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Kamala is going to win. (Original Post) DemocracyWorks Nov 2 OP
Agree 100% Gaytano70 Nov 2 #1
I have said that from the beginning Butterflylady Nov 2 #2
She won't win Iowa Johnny2X2X Nov 2 #3
Obama won Iowa twice MannyS Nov 2 #9
Would be amazing. Johnny2X2X Nov 2 #10
Dems have out performed their polling in recent cycles. paleotn Nov 2 #13
Trump will win the second prize... Omnipresent Nov 2 #28
Thanks for that info. Welcome to DU @MannyS. iluvtennis Nov 2 #11
Welcome to DU, MannyS! calimary Nov 2 #19
👍! rubbersole Nov 2 #23
The poll reflects all Iowa voters, not just the late deciders. lees1975 Nov 2 #40
I think Iowa is credibly in doubt now---- Jack Valentino Nov 3 #42
Hey, either the poll is good or it isn't MadameButterfly Nov 3 #45
The last thing this poll is about is winning Iowa imho mchill Nov 3 #47
Do not depend on polls. Voters must vote as if Harris/Walz need every vote. Freethinker65 Nov 2 #4
Yes, of course. Elessar Zappa Nov 2 #5
If anyone stays home over the polls they are nuts but MadameButterfly Nov 3 #46
It's going to be RSH Nov 2 #6
Kamala has regained the lead in the betting markets, too William Seger Nov 2 #7
"DonOld" Dave Bowman Nov 2 #22
Probably should be "The DonOld" William Seger Nov 2 #24
Lol! Dave Bowman Nov 2 #26
I have been doing my best to cite "DonOLD" for a long while... Jack Valentino Nov 3 #43
If you look at the early voting data that's coming out of the different states oldmanlynn Nov 2 #8
Thanks for posting this link to Iowa early voting!--- other than the Register poll, Jack Valentino Nov 3 #44
Ok, so this is a highly respected poll in Iowa, that I get. Does this Ann Selzer have polls for other states? Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2 #12
Harris 47; Trump 44; Kennedy 3. 🤣 Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2 #14
She only does Iowa Deminpenn Nov 2 #18
Thank you! Jmb 4 Harris-Walz Nov 2 #35
Because she runs the poll for the Des Moines Register, and Iowa is all she does. Volaris Nov 3 #41
Maybe dominos are gonna start falling...... lastlib Nov 2 #15
Never never never let up James48 Nov 2 #16
I hope so and believe so, too. notroot Nov 2 #17
Yup, it's the vote counting and certification we need to worry about. Joinfortmill Nov 2 #20
Keep. On. Pushing. Ramming Speed. DinahMoeHum Nov 2 #21
I bet donOLD is having his team plan a trip tomorrow to Iowa for a rally ASAP kimbutgar Nov 2 #25
My gut feeling hasn't changed since she came on the scene. LilElf70 Nov 2 #27
Kamala really represents COL Mustard Nov 2 #29
I hope so. Groundhawg Nov 2 #30
Based on the interview with Selzer mchill Nov 2 #31
I've heard from a couple different, unrelated people Deminpenn Nov 2 #38
Welcome to DU!!! bdamomma Nov 2 #32
Vote! Askov_Finlyson Nov 2 #33
I remember when Obama won Iowa Dem4life1234 Nov 2 #34
Yes. She. Is. ThePartyThatListens Nov 2 #36
The latest twists in the corporate media narrative give me reason to be confident Rocknation Nov 2 #37
Agreed. Texasgal Nov 2 #39
Remember on Wednesday when you encounter an upset MAGAT, tell them Emile Nov 3 #48

Butterflylady

(4,011 posts)
2. I have said that from the beginning
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:49 PM
Nov 2

When I said the Supreme Court just gave us the win in this election. When they ruled that abortion was overturned.

Johnny2X2X

(21,907 posts)
3. She won't win Iowa
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 06:52 PM
Nov 2

But that poll is a sign of her late surge. She is winning late deciders by a large margin.

