifetime, but it will happen at some point. But people who are benfiting in it will have to be dragged away from it kicking and screaming.

But in reality, we live in mixed economies, that are slowly moving away from capitalism. In other nations, not so much....yet.

And I think everyone should get a copy of the Communist Manifesto and put in their bathroom, probably finish it in 2-3 sittings. Bonus, if you run out of toilet paper....

But Karl Marx's volumes of "Capital" are very much valid and there isn't a strong enough arguement to challenge them. If the Nordic, Market or something completely else takes hold in a socialist environment still remains to be seen. As of now, ask 100 economists what socialism looks like, you will get 300 different answers. Nobody knows, we'll just eventually evolve towards it, other nations might be doing so now.

Communism on the other hand (and no, its not socialism), a command economy, won't work until we have Star Trek levels of technology.

LiberaBlueDem

(1,166 posts)
22. Capitalism is to blame for the homeless
Wed Oct 30, 2024, 01:31 AM
Oct 2024

In the socialist US the road system is the best example
Owned by the state and used by ALL
It is the fundamental item in America

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