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Just had a moment of rage. (Original Post) Girard442 Nov 4 OP
Gawd, no kidding! Sky Jewels Nov 4 #1
9? jfz9580m Nov 4 #12
Yes, Sky Jewels Nov 5 #14
Me too. dchill Nov 4 #2
No kidding! North Shore Chicago Nov 4 #3
With ya orthoclad Nov 4 #4
It's worse MacDo Nov 4 #5
I know how you feel. TSExile Nov 4 #13
Not many people in my life. multigraincracker Nov 4 #6
Hoping it ends tomorrow, or a few days later. Silent Type Nov 4 #7
Understand. Cruelty is THE POINT, not just the means. usonian Nov 4 #8
Yes, since Reagan orthoclad Nov 4 #11
Sometimes we all have to slosh through the muck askyagerz Nov 4 #9
Nazi zombies LiberaBlueDem Nov 4 #10
Self-deleted Blue_Roses Nov 5 #15
Several years ago, Bill Clinton said something Blue_Roses Nov 5 #16

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
12. 9?
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 11:02 PM
Nov 4

Oh you must mean from the time Trump announced his candidacy..
I considered the Kerry election already dire on account of the Iraq war and climate change. But every election since has gotten even more surreal and scary.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
4. With ya
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:14 PM
Nov 4

I try to point out the endless manipulation they experience, but manipulation works on those ready for it.

We're gonna need a new Reconstruction. And not call it off for some back-room deal like the first one.

TSExile

(3,363 posts)
13. I know how you feel.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 11:07 PM
Nov 4

I wouldn't say my immediately family is MAGA, but they are definitely on the opposite side of me. It is lonely.

usonian

(14,847 posts)
8. Understand. Cruelty is THE POINT, not just the means.
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:21 PM
Nov 4

I got an insight, which may not be unique to me, but I hadn’t read it, that

Cults “legitimize” some societally unacceptable behavior, such as hate, violence, racism, misogyny theft, and so on
In exchange, cult members lose their souls/identity to that of the group.

Lots more, but I want to share that here.
Yes, they made me learn cult and deviant psychology, in an amateur way.

I can’t say that understanding makes it any easier to deal with, but it does compartmentalize the rage, and

YES, THEY ARE SICK, driven by 24 by 7 by 365 brainwashing that hits some pain point to get them started, and

It’s all downhill from there on.

Recovery is painful. Similar to addiction.

orthoclad

(4,728 posts)
11. Yes, since Reagan
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:52 PM
Nov 4

the airwaves have been dominated by right-wing propaganda. Drive time talk radio is very effective at brainwashing. Rage and fear are addictive, it becomes a feedback loop.

It's easy to fall into the trap. Then they get sneered at, which only confirms their bias. Hate the sin, love the sinner takes an AWFUL lot of patience. More than I can often bring to bear.

askyagerz

(901 posts)
9. Sometimes we all have to slosh through the muck
Mon Nov 4, 2024, 08:26 PM
Nov 4

To really appreciate something like Democracy.
Just look at your MAGA family and friends as useful idiots for fates bigger purposes.
As far as we know Trump's extremism might have moved the whole country to the left for all of these kid's future. I know I am for sure interested in what direction the GOP goes post Trump. When you have Liz Cheney talking about extreme abortion bans the goalposts may very well have moved

Blue_Roses

(13,456 posts)
16. Several years ago, Bill Clinton said something
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:24 AM
Nov 5

on David Letterman that stuck with me. He said, "Republicans love power and they know how to get it."

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