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Kamala is going to win. (Original Post) DemocracyWorks Nov 2024 OP
Agree 100% Gaytano70 Nov 2024 #1
I have said that from the beginning Butterflylady Nov 2024 #2
She won't win Iowa Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #3
Obama won Iowa twice MannyS Nov 2024 #9
Would be amazing. Johnny2X2X Nov 2024 #10
Dems have out performed their polling in recent cycles. paleotn Nov 2024 #13
Trump will win the second prize... Omnipresent Nov 2024 #28
Thanks for that info. Welcome to DU @MannyS. iluvtennis Nov 2024 #11
Welcome to DU, MannyS! calimary Nov 2024 #19
👍! rubbersole Nov 2024 #23
The poll reflects all Iowa voters, not just the late deciders. lees1975 Nov 2024 #40
I think Iowa is credibly in doubt now---- Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #42
Hey, either the poll is good or it isn't MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #45
The last thing this poll is about is winning Iowa imho mchill Nov 2024 #47
Do not depend on polls. Voters must vote as if Harris/Walz need every vote. Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #4
Yes, of course. Elessar Zappa Nov 2024 #5
If anyone stays home over the polls they are nuts but MadameButterfly Nov 2024 #46
It's going to be RSH Nov 2024 #6
Kamala has regained the lead in the betting markets, too William Seger Nov 2024 #7
"DonOld" Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #22
Probably should be "The DonOld" William Seger Nov 2024 #24
Lol! Dave Bowman Nov 2024 #26
I have been doing my best to cite "DonOLD" for a long while... Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #43
If you look at the early voting data that's coming out of the different states oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #8
Thanks for posting this link to Iowa early voting!--- other than the Register poll, Jack Valentino Nov 2024 #44
Ok, so this is a highly respected poll in Iowa, that I get. Does this Ann Selzer have polls for other states? Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2024 #12
Harris 47; Trump 44; Kennedy 3. 🤣 Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2024 #14
She only does Iowa Deminpenn Nov 2024 #18
Thank you! Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2024 #35
Because she runs the poll for the Des Moines Register, and Iowa is all she does. Volaris Nov 2024 #41
Maybe dominos are gonna start falling...... lastlib Nov 2024 #15
Never never never let up James48 Nov 2024 #16
I hope so and believe so, too. notroot Nov 2024 #17
Yup, it's the vote counting and certification we need to worry about. Joinfortmill Nov 2024 #20
Keep. On. Pushing. Ramming Speed. DinahMoeHum Nov 2024 #21
I bet donOLD is having his team plan a trip tomorrow to Iowa for a rally ASAP kimbutgar Nov 2024 #25
My gut feeling hasn't changed since she came on the scene. LilElf70 Nov 2024 #27
Kamala really represents COL Mustard Nov 2024 #29
I hope so. Groundhawg Nov 2024 #30
Based on the interview with Selzer mchill Nov 2024 #31
I've heard from a couple different, unrelated people Deminpenn Nov 2024 #38
Welcome to DU!!! bdamomma Nov 2024 #32
Vote! Askov_Finlyson Nov 2024 #33
I remember when Obama won Iowa Dem4life1234 Nov 2024 #34
Yes. She. Is. ThePartyThatListens Nov 2024 #36
The latest twists in the corporate media narrative give me reason to be confident Rocknation Nov 2024 #37
Agreed. Texasgal Nov 2024 #39
Remember on Wednesday when you encounter an upset MAGAT, tell them Emile Nov 2024 #48

Butterflylady

(4,357 posts)
2. I have said that from the beginning
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:49 PM
Nov 2024

When I said the Supreme Court just gave us the win in this election. When they ruled that abortion was overturned.

Johnny2X2X

(22,702 posts)
3. She won't win Iowa
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:52 PM
Nov 2024

But that poll is a sign of her late surge. She is winning late deciders by a large margin.

