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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsKamala is going to win.
I never felt more confident than I am now. Ann Selzer poll has Kamala +3 in red Iowa is a shock across this election.
Gaytano70
(1,207 posts)Butterflylady
(4,011 posts)When I said the Supreme Court just gave us the win in this election. When they ruled that abortion was overturned.
Johnny2X2X
(21,907 posts)But that poll is a sign of her late surge. She is winning late deciders by a large margin.
MannyS
(19 posts)Have some faith!
Johnny2X2X
(21,907 posts)It I think the bigger picture is this is a sign she is finishing strong and Trump is floundering. This predicts a landslide.
paleotn
(19,617 posts)And dipshit has done everything he could to f himself the last 2 weeks. Going to be really interesting.
Omnipresent
(6,503 posts)Prison!
iluvtennis
(20,958 posts)calimary
(84,712 posts)Hey, it's certainly worth keeping in mind, while we're all keeping our fingers crossed!
lees1975
(6,133 posts)A three point lead in that poll three days before the election is a pretty sure thing.
Jack Valentino
(1,515 posts)and before Trump, Democratic candidates were very successful there---
https://democraticunderground.com/100219645094
MadameButterfly
(2,049 posts)If it's good, she wins Iowa. And if she wins Iowa, she wins.
mchill
(1,101 posts)Trump could still win Iowa (still very close). This poll is indicative of a new electorate, mostly women (based on the pollsters words) coming out to vote Harris. This is likely due to the strict abortion laws instituted in Iowa last summer. The consequences of these laws are sinking in. Think Texas, Florida, or anywhere else a futuristic electorate, as she called it, might not being polled properly. If these pollsters are using a sample based on would be Trump voters or would be Kamala voters of 2016 and 2020, it only exaggerates what took place in the past (either direction). I assume she means new likely voters and mostly women are not being sampled properly in 2024 by other pollsters. The Emerson poll in Iowa has Trump +10 as an example. (I also was just reading a Nate Silver article that so many polls falling so closely together is beyond the odds, and Emerson Poll is near the top in what he calls herding the tendency of some polling firms to move with the flock by file-drawering (not publishing) results that dont match the consensus or torturing their turnout models. ) Selzer is consistently ranked as an A+ pollster by FiveThirtyEight. She also mentioned the shock factor of seeing this result and resisting the inclination not to trust and sticking with the methodology (highly paraphrased).
Freethinker65
(11,165 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,173 posts)But good news is welcome.
MadameButterfly
(2,049 posts)the rest of us need some peace of mind as we approach results that will spell hope or armageddon.
RSH
(10 posts)A BLOW OUT LANDSLIDE!!!
William Seger
(11,123 posts)They went nutty for a while when DonOld starting recovering in the polls, but I expect that a LOT of people are getting a whiff of what's about to happen!
Dave Bowman
(3,935 posts)I really like that nickname. The other day someone came up with Pedonnie, that totally cracked me up.
William Seger
(11,123 posts)I don't remember now who it was, but someone suggested that name because of the way he pronounces KaMala. My new favorite nickname, courtesy of Jimmy Kimmel, is Martin Luther Burger King.
Dave Bowman
(3,935 posts)Jack Valentino
(1,515 posts)since Joe withdrew from the race mostly over doubts about his age,
it seems only fair to point out who is the oldest candidate ever going into a general election
oldmanlynn
(521 posts)The fact that Democrats were doing very well in Iowa was abundantly clear so this was something that we saw several days ago
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/iowa-results
Jack Valentino
(1,515 posts)I had seen no 'hard info' about Iowa---
the Democratic and Republican early voting there are nearly even,
but Kamala ought to be winning the independents,
especially with more youthful voters avoiding registering by party---
I think this "surprise" is all answered by the Dobbs decision!!!!
I think we can win there!
https://democraticunderground.com/100219645094
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,049 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:59 PM - Edit history (1)
I can only find results for Iowa. Why poll for only one state?
