General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsbig BIG BREAKING NEWS... IOWA: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day 47-44
This is BIG... if accurate.
Losing Iowa would signal a BIG election night thumping for Trump.
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/02/iowa-poll-kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-2024-presidential-race/75354033007/
Iowa Poll: Kamala Harris leapfrogs Donald Trump to take lead near Election Day. Here's how
Kamala Harris now leads Donald Trump in Iowa a startling reversal for Democrats and Republicans who have all but written off the states presidential contest as a certain Trump victory.
A new Des Moines Register/Mediacom Iowa Poll shows Vice President Harris leading former President Trump 47% to 44% among likely voters just days before a high-stakes election that appears deadlocked in key battleground states.
The results follow a September Iowa Poll that showed Trump with a 4-point lead over Harris and a June Iowa Poll showing him with an 18-point lead over Democratic President Joe Biden, who was the presumed Democratic nominee at the time.
Who said we're not going to have a winner Tuesday night?????
RandySF
(70,227 posts)WarGamer
(15,061 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(50,787 posts)🔵2012: D+5 (D+6)
🔴2016: R+7 (R+9)
🔴2020: R+7 (R+8)
🔵2024: D+3 (?)
Here's 2014 Senate race. At the end Selzer is the only outlier and the closest:
senseandsensibility
(20,319 posts)Thanks for posting.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,088 posts)Normally I would scoff at such predictions, but the DMR poll is considered the gold standard (far above those A+++rated! Polls others rave about), so even with a 3 point margin that is probably within the MOE, we just might have a chance there.
If Trump suddenly books a rally in Iowa, then well know we have a serious chance.
newdeal2
(826 posts)He is screwed and it will be a fun night here.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,088 posts)Tribetime
(6,158 posts)calguy
(5,735 posts)I'd say it's too late to schedule a rally in Iowa. It's all over at this point except for a couple last rallies.
C_U_L8R
(45,585 posts)I think we're gonna see a lot more pleasant surprises in the next few days !!!
Tribetime
(6,158 posts)bluestarone
(18,038 posts)Maybe i can spend money in Iowa again.
a kennedy
(31,880 posts)Trump continues to lead with his core base of support: men, evangelicals, rural residents and those without a college degree.
Nuff said......ugh....
50 Shades Of Blue
(10,875 posts)onetexan
(13,838 posts)Cha
(304,663 posts)Geeze Louise. .. It feels Surreal right now!
💙🌊🌊🌊🇺🇸🕯️🕊️🌈
onetexan
(13,838 posts)Cha
(304,663 posts)Ms. Toad
(35,414 posts)It is conservative, but in a more Minnesota way of being conservative, than the Texas or Florida are conservative. Trump's recent antics would not go over well there.
Quiet Em
(774 posts)LFG. Woohoo
clutterbox1830
(447 posts)At least more then other swing states. It is not as conservative than people think. Obama won the state easily compared to FL or OH
Tribetime
(6,158 posts)clutterbox1830
(447 posts)I'm not sure about TX this election. Voting suppression is higher there. Also, Houston is expected heavy t-storms in the morning and afternoon.
LisaL
(46,292 posts)NT
Sky Jewels
(8,781 posts)and another showing her having a massive lead in NH. Another poll showed Trump up only 3 in Ohio. As many have suspected, weve likely been sold a bullshit narrative about the state of this race being extremely close.
Music Man
(1,574 posts)There was an Emerson College poll released today that showed Trump up 10 in Iowa: https://emersoncollegepolling.com/november-2024-iowa-poll-trump-53-harris-43/ Both polls can't be accurate, so we'll see on Tuesday. I hope we can put in the work in Iowa these next few days and make it the surprise of the season.
demmiblue
(37,837 posts)WarGamer
(15,061 posts)Nevilledog
(53,155 posts)Link to tweet
emptywheel (blue algae)
@emptywheel
·
Follow
Male pollster: Tie game, we've adjusted for Trump
Male pollster: Tie game, we've adjusted for Trump
Male pollster: Tie game, we've adjusted for Trump
Male pollster: Tie game, we've adjusted for Trump
Ann Selzer: Have you boys heard of Dobbs?
4:18 PM · Nov 2, 2024
Link to tweet
Matthew Klein
@MattKleinOnline
·
Follow
Final Selzer poll findings (and the actual result)
2022 Senate: R+12 (R+12)
2020 President: R+7 (R+8)
2020 Senate: R+4 (R+7)
2018 Governor: D+2 (R+3)
2016 President: R+7 (R+9)
2014 Senate: R+7 (R+8)
2012 President: D+5 (D+6)
About as good as any pollster gets.