Johnny2X2X

(22,702 posts)
10. Would be amazing.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:39 PM
Nov 2024

It I think the bigger picture is this is a sign she is finishing strong and Trump is floundering. This predicts a landslide.

paleotn

(20,229 posts)
13. Dems have out performed their polling in recent cycles.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:53 PM
Nov 2024

And dipshit has done everything he could to f himself the last 2 weeks. Going to be really interesting.

calimary

(85,788 posts)
19. Welcome to DU, MannyS!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:15 PM
Nov 2024

Hey, it's certainly worth keeping in mind, while we're all keeping our fingers crossed!

lees1975

(6,396 posts)
40. The poll reflects all Iowa voters, not just the late deciders.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:06 AM
Nov 2024

A three point lead in that poll three days before the election is a pretty sure thing.

MadameButterfly

(2,752 posts)
45. Hey, either the poll is good or it isn't
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 05:49 AM
Nov 2024

If it's good, she wins Iowa. And if she wins Iowa, she wins.

mchill

(1,160 posts)
47. The last thing this poll is about is winning Iowa imho
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:32 AM
Nov 2024

Trump could still win Iowa (still very close). This poll is indicative of a new electorate, mostly women (based on the pollster’s words) coming out to vote Harris. This is likely due to the strict abortion laws instituted in Iowa last summer. The consequences of these laws are sinking in. Think Texas, Florida, or anywhere else a futuristic electorate, as she called it, might not being polled properly. If these pollsters are using a sample based on would be Trump voters or would be Kamala voters of 2016 and 2020, it only exaggerates what took place in the past (either direction). I assume she means new likely voters and mostly women are not being sampled properly in 2024 by other pollsters. The Emerson poll in Iowa has Trump +10 as an example. (I also was just reading a Nate Silver article that so many polls falling so closely together is beyond the odds, and Emerson Poll is near the top in what he calls “herding”— the tendency of some polling firms to move with the flock by file-drawering (not publishing) results that don’t match the consensus or torturing their turnout models. ) Selzer is consistently ranked as an A+ pollster by FiveThirtyEight. She also mentioned the shock factor of seeing this result and resisting the inclination not to trust and sticking with the methodology (highly paraphrased).

MadameButterfly

(2,752 posts)
46. If anyone stays home over the polls they are nuts but
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 05:50 AM
Nov 2024

the rest of us need some peace of mind as we approach results that will spell hope or armageddon.

William Seger

(11,517 posts)
7. Kamala has regained the lead in the betting markets, too
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:26 PM
Nov 2024

They went nutty for a while when DonOld starting recovering in the polls, but I expect that a LOT of people are getting a whiff of what's about to happen!

Dave Bowman

(4,916 posts)
22. "DonOld"
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:35 PM
Nov 2024

I really like that nickname. The other day someone came up with Pedonnie, that totally cracked me up.

William Seger

(11,517 posts)
24. Probably should be "The DonOld"
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:44 PM
Nov 2024

I don't remember now who it was, but someone suggested that name because of the way he pronounces KaMala. My new favorite nickname, courtesy of Jimmy Kimmel, is Martin Luther Burger King.

Jack Valentino

(1,793 posts)
43. I have been doing my best to cite "DonOLD" for a long while...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:30 AM
Nov 2024

since Joe withdrew from the race mostly over doubts about his age,
it seems only fair to point out who is the oldest candidate ever going into a general election

oldmanlynn

(635 posts)
8. If you look at the early voting data that's coming out of the different states
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:27 PM
Nov 2024

The fact that Democrats were doing very well in Iowa was abundantly clear so this was something that we saw several days ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/iowa-results

Jack Valentino

(1,793 posts)
44. Thanks for posting this link to Iowa early voting!--- other than the Register poll,
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 01:35 AM
Nov 2024

I had seen no 'hard info' about Iowa---

the Democratic and Republican early voting there are nearly even,
but Kamala ought to be winning the independents,
especially with more youthful voters avoiding registering by party---

I think this "surprise" is all answered by the Dobbs decision!!!!

I think we can win there!
https://democraticunderground.com/100219645094

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,081 posts)
12. Ok, so this is a highly respected poll in Iowa, that I get. Does this Ann Selzer have polls for other states?
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:48 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:59 PM - Edit history (1)

I can only find results for Iowa. Why poll for only one state?