Johnny2X2X

(21,907 posts)
10. Would be amazing.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:39 PM
Nov 2

It I think the bigger picture is this is a sign she is finishing strong and Trump is floundering. This predicts a landslide.

paleotn

(19,617 posts)
13. Dems have out performed their polling in recent cycles.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:53 PM
Nov 2

And dipshit has done everything he could to f himself the last 2 weeks. Going to be really interesting.

calimary

(84,712 posts)
19. Welcome to DU, MannyS!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:15 PM
Nov 2

Hey, it's certainly worth keeping in mind, while we're all keeping our fingers crossed!

lees1975

(6,133 posts)
40. The poll reflects all Iowa voters, not just the late deciders.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:06 PM
Nov 2

A three point lead in that poll three days before the election is a pretty sure thing.

MadameButterfly

(2,049 posts)
45. Hey, either the poll is good or it isn't
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:49 AM
Nov 3

If it's good, she wins Iowa. And if she wins Iowa, she wins.

mchill

(1,101 posts)
47. The last thing this poll is about is winning Iowa imho
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 06:32 AM
Nov 3

Trump could still win Iowa (still very close). This poll is indicative of a new electorate, mostly women (based on the pollster’s words) coming out to vote Harris. This is likely due to the strict abortion laws instituted in Iowa last summer. The consequences of these laws are sinking in. Think Texas, Florida, or anywhere else a futuristic electorate, as she called it, might not being polled properly. If these pollsters are using a sample based on would be Trump voters or would be Kamala voters of 2016 and 2020, it only exaggerates what took place in the past (either direction). I assume she means new likely voters and mostly women are not being sampled properly in 2024 by other pollsters. The Emerson poll in Iowa has Trump +10 as an example. (I also was just reading a Nate Silver article that so many polls falling so closely together is beyond the odds, and Emerson Poll is near the top in what he calls “herding”— the tendency of some polling firms to move with the flock by file-drawering (not publishing) results that don’t match the consensus or torturing their turnout models. ) Selzer is consistently ranked as an A+ pollster by FiveThirtyEight. She also mentioned the shock factor of seeing this result and resisting the inclination not to trust and sticking with the methodology (highly paraphrased).

MadameButterfly

(2,049 posts)
46. If anyone stays home over the polls they are nuts but
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 04:50 AM
Nov 3

the rest of us need some peace of mind as we approach results that will spell hope or armageddon.

William Seger

(11,123 posts)
7. Kamala has regained the lead in the betting markets, too
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:26 PM
Nov 2

They went nutty for a while when DonOld starting recovering in the polls, but I expect that a LOT of people are getting a whiff of what's about to happen!

Dave Bowman

(3,935 posts)
22. "DonOld"
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:35 PM
Nov 2

I really like that nickname. The other day someone came up with Pedonnie, that totally cracked me up.

William Seger

(11,123 posts)
24. Probably should be "The DonOld"
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:44 PM
Nov 2

I don't remember now who it was, but someone suggested that name because of the way he pronounces KaMala. My new favorite nickname, courtesy of Jimmy Kimmel, is Martin Luther Burger King.

Jack Valentino

(1,515 posts)
43. I have been doing my best to cite "DonOLD" for a long while...
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:30 AM
Nov 3

since Joe withdrew from the race mostly over doubts about his age,
it seems only fair to point out who is the oldest candidate ever going into a general election

oldmanlynn

(521 posts)
8. If you look at the early voting data that's coming out of the different states
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:27 PM
Nov 2

The fact that Democrats were doing very well in Iowa was abundantly clear so this was something that we saw several days ago

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/iowa-results

Jack Valentino

(1,515 posts)
44. Thanks for posting this link to Iowa early voting!--- other than the Register poll,
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 12:35 AM
Nov 3

I had seen no 'hard info' about Iowa---

the Democratic and Republican early voting there are nearly even,
but Kamala ought to be winning the independents,
especially with more youthful voters avoiding registering by party---

I think this "surprise" is all answered by the Dobbs decision!!!!

I think we can win there!
https://democraticunderground.com/100219645094

Jmb 4 Harris-Walz

(1,049 posts)
12. Ok, so this is a highly respected poll in Iowa, that I get. Does this Ann Selzer have polls for other states?
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 07:48 PM
Nov 2

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I can only find results for Iowa. Why poll for only one state?

