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Dennis Donovan

(29,658 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:36 PM Nov 2024

PoliticsGirl: When we get through this we need to address the electoral college

PoliticsGirl
When we get through this we need to address the electoral college. This election should never have been close and it only is because of this archaic and anti-democratic system.
6:32 PM · Nov 5, 2024


Never happen, but it *is* anti-democratic.



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PoliticsGirl: When we get through this we need to address the electoral college (Original Post) Dennis Donovan Nov 2024 OP
TY 🕯️🕊️⭐️💙🌊🌊🌊🇺🇸🌈 Cha Nov 2024 #1
Sure, just tell us exactly how you're going to get that done. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #2
How to change? Dumpy Nov 2024 #5
Won't pass. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #6
Too many assumptions Roxi Nov 2024 #9
A system put together to placate slave owners... Botany Nov 2024 #3
Absofuckingloutely! SheltieLover Nov 2024 #4
They'll never ever ever get rid of it RealFloridaDem Nov 2024 #7
Yes, indeed wendyb-NC Nov 2024 #8
It's anti-democratic because it was intended to be anti-democratic. TwilightZone Nov 2024 #10
Republican-controlled states would never ratify. J_William_Ryan Nov 2024 #11
Yes! Blue_Roses Nov 2024 #12

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
2. Sure, just tell us exactly how you're going to get that done.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:40 PM
Nov 2024

"This election never should have been close"

Even if we weren't using the EC, this election would have been close all along. The poll aggregates have it essentially tied.

It would be ironic if Harris wins the EC, but loses the popular vote, though I don't expect that to happen.

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
6. Won't pass.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:44 PM
Nov 2024

Not enough votes in Congress, and Republican legislatures in the states have no reason to agree to the change because it gives them an inherent advantage.

Roxi

(2,176 posts)
9. Too many assumptions
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:46 PM
Nov 2024

The polls are close because some of them are blatantly skewed towards the GOP, while others are not accurate simply because too many people are afraid to give honest answers to someone who knows their name and (likely) knows where they live.

I suspect that a lot of people are worried about being labeled as one of the “enemy within” if dump gets elected again. I would lie to some random pollster if it meant protecting myself and my family.

Botany

(73,529 posts)
3. A system put together to placate slave owners...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:41 PM
Nov 2024

..... over 200 years ago and that allows the
loser to be declared the winner needs to go
away.

RealFloridaDem

(22 posts)
7. They'll never ever ever get rid of it
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:45 PM
Nov 2024

Simply because republicans know they will NEVER EVER win a presidential election on popular vote.

Secondly, the idea of the smaller states not having a strong enough weight will be the constitutional challenge

TwilightZone

(28,835 posts)
10. It's anti-democratic because it was intended to be anti-democratic.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:51 PM
Nov 2024

There's very little that's democratic about the presidential election process. It was never meant to be democratic.

We don't even vote for the candidates, we vote for electors who represent us in the process. Except where prohibited by state law, they can even be faithless electors and ignore our will altogether.

Posts like this are great for likes on Twitter and recs here, but without real solutions, they're meaningless. Rah, rah, get rid of the EC.

Fine, how?

J_William_Ryan

(2,513 posts)
11. Republican-controlled states would never ratify.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 07:52 PM
Nov 2024

Control of the WH is central to the tyranny of Republican minority rule.

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