Deminpenn

(16,717 posts)
18. She only does Iowa
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:11 PM
Nov 2024

There are state specific pollsters. In PA, Franklin and Marshall College and Muhlenberg College only poll the state. These are the best pollsters because they know their state the best, how to poll it and how to interpret the results.

James48

(4,792 posts)
16. Never never never let up
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:10 PM
Nov 2024

Keep going. Talk to others. Drive someone to the polls.

It’s not over until the Electoral Ballits are counted and registered in Congress.


I would love nothing more than a big blue wave blowout- but there is no data that suggests we can let up.

DinahMoeHum

(22,826 posts)
21. Keep. On. Pushing. Ramming Speed.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:18 PM
Nov 2024

then brace yourselves for the next 76 days, because Trump will NOT concede no matter what.
Cut him off at every turn.

LilElf70

(816 posts)
27. My gut feeling hasn't changed since she came on the scene.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:53 PM
Nov 2024

Kamala!!!! Bigly win. Not to mention the the con man has made his point of view less attractive on a daily basis.

As far as I'm concerned, it's over. Has been for months.

I give Joe Biden full credit for saving our democracy, AGAIN!!!!!

mchill

(1,160 posts)
31. Based on the interview with Selzer
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:03 PM
Nov 2024

She suggested that some of the other pollsters in Iowa and other states are using an electorate similar to 2016 and 2020. In her pool, they discovered since September they had to add new respondents because there were definitely new voters and the new voters all went to Harris. She suggested that was a reaction to the restrictive abortion law that came into effect this last summer and Iowa’s are starting to see the consequence. She said women over 65 were voting three to one for Harris. I think this bodes very well for other swing states that have archaic abortion laws. Texas comes to my mind first. It’s already very close. Florida perhaps. And what’s going on in Georgia with abortion laws? (Assuming those pollsters haven’t adjusted their sample based on a future electorate rather than a past electorate.)

Deminpenn

(16,717 posts)
38. I've heard from a couple different, unrelated people
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:59 PM
Nov 2024

who have spoken to or had conversations with people in my western PA county, that there are "quiet" Harris voters here. The LV models might not be capturing them.

bdamomma

(67,923 posts)
32. Welcome to DU!!!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:08 PM
Nov 2024

We need a landsllde, to bury him good. But he is shoveling to his base, that he is ahead in the polls, and that he is winning. The next 76 days will be hell in the country until Jan. 20th.

If you want to hear what Steven Schmidt ? ( I'm not quite sure) said on MSNBC, listen to Randi Rhodes Podcast from 31st October, which is posted on Liberal You Tubers at 1:00:39.

Rocknation

(44,908 posts)
37. The latest twists in the corporate media narrative give me reason to be confident
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:55 PM
Nov 2024

Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2024, 06:46 PM - Edit history (5)

that Kamala has already won.

Why? Because of: The LA Times and USA Today refusing to endorse either candidate. The New York Times and the gaggle of celebrities not endorsing Kamala until this late date. Trump ratcheting up his cognitive decline as if he's hoping that losing the election would help him win a legal ruling of being too incompetent to stand trial or be sentenced on his upcoming court cases. "Shock! Bombshell!" reports of how Florida, Texas, North Carolina, and even Kansas might be turning purple. And now this "hysteria" over the Ann Selzer Iowa poll -- if she's among the most highly respected of pollsters, how come the public has never heard of her before?

I think it's all the result of being unable to endorse DuhDon without coming out of it looking like an even bigger loser than he is (or a possible accomplice to his crimes); or wanting to appear to have been on Kamala's side "all along" once she wins.


Rocknation

Texasgal

(17,211 posts)
39. Agreed.
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:00 AM
Nov 2024

I felt a bit worried for a while, but as things have started moving closer, it's clear. She WILL win.

Emile

(33,931 posts)
48. Remember on Wednesday when you encounter an upset MAGAT, tell them
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 07:41 AM
Nov 2024

you voted with the MAJORITY.

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