Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

consider_this

(2,840 posts)
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:26 PM Nov 2024

Unbelievable, that this many americans...

can vote for a felon, adjudicated rapist, and person of despicable character, who already fucked our country in office and afterward, to hold the highest office in the land. This is the twilight zone. Even if Harris wins - how is he getting this much support? Stupidity, cult following, meidia propping, all the shit adds to this disgrace.

63 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Unbelievable, that this many americans... (Original Post) consider_this Nov 2024 OP
Fux News billcomp1 Nov 2024 #1
True - but still - no brains? damn consider_this Nov 2024 #5
Fox News is the worst thing to happen to this country since the Civil War Initech Nov 2024 #34
Because they vote their hate. disappearingboy Nov 2024 #2
that's a fact, sick as it is, not what i like to think of as neighbors - sickening! consider_this Nov 2024 #9
Sadly, for those of us who live in red areas Tansy_Gold Nov 2024 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2024 #37
Same here birdographer Nov 2024 #40
Yep. That sounds right. Feeling the same. Evolve Dammit Nov 2024 #63
They are told you are the racist, sexist etc oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #54
Hate is a powerful aphrodisiac for white males. yourout Nov 2024 #3
Speak for yourself orangecrush Nov 2024 #13
I didn't say every white male. I'm an old white male.. yourout Nov 2024 #18
Apologies orangecrush Nov 2024 #23
Why? They traditionally have it better than anyone. Demobrat Nov 2024 #24
They fear their privilege will be taken away from them Tansy_Gold Nov 2024 #41
They are the same people... GiqueCee Nov 2024 #62
Top to bottom America is a sick society. RockRaven Nov 2024 #4
It's misogyny and racism aided by an undereducated population of non-critical thinkers easily manipulated by fear Freethinker65 Nov 2024 #6
Yes, so much mysogyny and racism Beringia Nov 2024 #22
Yep - and adding that Chump knows exactly how to use his dog whistle FakeNoose Nov 2024 #61
It's crazy! sunflowerseed Nov 2024 #7
I blame RW talk radio. Frasier Balzov Nov 2024 #8
That's about 1/2 of it - you can credit the churches with the other 1/2 (esp. in rural areas). nt TBF Nov 2024 #11
Exactly! IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2024 #46
It has been said all along that this is going to be a very close race. madaboutharry Nov 2024 #10
I was sick in 2016... consider_this Nov 2024 #12
I have become much more introverted. madaboutharry Nov 2024 #14
I have always been wary of men. With good reason based on experience. Demobrat Nov 2024 #30
Sadly, politics has become yet another team sport tinrobot Nov 2024 #15
OR, they chose by stupid criteria like.. consider_this Nov 2024 #16
It's depressing, but entirely believable. JHB Nov 2024 #17
Maybe some of you need to watch other news sources other than MSNBC Yavin4 Nov 2024 #19
Or don't stay on DU all day Ishoutandscream2 Nov 2024 #35
I'd prefer True Dough Nov 2024 #51
I feel like it's a bubble LeftInTX Nov 2024 #57
I know ailsagirl Nov 2024 #20
Agree, He shouldn't have even been allowed on the ballot, debm55 Nov 2024 #21
Racism, misogyny and a dusting of idiocy MLAA Nov 2024 #25
Is this nation really this stupid? liberal N proud Nov 2024 #27
Apparently treason and criminality is ok as long as one will perceivably benefit from it DSandra Nov 2024 #31
No, but it MIGHT be sufficiently brainwashed.. whathehell Nov 2024 #47
We have to go on a massive deprogramming spree around the country... DSandra Nov 2024 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author polichick Nov 2024 #29
Democrats have to learn to get nasty during Presidential Elections Thrill Nov 2024 #32
No matter who wins .... Grammy23 Nov 2024 #33
I know what you mean PatSeg Nov 2024 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author ArkansasDemocrat1 Nov 2024 #39
They are the enemy. Time to face facts Seeking Serenity Nov 2024 #38
This is what happens after 40+ years of defunding education citizen blues Nov 2024 #42
This cannot be overstated! consider_this Nov 2024 #43
Check out the "America Trilogy" by writer/historian Morris Berman... keep_left Nov 2024 #58
Fo Markcam72 Nov 2024 #44
Totally 3auld6phart Nov 2024 #45
Price of eggs. Klarkashton Nov 2024 #48
I guess I should have The Madcap Nov 2024 #50
Rasism Reigns Supreme czarjak Nov 2024 #49
Fucking facist media Clouds Passing Nov 2024 #52
No it isn't. Have you met people? Lotta crazy. JanMichael Nov 2024 #53
It seems a lot of Democrats stayed home too. Turbineguy Nov 2024 #55
Certainly looks like dems are not over performing oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #56
Do you remember high school? pfitz59 Nov 2024 #59
Well, they got their puffed up prom king now. yay consider_this Nov 2024 #60

Initech

(104,058 posts)
34. Fox News is the worst thing to happen to this country since the Civil War
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:11 PM
Nov 2024

Fuck Rupert Murdoch. I hope Satan has a special circle of hell reserved just for him.

disappearingboy

(87 posts)
2. Because they vote their hate.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:28 PM
Nov 2024

They vote their racism, sexism, queerphobia, xenophobia, and their nationalism. They'll vote for anyone who "fights for us," because that means "fighting THEM."

