'Exasperated': Insiders say 'crazy' Trump antics have allies wondering if he wants to lose

[Lunabell]

Former President Donald Trump's "crazy" outbursts and "not-normal" rhetoric have Republican supporters wondering if he wants to lose on Nov. 5, according to a new CNN report.

Political reporter Kristen Holmes told CNN Sunday that Trump's allies are infuriated over campaign trail antics that include encouraging shooters and suggestive pantomime with a microphone.

"I talk to allies who are exasperated," Holmes said. "These allies are incredibly frustrated about the language he is using on the campaign trail, the darkness of the rhetoric."


I think he doesn't want to win. I believe he thinks he won't go to prison and if he loses, he can continue the grift! He can claim the election was stolen, his marks will send him money, he will sell all sorts of cheap Chinese magat merchandise and make lots of bank. If he wins, he won't be able to con any more money from the gullible. Just my own opinion.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-campaign-rhetoric-2669569350/

[OAITW r.2.0]

1. He wants out of his reality.

Whatever the motivation was in 2015, it's not the same in 2024.

He's screwed if he loses. And I don't think it's going to be close enough to steal.

[edhopper]

3. His motivation

Is stay out of jail.

[Mz Pip]

15. A lot of us want out

out of this reality. Nothing makes sense anymore.

[33taw]

36. I would be surprised if he was given a jail sentence. The felonies are low and do not involve physical injury.

Do I think he has committed worse felonies - of course, but based on this conviction - he is a first time offender and 78 years old. Whatever he medical issues are will come up in a pre-sentence report. I just don't see him serving any time in jail.

[JoseBalow]

45. 34 felonies... 34

He's going to prison.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10,
11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20,
21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30,
31, 32, 33, 34

[33taw]

47. You might be right. But I will be shocked. Without seeing the PSI - we are only guessing.

[North Coast Lawyer]

49. Jail not Prison

Some time in local custody (i.e. the local jail not state prison) can be a term of felony probation. If I were the judge I'd include 90 to 120 days jail as part of his probation.

[33taw]

50. Yes, I am aware of what the penalties can be. I do not believe he will get jail or prison time.

If he gets anything harsher than home confinement I will be shocked.

[EndlessWire]

54. Okay by me.

I think that whatever Judge Merchan gives him will be fair. But, that Judge has taken a lot of crap from Trump, and if the jail door swings shut on Trump's doughy ass, he'll deserve it. The only question is where he will serve, and I don't see any reason to give him a cushy spot at MAL. I believe there would be a problem with that, anyway.

Meanwhile, if he gets probation, we can search his properties without a search warrant. Only a rep from the probation department needs to be present. We can search for missing documents--or the Florida gun he still has. That might even be better than him going to jail for a few months.

So, I'm content either way. If Jack misses his opportunities, at least we'll know that they were there. (And yeah, since Ivana is buried on his property, we should dig her up and check for contraband. I don't think there is any, but we could do it.)

[JHB]

2. Or perhaps that should be phrased "he thinks winning is too much work"

TFHM ("that f-ing howler monkey" (despite my efforts to popularize it, I think I'm still the only one who refers to him that way) is the poster blob for laziness.

[OAITW r.2.0]

5. +1 for the ("that f-ing howler monkey")

Does the "f-ing" mean "fighting?

[JHB]

12. Do a simple word association excercise:

a) Trump: fighter
b) Trump: A Big League chickenshit. The bigliest chickenshit.

We both know the correct answer.

[JHB]

13. Howler monkeys are orange, make loud, vulgar noises, and...

...piss on anyone they see below them.

It's obvious. Bill Mahar got the wrong primate.

[Collimator]

38. ". . . the poster blob for laziness."

Now, that one I would like to see go viral.

[vapor2]

4. Good point and maybe a possibility

I am appalled at his rhetoric on shooting people and his supporters just laugh like he is kidding. Willing to bet everything that he is not kidding. He has so much hatred in his heart and amazing he is even allowed to run with 34 felonies.

[Tree Lady]

7. I agree a possibility

he may think after documents case went away and supremes helping him, he will never see jail.

He made his money on the media site he started, he will sell and golf he thinks for rest of life.

[-misanthroptimist]

27. Giving the benefit of doubt...

...there are some jokes and comments that leaders must forego. It's the price of sitting at the head of the table. IRL, I have a very quick (and frequently sarcastic) wit which I unleash at every opportunity. That wit took time off on those few occasions when I was in charge of some group or organization since it would be inappropriate and counter-productive. And I wasn't in charge of anything even a tiny fraction as important as the Executive Branch of the US government.

