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a kennedy

(32,416 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:47 PM Nov 5

Ok, does this feel like 2008??? A couple talking heads have mentioned that it does.....

I don’t remember then or even 2020 really. I do remember 2016 tho pretty well. I was so upbeat, wet to bed think Hillary had it in the bag, and then wake up to the orange piece of sheet for four damn years AND more. He has just got to be beaten AND BY HIGE NUMBERS so there’s no doubt who wins!!!!!!

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CousinIT

(10,540 posts)
1. Yea...it does seem like 2008. Lots of energy and Dem yard signs plastered in my 'hood ...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:50 PM
Nov 5

... BUT, 2016 happened, polls have been fucked for a decade or more, the goddamned electoral college still exists, and goddamned Trump is still a 34-count felon trying anything to keep his own ass out of prison.

Soo.....

Lulu KC

(5,108 posts)
3. 2008 was Obama's first win
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:51 PM
Nov 5

It was glorious. We should all make a point of remembering the glow. It's good for our health.

bdamomma

(66,759 posts)
12. It really does
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:36 PM
Nov 5

feel hopeful, like 2008 when that fabulous family (the Obamas) were elected in record numbers. It was just beautiful. I thought at that time we were finally there. He was elected for a second time too. And he chose our Joe to be his VP, very competent hands.

Fast forward to now, this has the same feel. I think we owe to ourselves. And I thank President Biden for his steady hand at the helm to steer this country from the brink of disaster which was from the last regime to what it is today.

When we fight we win, and never underestimate the power of voting!!!!!

FreeState

(10,701 posts)
4. Yep in many ways
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 5

I dont see as much support in the neighborhood here as before (there were people with Obama posters in their windows etc.) However everyone is talking about it and hopeful.

We even have Gay Marriage on the ballot in CA again like in 2008 (this time to enshrine it in the constitution rather than take it away).

Renew Deal

(83,148 posts)
5. We knew we were going to win in 2008.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 03:52 PM
Nov 5

This feels like bigger risk and reward. There's a chance it's close or that Kamala hits 380 EV's.

EnergizedLib

(2,248 posts)
6. It's all in the turnout
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:05 PM
Nov 5

If reports I’m seeing on Twitter are true about high turnout, we’re likely saying Madam President.


If turnout is low, we can probably start preparing this country’s funeral.

lees1975

(6,133 posts)
7. It does feel like that a little bit, though I can't recall when there were so many Democrats involved in the ground game
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:10 PM
Nov 5

Obama had a lot in 2008. In 2012, we lived in Pennsylvania, and were visited by canvassers three times. In 2016, no one.

uponit7771

(92,099 posts)
9. Yes, McCain stopped SERIOUSLY campaigning a week earlier and GQP focused on down ballots cause they knew they were
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:13 PM
Nov 5

... going to be mud stomped

Zambero

(9,785 posts)
11. By then Palin had become a huge liability for the ticket
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:23 PM
Nov 5

We should "thank" Steve Schmidt for pulling strings to get her onto the ticket, although these days he perceives things a bit differently!

maxsolomon

(35,411 posts)
10. No, it doesn't feel like 2008. It feels like 2020.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:17 PM
Nov 5

Like I can't believe this is even a contest. Like half the nation has lost their fucking minds.

Self Esteem

(1,797 posts)
13. No. Maybe 2012 but definitely doesn't feel like 2008.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:46 PM
Nov 5

2008 was a landslide where Democrats dwarfed Republicans in enthusiasm. In 2008, Democrats had a 15 point edge in enthusiasm. It's 10 right now (one-point better than 2020).

Obama's win was not only inevitable, most expected that it wouldn't be close.

Tonight will be close.

The question is whether it's 2020 close (or closer) or 2012 close.

Lulu KC

(5,108 posts)
17. Is that the pall you are bearing?
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 04:50 PM
Nov 5

I'm finding that an interesting choice of names. Welcome to DU!

Blasphemer

(3,291 posts)
20. Not really....
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 05:20 PM
Nov 5

In 2008, EVERYONE knew that the winner of the Democratic primary would win the presidency. Bush and the GOP had abysmal approval ratings. I was not remotely stressed out. The night Obama won, it was like New Year's Eve (I was in San Francisco at the time). Also, the country was much more aligned in 2008. Trump changed everything for the worse. If not for Trump and the MAGA movement, this would be like 2008, but it's not. The race is much closer than it should be (even taking into account polling overcorrection for Trump voters), immigration is more of a hot button issue, and it will likely not be settled tonight. In 2008, most Americans could appreciate the significance of Obama's victory even if they didn't vote for him. That will not be the case in 2024.

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