Tansy_Gold

(18,106 posts)
26. Sadly, for those of us who live in red areas
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:02 PM
Nov 2024

These are our neighbors.

And I am personally terrified of mine.

Response to Tansy_Gold (Reply #26)

birdographer

(2,821 posts)
40. Same here
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:31 PM
Nov 2024

We have a gun nut living very nearby. I had already decided where to hide my laptop if he broke in to see if we were Dems (under the litter box). But hey, if they win, maybe they will be less likely to want to shoot us.

I'm very depressed right now. This is feeling like 2016, when I kept hopefully checking but finally it was clear he had won. And this is FAR worse. We won't have trump now, we will have Vance, and he is even more hate-filled and insane.

yourout

(8,284 posts)
18. I didn't say every white male. I'm an old white male..
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:53 PM
Nov 2024

But an awful lot of my fellow old white males are hate filled racist misogynist assholes.

Demobrat

(10,068 posts)
24. Why? They traditionally have it better than anyone.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:00 PM
Nov 2024

It’s baked into the culture. Why so bitter?

Tansy_Gold

(18,106 posts)
41. They fear their privilege will be taken away from them
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:33 PM
Nov 2024

And what they fear is then who they hate.

GiqueCee

(1,900 posts)
62. They are the same people...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 07:16 PM
Nov 2024

... that "hate" someone for having something they don't have, or people who hate you because you can do something they can't do. I've dealt with the second one all my life.
They are weak, selfish people who are congenitally incapable of dealing with abstractions, like "other people". Millions were brought up to "Never explain, never apologize, and never admit you're wrong," "Nice guys finish last," and this gem, "It's their own fault for trusting me!"
For six decades, my hatred of the Republican Party has burned hotter than the surface of the Sun. But now, it has gone supernova.

Freethinker65

(11,182 posts)
6. It's misogyny and racism aided by an undereducated population of non-critical thinkers easily manipulated by fear
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:29 PM
Nov 2024

Sad.

FakeNoose

(36,829 posts)
61. Yep - and adding that Chump knows exactly how to use his dog whistle
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 04:55 PM
Nov 2024

That's his one "gift" - he knows how to play the stupid rubes perfectly.

Frasier Balzov

(4,053 posts)
8. I blame RW talk radio.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:29 PM
Nov 2024

Too many people stuck in their cars having delusional nonsense pumped into their brains.

TBF

(35,052 posts)
11. That's about 1/2 of it - you can credit the churches with the other 1/2 (esp. in rural areas). nt
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:33 PM
Nov 2024

IrishAfricanAmerican

(4,207 posts)
46. Exactly!
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:05 PM
Nov 2024

It's the combination of the information bubble and churches. They get it from every angle. I used to be mired in it. I know.

madaboutharry

(41,738 posts)
10. It has been said all along that this is going to be a very close race.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:30 PM
Nov 2024

That said, I share your profound disappointment that so many Americans would vote for Trump. It is disheartening.

consider_this

(2,840 posts)
12. I was sick in 2016...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:33 PM
Nov 2024

more so to wonder 'who are the people around me' that allowed TSF to be elected.
I have been sick, but kinda wanted to be disbelieving about the 'it's close' mantra broadcast during the run up to tonight - wanted to think it was corporate BS - but alas - it truly is a land of idiocracy! I certainly hope Harris wins and restore my faith that we at least have a majority ( or EC majority, i guess) of decency in this country.

Demobrat

(10,068 posts)
30. I have always been wary of men. With good reason based on experience.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:04 PM
Nov 2024

But now I’m downright scared of them. I didn’t realize the hatred of women ran so deep. Now I know.

tinrobot

(11,487 posts)
15. Sadly, politics has become yet another team sport
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:35 PM
Nov 2024

A lot of people simply don't look at issues.

They support their "team", no matter what - even if it kills them.

consider_this

(2,840 posts)
16. OR, they chose by stupid criteria like..
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:37 PM
Nov 2024

she's a woman, he's a buisnessman, blah, blah - not looking into person or policy ideas at all, just some lame demographic. DUMB

JHB

(37,601 posts)
17. It's depressing, but entirely believable.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:51 PM
Nov 2024

Several decades of unvarnished propaganda -- including that from our now-allied Never-Trumpers trying to whitewash their entire careers -- has an effect.