[Quixote1818]

6. No, the dementia is causing his filters to deteriorate

We are seeing deeper inside his real soul. He's also in a bubble with people telling him he's doing great and the polls are not getting worse so he thinks he's speaking to like minded people.

[Attilatheblond]

9. Thinking that, filters failing due to dementia, AND perhaps toddler snit fits at being told what to do by campaign

Easy to imagine him bristling at being told what to do and when to do it. The fact that he can't seem to EVER be on time seems pretty passive/aggressive response to scheduling.

[Random Boomer]

20. This seems so obvious

Every time anyone -- Dem or Republican -- starts this guessing game of "What is he up to?" I just shake my head. HIS BRAIN IS MELTING! These "odd" behaviors are not odd, they're obvious symptoms of his deteriorating condition.

If your grandfather was acting this way, you'd be concerned about his mental health. You'd take away his car keys and make an appointment with his doctor.

Trump, however, is just allowed to wander around and go up on stage and give interviews because so many grifters depend on him. No one (understandably) cares enough about him to get him the help (and the padded room) that he needs.

The stress of losing to Harris -- a black woman who is not frightened of him -- should tip Trump right over the edge. There may not be enough of him left to spearhead an insurrection. Fingers crossed....

[missaj]

8. I don't believe this.

DT enjoys winning and humiliating people. He doesn't have to care anymore because he knows his cult will vote for him no matter what he says.

[MMBeilis]

10. SNL had him saying "I'm running out of gas, I'm running on fumes. Make it stop".

[Dem4life1970]

11. I think this is spot on...

...and this was supposed to be what happened in 2016, except, he won. The sick, sad thing is that the whole
Trump for President 2016 was simply a branding exercise that went wrong. He was supposed to lose, then make Trump TV or build his Trump Tower in Russia, but he would have raised his profile so much he would be able to start the next level grift (which he did from inside the White House for 4 years). This man had no intention of being President and governing. He is not a Republican. He got pissed off at the W.H. Correspondents' Dinner when Obama roasted him mercilessly and his very fragile ego couldn't take it. The racism is a key part of who he is, as his love for birtherism preceded that of course. His only miscalculation was that he thought that maybe the GOP was made up of people who would draw the line at his awful comments in 2015-2016, but it only made him more popular with the Pre-MAGA base. They loved the racism and the misogyny, couldn't get enough of it, so he kept winning GOP primaries. Seriously, I have always wondered in the back of my mind if this whole thing was simply a branding exercise that went wrong....and America and the world have suffered because of it. Time to turn the page. Vote! Yes, we voted him out in 2020, but as someone said, sometimes you have to flush twice.

[Botany]

26. "The racism is a key part ...."

Always has been that way nothing could have been more racist then his President Obama
isn’t a real American but a Nigerian even though his birth certificate was published in 3
Hawaiian newspapers.

[Algernon Moncrieff]

14. The "crazy outbursts" are attention-getters

That's always been the case, and the media takes the bait every time.

But as to no jail/ continue the grift: very possibly true. Obviously if he wins, he's going to self pardon and, frankly, the rule -of-law will have ended at that point anyway. But if he loses, there will be a lot of pressure on Biden and Harris to "close the book" and offer Trump either pardons or prison-free clemency. My guess is that they'll cave; Kemp will drop the Georgia charges; and New York will, at worst, give him House Arrest. So yes, Don and Mike and Rudy will all be there on Trump TV /Newsmax/FAUX hawking pictures books,NFTs, gold, crypto - you name it.

[Midnight Writer]

16. He is a baby throwing a tantrum to get his way.

When the baby is frustrated, his tantrums grow wilder and louder.

He knows he is not getting his way. The narcissist is being told women don't like him. His reaction is to lash out.

[Kaleva]

17. I thought that he didn't really want to win in 2016

He was in it for the grift.

[speak easy]

19. And I think you are exactly on the money.

His endgame was to say the election was stolen and to present himself as the (rightful) President of the United States from then on.

[Kaleva]

22. And make a lot of money from that

Books, speaking engagements, selling of merchandise and so on.

The right hates Hillary and he would have capitalized on that for his own financial gain

[speak easy]

24. and he would have been happier that way.

[Kaleva]

25. He would have avoided almost all of his legal problems

[Clouds Passing]

18. As somebody famous said "You gotta dance with who brung ya"

The Rs made their choice, stuck with it and quadrupled down. They own it, they own the Dumpster.