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,049 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:00 PM - Edit history (1)
https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/politics/iowa-poll/2024/11/02/iowa-poll-kamala-harris-leads-donald-trump-2024-presidential-race/75354033007/Kennedy is going to hurt TFG badly 😂
Deminpenn
(16,360 posts)There are state specific pollsters. In PA, Franklin and Marshall College and Muhlenberg College only poll the state. These are the best pollsters because they know their state the best, how to poll it and how to interpret the results.
Jmb 4 Harris-Walz
(1,049 posts)Volaris
(10,653 posts)lastlib
(24,994 posts)Cross fingers...
James48
(4,620 posts)Keep going. Talk to others. Drive someone to the polls.
Its not over until the Electoral Ballits are counted and registered in Congress.
I would love nothing more than a big blue wave blowout- but there is no data that suggests we can let up.
notroot
(267 posts)But I won't be satisfied until Inauguration Day.
Joinfortmill
(16,690 posts)DinahMoeHum
(22,531 posts)then brace yourselves for the next 76 days, because Trump will NOT concede no matter what.
Cut him off at every turn.
kimbutgar
(23,672 posts)LilElf70
(578 posts)Kamala!!!! Bigly win. Not to mention the the con man has made his point of view less attractive on a daily basis.
As far as I'm concerned, it's over. Has been for months.
I give Joe Biden full credit for saving our democracy, AGAIN!!!!!
COL Mustard
(7,017 posts)Morning in America. The real one, not the faux one from 40 years ago.
Groundhawg
(1,024 posts)mchill
(1,101 posts)She suggested that some of the other pollsters in Iowa and other states are using an electorate similar to 2016 and 2020. In her pool, they discovered since September they had to add new respondents because there were definitely new voters and the new voters all went to Harris. She suggested that was a reaction to the restrictive abortion law that came into effect this last summer and Iowas are starting to see the consequence. She said women over 65 were voting three to one for Harris. I think this bodes very well for other swing states that have archaic abortion laws. Texas comes to my mind first. Its already very close. Florida perhaps. And whats going on in Georgia with abortion laws? (Assuming those pollsters havent adjusted their sample based on a future electorate rather than a past electorate.)
Deminpenn
(16,360 posts)who have spoken to or had conversations with people in my western PA county, that there are "quiet" Harris voters here. The LV models might not be capturing them.
bdamomma
(66,759 posts)We need a landsllde, to bury him good. But he is shoveling to his base, that he is ahead in the polls, and that he is winning. The next 76 days will be hell in the country until Jan. 20th.
If you want to hear what Steven Schmidt ? ( I'm not quite sure) said on MSNBC, listen to Randi Rhodes Podcast from 31st October, which is posted on Liberal You Tubers at 1:00:39.
Askov_Finlyson
(49 posts)Pedal to the metal. Pile on. Run up the score. No should sleep on this. Vote, just vote.
Dem4life1234
(2,021 posts)That was amazing!
ThePartyThatListens
(286 posts)Rocknation
(44,885 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2024, 05:46 PM - Edit history (5)
that Kamala has already won.
Why? Because of: The LA Times and USA Today refusing to endorse either candidate. The New York Times and the gaggle of celebrities not endorsing Kamala until this late date. Trump ratcheting up his cognitive decline as if he's hoping that losing the election would help him win a legal ruling of being too incompetent to stand trial or be sentenced on his upcoming court cases. "Shock! Bombshell!" reports of how Florida, Texas, North Carolina, and even Kansas might be turning purple. And now this "hysteria" over the Ann Selzer Iowa poll -- if she's among the most highly respected of pollsters, how come the public has never heard of her before?
I think it's all the result of being unable to endorse DuhDon without coming out of it looking like an even bigger loser than he is (or a possible accomplice to his crimes); or wanting to appear to have been on Kamala's side "all along" once she wins.
Rocknation
Texasgal
(17,165 posts)I felt a bit worried for a while, but as things have started moving closer, it's clear. She WILL win.
Emile
(31,010 posts)you voted with the MAJORITY.