Meet the conservative women who are keeping their votes for Kamala Harris a secret

[Nevilledog]

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/03/nx-s1-5159978/republicans-for-harris-women-voters-secret-votes-quiet-voters-2024-election-trump

In political ads and campaign speeches, supporters of Vice President Harris have a message for Republican women: Your vote is private, and no one will know if you secretly vote for Harris.

“No one gets to know how you're going to vote,” Democratic Rep. Elissa Slotkin said last week during a campaign stop in Michigan. “No one gets to check it. It's not available online. Right? Your vote is your choice. You don't have to tell anyone.” Slotkin, who’s running for Senate, was campaigning with former Republican Rep. Liz Cheney, who’s also crossed the aisle to endorse Harris.

Their message is aimed at conservative-leaning women like T, whom we’re calling by her first initial. T, who is in her 60s and lives in Wisconsin, asked for anonymity to discuss how living in a politically divided household is affecting her marriage of more than 40 years.

“He’s frustrated with me that I won’t listen to him plead his case. I can’t and I won’t,” she explained.

T says she mailed her absentee ballot from another family member’s home to avoid a confrontation with her husband over her support for Harris.

“It’s not that he would ever stop me or anything, it’s just I just can’t deal with that animosity,” she said with an audible sigh.

*snip*

[North Shore Chicago]

1. The MAGAT men

are so loathsome and controlling.

[no_hypocrisy]

2. Dammit! Why can't republican women be more like

Martha Mitchell, Millicent Fenwick, or even Clare Booth Luce?

[irisblue]

5. Martha Mitchell was beaten up for her outspokeness

From her wiki page...
"In the first of many interviews, Mitchell related how in the week following the Watergate burglary, she had been held captive in that California hotel and it was King who had pulled the phone cord from the wall.[18][20] After several attempts to escape from the balcony, she was physically accosted by five men and was left needing stitches.[21][22][20] Herbert W. Kalmbach, Nixon's personal lawyer, was summoned to the hotel and he decided to call for a doctor to inject her with a tranquilizer.[16][20] The incident left her fearing for her life.[23]


Her story is sad in my opinion

[liberalla]

21. It is sad. It was hard to watch in "Gaslit", the tv show about her and the events.

About 8 episodes IIRC. Stars Julia Roberts... worth a watch IMO.

[SheltieLover]

13. Because imo, magat women have zero self-respect and they are trauma bonded to their abusers

Sad, but true.

[Beartracks]

27. Why can't a woman be more like a man?

Humorously quoting a song from My Fair Lady here.

But hey, aren't MAGAs the ones who constantly make lots of noise about how MEN and WOMEN are completely DIFFERENT?

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[ProudMNDemocrat]

3. DonOLD tRump did this to American families...

Even women are finally waking up to it!

I kept opining that since the overturning of Roe v. Wade, they are seeing, hearing, and reading the stories coming from other women who are experiencing horrible situations all for the cause of "protecting the unborn" when the unborn are part of the reason women are dying and being denied care, that women would rise up and scream "NO MORE!" .

Even Conservative women have daughters and Granddaughters who just might be one of those stories we all read about and shudder at the thought of such a tragedy happening to them.

[SheltieLover]

12. It's even forced them into a state of having independent thoughts which differ from their abusers! :-0

[NoMoreRepugs]

4. How in the world did Republicans think overturning ROE was going to help them gain absolute power??

[nature-lover]

6. It was a mistake. They should have keep ROE and used it as an election issue like they had for years.

[CrispyQ]

7. Because women are basically mindless twits more interested in fashion & movie stars & shopping than politics.

We should have forgotten all this by now.

Also, they weren't counting on repub women revolting. I think those women themselves, didn't get what they thought they'd get with the reversal of Roe. I'm pissed they couldn't logically see what anti-abortion laws would lead to but I'm grateful they seem to finally be waking up.

[orthoclad]

9. They were counting on the famous short attention span in the US

That's why they did it so early in the cycle. But they don't realize the deep fear and anxiety that women can feel when they lose control of their very body. It won't go away.

[SheltieLover]

10. Boggles the mind, doesn't it?

[andym]

11. Coddling the religious right has it's downsides

once they succeeded in packing the Supreme Court.

[ShazzieB]

20. I think the SCOTUS conservatives got ahead of themselves,

After all the years Roe had been in effect, they finally saw a chance to overturn it, and I think they got so excited that they didn't stop to consider all of the ramifications.

I really do think the strong negative reaction to the Dobbs decision took them by surprise, as obvious as it was to the rest of us. The six are all evidently "pro-lifers," and sometimes people like that are so sure that their position is the only morally "right" one that they close their eyes and ears to the fact that many, nany people do not share that view.

I think they were so overconfident and so overly pleased with themselves about getting to be the ones to do this thing that they knew was going to be historic that it never occurred to them that it was also going to be historically unpopular. What's that old saying? Oh yeah - "Pride goeth before a fall."

[Torchlight]

25. Only a guess, but I think the GOP vastly over-estimated American complacency.

I think they just got too goal-oriented at the expense of process, and simply ignored or rationalized anything that didn't validate the plan; the GOP simply went a bridge too far on this one and never thought about their flanks as they moved forward.

[Coexist]

8. "And as I was filling in that rectangle it was like, 'Hell yeah, girl. You did something so powerful for yourself'

“And as I was filling in that rectangle it was like, ‘Hell yeah, girl. You did something so powerful for yourself, and for a lot of women,” she said.

[kimbutgar]

14. My sister in law lives in a divided household

Her and her husband barely talk now. He is a die hard maga and she’s a liberal. I feel so bad for her.

My husband and I are on the same page and are looking forward to President Harris!

[progressoid]

16. Hopefully they can reconcile?

It happens in right wing families too. I know someone who is an old school republican but his wife is a MAGAt. He actually voted for Hillary in 2016 but didn't tell her. She still believes in his bullshit - although she hasn't been as vocal about it lately.t has been a tough decade for him.

[Magoo48]

15. I think there may be a thin silver-lining here for culturally oppressed women.

[Hekate]

17. May I comment to the thread about peace in the house?

Not every woman who disagrees w hubby is abused.

In the past I’ve known several women in long lasting marriages who quietly register Dem or Independent, and just try to maintain a boundary regarding politics at home. They may roll their eyes with girlfriends — leave the room when the TV goes on — make placating noises. But they’re fine. Hubby has an annoying habit, like belching.

Marriages have lots of compromises.

Now, a partner who goes full MAGA is actually dangerous, but I am speaking here of normal people.

[XanaDUer2]

18. Fuck you sir

You're disgusting

[IronLionZion]

19. The end of this Daily Show clip shows several of these ads

Trump Climbs Into a Garbage Truck & Harris Gets Her Campaign Into Women’s Bathrooms | The Daily Show

[wryter2000]

22. I was so blessed

I could have trusted my husband to fill out my ballot. He used to mute the TV whenever W came on so I wouldn’t have to hear him.

[John Farmer]

23. I used to see couples going into the voting booth to vote together.

Which was/is still legal in NC, apparently.

I worried that somebody was being supervised.

I haven't seen that so much now that they've moved to machine-marked paper ballots.

[SoFlaBro]

24. MAGA men are fucked up total scumbags and lowlife, violent motherfuckers towards women only. Fucking cowards.

[dchill]

26. "...I just can't deal with that animosity..."

So revealing. So exactly right.