[somaticexperiencing]

21. He is a loser. This is how losers act. They lose and then they whine and complain and say it was rigged.

[Botany]

23. "suggestive pantomime with a microphone"

Please! He acted like it was a dick and gave it a hand job and then simulated sucking it off.

If any Democrat had done that it would up front 24/7 on cable news shows and newspapers
would have banner headlines about a democrat leader crosses the line with sexually explicit
actions.

Liberal Media =

[yardwork]

28. This is who Trump is. It's only bothering them now because he's losing.

[Jit423]

29. If they think that Trump wants to lose, they should accommodate him and vote for Harris.

MAGAs always give Trump what he wants.

[ToxMarz]

30. Maybe he thinks (not entirely without merit) that the enemy within is really his "within" circle.

Musk, Theil, Vance et al. no longer need their vessel, in fact he's likely an impediment to their own agenda.

25th Amendment, or worse

Buh bye!

[Orrex]

31. Finally he and I have something in common

Of course, I also wish that he'd drown in a vat of hot liquid pig shit, but one thing at a time.

[newdeal2]

32. I'm tired of these people / stories with unnamed sources

They are cowards who are hedging because he is losing. If he’s winning or they get a call to join the Trump 2028 campaign they will be all in again.

[struggle4progress]

33. "It's not gibberish! It's my brilliant weave! You just aren't smart enough to see it!"

[Magoo48]

37. The weave sounds a lot like someone with a load of coke and a fifth of scotch on board.

Or, what ever convocation he’s using now.

[louis-t]

34. No, he doesn't want to lose. He can't control his deep insecurities

and hatred of anyone not rich and white. He is not in control of himself. He's not even in control of his bodily functions. Shits himself on a daily basis. Deeply, deeply mentally disturbed.

[hay rick]

35. He is acting like he doesn't want to win.

I think he is psychologically beyond the point of being able to create or even recognize a viable plan and act within the confines of that plan. The easy rationalization for him is that he has a "clever" Plan B to steal the election so he doesn't have to engage in the charade of disciplined campaigning. I think much of the behavior we are seeing is a reflection of his resentment of his need to avoid alienating his allies and campaign professionals.

[mdbl]

39. NO, he wants to win looking as loony and crazy as possible

so no one will wonder why he's going to finish ruining our country

[Hieronymus Phact]

40. I think its deeper than all that

It reflects his need to push boundaries in his constant quest for dominance, and to test the limits of what he can get a way with in any situation. Domination in this case means rewriting the rules on acceptable campaign speeches. He loves when he does something outrageous and gets away with it. Like desecrating Arlington National Cemetery. He totally got away with it and that's the dominance part. So it's on to the next boundary to test: ultimate vulgarity and violent messaging. He simply can't help himself. Like a child that was warned 10 times to stop playing with the fine china, but won't stop doing it until he gets a spanking.

He's compelled to do this because he's not dominating and he knows it. He's not even dominating his own rallies when people are leaving in streams. To get that dominance back he needs to do something to make them stay, so maybe they'll stay to see the next awful thing he does. He dominates by changing their behavior but it's not working. If it wasn't vulgarity it would be some other thing, but i think that's the only tool within reach for him to satisfy himself at the moment.

[debm55]

41. Oh he wants to win, ot will kee[ him out of jail where he belongs. I think it's an act so he doesn't go to jail.

[TRHST82]

42. "I think Trump wants to lose!" is giving me 2016 flashbacks.

But this feels like a different election for the most part.

[Kid Berwyn]

43. Demonstrating how to give head in public went too far?

OK. So now I wonder how they feel about Trump and Putin talking in secret?

[Javaman]

46. his hubris is what drives him. he believes his own bullshit and only sees what he wants to see.

it's all image to him and he believes if he keeps doing the same shit he did in 2016, it will win him back in.

aka he's fucking delusional.

[twodogsbarking]

48. His spawn will take it hard, and Jared of course. The children always suffer.

[iemanja]

51. I don't think he can help himself

He's too unhinged.

[uponit7771]

52. The face eating alien is eating their face !!!

[Hassler]

53. He's cracking under the pressure. All his

Criming has finally caught up with him and he can't handle it.

[drmeow]

55. I think there is a part of him

that is really looking forward to the violence. It is not so much that he doesn't care or wants to lose but he wants there to be violence no matter what. If he wins, he gets to perpetrate the violence. If he loses, he gets his supporters to. The dementia is removing any filters on his tongue and he enraged - HOW DARE he be held accountable for his actions. Heads will roll and he wants to see a (as he puts it) blood bath.