AKwannabe
(6,279 posts)Nevilledog
Woot
Quixote1818
(30,216 posts)Someone is going to be way off.
https://emersoncollegepolling.com/november-2024-iowa-poll-trump-53-harris-43/
WarGamer
(15,061 posts)hey had Trump +18 over Biden... and Trump +4 over Harris in Sept.
H+3 today.
I think it's real.
Quixote1818
(30,216 posts)Tetrachloride
(8,431 posts)BootinUp
(48,799 posts)MadameButterfly
(1,520 posts)before the election. The first indication that the flawless Kamala campaign and despicable Trump campaign are getting through to voters.
In past times we could count on it, Trump does 10 things a day that would end any other career. But I'd lost hope that anything he could do would have an impact. But maybe Trump has finally reached lows sufficient to lose
Kamala has been brilliant beyond my expectations and we couldn't hope for more. It's encouraging to think it might have hit it's mark.
If we get Iowa, the election is won. Even if we don't get Iowa, if things are trending this way, the election is won.
Deminpenn
(16,171 posts)cycle. I think there is something funky with their LV model.
Qutzupalotl
(15,053 posts)when he said the right was flooding the zone with favorable (and mostly RW-sponsored) polls this cycle to game the averages. They have had a good track record in the past, but things change.
Deminpenn
(16,171 posts)I suspect they are modeling on 2016 and 2020 meaning trying to capture "hidden" Trump voters. In 2016, Trump was shiny and new and had a lot of people believing the made up TV world of "The Apprentice". In 2020, although Trump did get more voters, his crazy and chaotic administration was fresh in voter's minds and voters rejected him. Now Trump is pretty much yesterday's news and Harris is the new, fresh face despite being VP for the last 4 years. Jmo, but pollsters aren't recognizing that in their LV models.
mchill
(1,074 posts)The 6 week abortion ban went into effect this last summer and Iowans are starting to see the consequences. Also, Trump lost no actual ground since Septsame number of voters, but the size of the actual voter pool increased and most of those respondents went to Kamala Harris.
She also notes neither candidate gets to 50% so still some swing left for voting day. Most importantly, she said that polls deciding that they know what the future electorate looks like maybe basing it Donald Trump on past electorate (explaining the Emerson poll you mention) which would overly favor the previous winner.
NNadir
(34,499 posts)...the asshole, will demonstrate America's greatness.
spanone
(137,498 posts)If this is what you say
I love it !
Tribetime
(6,158 posts)12 point shift from 2020
wordstroken
(644 posts)usonian
(13,505 posts)What's a small landslide?, you ask.
FakeNoose
(35,409 posts)Kamala and Tim will have a definitive win. Chump and Vance will be shown the door.
usonian
(13,505 posts)THEN the manure.
FakeNoose
(35,409 posts)My fondest dream coming true!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strelnikov_
(7,791 posts)Last poll I saw had 2 of the 4 Congress seats competitive, with the R leading in these two similar to the Orange One (4%). With the 7% swing to Harris in the current poll for POTUS . . .
LexVegas
(6,516 posts)liberalmuse
(18,874 posts)And it would still be great for Harris. I never in my wildest dreams thought Harris would be at +3. My hope was it would be only Trump +6. Any lower seemed like a pipe dream. Biden won the EC at Trump +8 in this poll. Does this mean she will win Iowa? Maybe, maybe not, but its a great indicator of how the Midwest will likely vote. This pollster is probably THE best pollster for her neck of the woods.
jcgoldie
(12,027 posts)...it means she will steamroll in wi, mi, and pa
ibegurpard
(16,838 posts)Was ecstatic when he misread it as Trump +3. They were gobsmacked just now and couldn't stop smiling.
ThePartyThatListens
(39 posts)WoW!!!
Vogon_Glory
(9,478 posts)the Good Guys might not have to sweat losing Nevada to Donald John.
I dont know enough about Iowa to account for the swing. Id like to think I have a reason, though. My impression is that Iowans are rather square (Which is why right-wingers have been able to use gays and abortion as hot-button issues to bash Democrats). Maybe, just maybe, enough Iowans have decided that theyre so disgusted with Donald Johns potty mouth and behavior that theyd sooner vote for Kamala than feel like theyve waded through liquid sleaze by voting for whats-his-name. And the latest leak about Donald Johns visit to Jeffrey Epsteins island isnt going to impress Iowas non-Incels.
Music Man
(1,574 posts)Lemon Lyman
(1,470 posts)Good for Ralph Newbanks from Solon!