Deminpenn

(16,360 posts)
18. She only does Iowa
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:11 PM
Nov 2

There are state specific pollsters. In PA, Franklin and Marshall College and Muhlenberg College only poll the state. These are the best pollsters because they know their state the best, how to poll it and how to interpret the results.

James48

(4,620 posts)
16. Never never never let up
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:10 PM
Nov 2

Keep going. Talk to others. Drive someone to the polls.

It’s not over until the Electoral Ballits are counted and registered in Congress.


I would love nothing more than a big blue wave blowout- but there is no data that suggests we can let up.

DinahMoeHum

(22,531 posts)
21. Keep. On. Pushing. Ramming Speed.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:18 PM
Nov 2

then brace yourselves for the next 76 days, because Trump will NOT concede no matter what.
Cut him off at every turn.

LilElf70

(578 posts)
27. My gut feeling hasn't changed since she came on the scene.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 08:53 PM
Nov 2

Kamala!!!! Bigly win. Not to mention the the con man has made his point of view less attractive on a daily basis.

As far as I'm concerned, it's over. Has been for months.

I give Joe Biden full credit for saving our democracy, AGAIN!!!!!

mchill

(1,101 posts)
31. Based on the interview with Selzer
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:03 PM
Nov 2

She suggested that some of the other pollsters in Iowa and other states are using an electorate similar to 2016 and 2020. In her pool, they discovered since September they had to add new respondents because there were definitely new voters and the new voters all went to Harris. She suggested that was a reaction to the restrictive abortion law that came into effect this last summer and Iowa’s are starting to see the consequence. She said women over 65 were voting three to one for Harris. I think this bodes very well for other swing states that have archaic abortion laws. Texas comes to my mind first. It’s already very close. Florida perhaps. And what’s going on in Georgia with abortion laws? (Assuming those pollsters haven’t adjusted their sample based on a future electorate rather than a past electorate.)

Deminpenn

(16,360 posts)
38. I've heard from a couple different, unrelated people
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:59 PM
Nov 2

who have spoken to or had conversations with people in my western PA county, that there are "quiet" Harris voters here. The LV models might not be capturing them.

bdamomma

(66,759 posts)
32. Welcome to DU!!!
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 09:08 PM
Nov 2

We need a landsllde, to bury him good. But he is shoveling to his base, that he is ahead in the polls, and that he is winning. The next 76 days will be hell in the country until Jan. 20th.

If you want to hear what Steven Schmidt ? ( I'm not quite sure) said on MSNBC, listen to Randi Rhodes Podcast from 31st October, which is posted on Liberal You Tubers at 1:00:39.

Rocknation

(44,885 posts)
37. The latest twists in the corporate media narrative give me reason to be confident
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 10:55 PM
Nov 2

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that Kamala has already won.

Why? Because of: The LA Times and USA Today refusing to endorse either candidate. The New York Times and the gaggle of celebrities not endorsing Kamala until this late date. Trump ratcheting up his cognitive decline as if he's hoping that losing the election would help him win a legal ruling of being too incompetent to stand trial or be sentenced on his upcoming court cases. "Shock! Bombshell!" reports of how Florida, Texas, North Carolina, and even Kansas might be turning purple. And now this "hysteria" over the Ann Selzer Iowa poll -- if she's among the most highly respected of pollsters, how come the public has never heard of her before?

I think it's all the result of being unable to endorse DuhDon without coming out of it looking like an even bigger loser than he is (or a possible accomplice to his crimes); or wanting to appear to have been on Kamala's side "all along" once she wins.


Rocknation

Texasgal

(17,165 posts)
39. Agreed.
Sat Nov 2, 2024, 11:00 PM
Nov 2

I felt a bit worried for a while, but as things have started moving closer, it's clear. She WILL win.

Emile

(31,010 posts)
48. Remember on Wednesday when you encounter an upset MAGAT, tell them
Sun Nov 3, 2024, 06:41 AM
Nov 3

you voted with the MAJORITY.

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