Ralph Newbanks, a 63-year-old poll respondent from Solon, said he is a lifelong Republican who plans to vote for Harris this year.
It's not what I like about her, it's what I dislike about Trump, he said. Since 2020 and the Capitol riots, I couldn't vote for Trump if he paid me, not for love nor money.
He thought about casting a ballot for a third-party candidate, but he didnt want to lodge a protest vote. He wants to make sure Trump doesnt return to the White House.
To me, the biggest part of democracy is the ability to compromise, he said. And with Donald Trump and the MAGA movement, there is no compromise, even within their own party.
0rganism
(24,556 posts)Either way, we'll have actual results to compare in a few days
ibegurpard
(16,838 posts)That would be something. I still don't think she's winning Iowa but it shows movement and confirms the gender gap we're hearing about.
Please let it be so.
AntiFascist
(12,848 posts)and this thinking might be extended to other battleground states.
Florida Dem
(31 posts)I wonder if Waltz or Harris shouldn't squeeze in a quick rally in Des Moines before election day just to f@ with the orange turd's head and make him double diaper.
Cha
(304,663 posts)On Target 🎯 TY!
🕯️🕊️🇺🇸💙🌊🌊🇺🇸🌈🌊💙🌊
Deminpenn
(16,171 posts)on his podcast when her poll showing Harris within 6 came out. He thought then that those results were .a big deal .
Lemon Lyman
(1,470 posts)Its anecdotal, but heres something Ive noticed.
Theres a big-time R supporter who lives just South of Dubuque. Its a married couple who have a beautiful home. They have $$. Theyre big time enough to get R presidential candidates to come to their house for fundraisers. Back in 2010ish they had one for Santorum. This year they had one for Burgham. They always have all the R candidate signs on their property. In the past 2 presidential election cycles they had a Tangeranus sign. This year they dont.
There are WAY fewer Tangeranus signs everywhere in Eastern IA this cycle than there were in past elections. Maybe these people are still voting for him, just embarrassed to admit it. Maybe theyre not voting for him this time (theyve had enough). Hopefully its the latter.
Strelnikov_
(7,791 posts)Other than the shrines, not nearly as many Orange One signs as past elections.
Did see a farmstead, Bremer or Chickasaw, up there somewhere, that had a three sign sequence, probably 4 x 8 signs (sub shrine class, no flags).
Orange one > Pat Grassley > and a homemade Stop Dangerous Carbon Pipelines
Bit of a head scratcher, that last one.
Deminpenn
(16,171 posts)then nothing in 2020, presumably out of embarrassment, right up until relatively recently when the Trump signs and flags came out. So I think whatever shame these Trumpers felt in 2020 no longer exists. They must figure enough time has passed since 2016.
dalton99a
(84,043 posts)NBachers
(18,078 posts)Zambero
(9,689 posts)I recall when a majority of Iowa voters went for Dukakis back in '88 when Bush won 54-46 in the national popular vote. A return to sanity in those parts would be most welcome!
peggysue2
(11,458 posts)Blue Wave rising. Gonna wash across the shoreline with a mighty roar!
Emile
(28,916 posts)MAGATS are in for a sad day on Wednesday.
Response to WarGamer (Original post)
Name removed Message auto-removed
hawkeye21
(201 posts)As an Iowan, it has been beyond embarrassing to see the state go from a socially progressive, politically moderate state to a gung-ho MAGA haven. For the last decade, I haven't been able to stand being around anyone I don't know because I assume they are MAGA. For a state like Iowa to be sucked into this cult, there has to be some extraordinary power at work. Iowa has had great governors of both parties: Democrat and one-time truck diver Harold Hughes to name one, and long-time Republican Gov. Robert D. Ray for another. Both were decent, honorable people who were widely respected across the political spectrum. But now Iowa has a horrible MAGA governor and a miserable MAGA legislature that's defunding its once outstanding public schools and supporting private, "religious" schools instead, and banning books and abortion, among other MAGA mischief.
So if Iowa actually does regain its senses and goes for Kamala, it will make this election even more gratifying for me personally. Make it so, then we can live long and prosper.
Thrill
(19,275 posts)Apparently they dont have enough OBGYNs. And cant recruit any to the state. Women there are concerned about starting families there
getagrip_already
(17,249 posts)The plumbing doesnt go into hibernation once menopause hits. Blockages, cists, pap smears and other routine tests, become difficult to even diagnose let alone routinely screen for.
Its a concern for women at every age.
Im a guy, and even i know that.
Bayard
(24,099 posts)He is amazed.