Yavin4

(37,110 posts)
19. Maybe some of you need to watch other news sources other than MSNBC
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 09:55 PM
Nov 2024

or get out of your house more. I dunno. We're a highly partisan country. The Republicans could nominate a ham sandwich and still win ARK.

LeftInTX

(32,707 posts)
57. I feel like it's a bubble
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:08 AM
Nov 2024

"Polls are Republican propaganda. " (Repeated ad nauseum..Really??) How can they stay in business if they're bogus?

"Trump has melted" (How many times has he melted?)

DSandra

(1,513 posts)
31. Apparently treason and criminality is ok as long as one will perceivably benefit from it
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:05 PM
Nov 2024

Much of America has lost its soul!

whathehell

(30,102 posts)
47. No, but it MIGHT be sufficiently brainwashed..
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:10 PM
Nov 2024

when you consider the unchecked influence of Faux News, Newsmax, and the rest of Wingnut Media.

DSandra

(1,513 posts)
28. We have to go on a massive deprogramming spree around the country...
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:03 PM
Nov 2024

There is a way to deprogram them, but we MUST do this en masse even if Kamala wins otherwise we are done for!

Response to consider_this (Original post)

Thrill

(19,322 posts)
32. Democrats have to learn to get nasty during Presidential Elections
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:06 PM
Nov 2024

Regretting not doing ads reminding people he was a convicted felon and rapist. Never saw one Ad reminding people of that. Now look where we’re at.

Grammy23

(5,953 posts)
33. No matter who wins ....
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:07 PM
Nov 2024

I’m taking notes on places I’ll never go. Too many racists. And brain dead zombies. I just don’t understand how they can support such an awful man.

PatSeg

(49,929 posts)
36. I know what you mean
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:16 PM
Nov 2024

There are states (as well as some people) that are off limits for me because of their support for such a vile, immoral man. It is not Trump who bothers me, it is the people who support his ignorant ass. I've known nasty people in my life, but no one really liked them and certainly wouldn't vote for them.

There is a disease in this country and I'm afraid it will be with us for a long time.

Response to Grammy23 (Reply #33)

Seeking Serenity

(3,144 posts)
38. They are the enemy. Time to face facts
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:17 PM
Nov 2024

They hate all that is good. We're trying to bring the country into the 21st century; they want to take it back to the 15th.

Unless we can govern them with an iron hand (the only way they know), I don't see how we can live together.

citizen blues

(597 posts)
42. This is what happens after 40+ years of defunding education
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:41 PM
Nov 2024

1. People can't read. Every day I see high school students who are reading on a 3rd-4th grade level.

2. People are not taught problem-solving or actual critical thinking.

3. Post-Secondary school is getting further and further out of reach for anyone but the wealthy.



consider_this

(2,840 posts)
43. This cannot be overstated!
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 10:45 PM
Nov 2024

Education is the key to everything. Remember, TSF said he loved uneducated consitituents (or course he does).
This country does not prioritize or fund education as it should, and this is the damn result. Great for the controlling oligarchy, isn't it!
How can we expect people to know when they are being bamboozled by Fux, etc. when they do not know how things work, can't research for themselves and think for themselves, and are so busy trying to make ends meet they have little time or interest in trying to understand how all shit works together. Just go for the big sideshow.
Oh - and TSF and P25 friends would not be bolstering education - of course.

keep_left

(2,747 posts)
58. Check out the "America Trilogy" by writer/historian Morris Berman...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:12 AM
Nov 2024

...starting with The Twilight of American Culture, written in the late '90s. Berman predicted a lot of what we're now seeing almost three decades ago. Another (much older) classic I recommend is Erich Fromm's Escape From Freedom (1941), which helps explain some of the inscrutable behavior we've witnessed from the MAGA chuds in the recent past.

You can find Berman's blog at: https://morrisberman.substack.com

Markcam72

(1 post)
44. Fo
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:02 PM
Nov 2024

They willburn in hell for voting for pedos and adulterers like trump. Saidis say hang adulterers and drug users

3auld6phart

(1,454 posts)
45. Totally
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:03 PM
Nov 2024

. 1/4 to 50 %…. Are total ally ignorant or oblivious as to what goes on around.them… Ignorance is bliss…

Clouds Passing

(4,000 posts)
52. Fucking facist media
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:57 PM
Nov 2024

On cbs I heard the anchor with the kirsten sinema yellow dress, say “Joe Biden, still remember him? HeHe” I turned the channel immediately. Watching Castaway. This is the problem with the media, they won’t even treat our President with respect or even that he is still our President.

JanMichael

(25,494 posts)
53. No it isn't. Have you met people? Lotta crazy.
Tue Nov 5, 2024, 11:59 PM
Nov 2024

America is not a terribly well educated or well behaved people. Highly religious and brainwashed into thinking anyone can be president.

Super racist and sexist to boot. Guns trucks and eagles.

Doesn't surprise me at all.

oldmanlynn

(607 posts)
56. Certainly looks like dems are not over performing
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:05 AM
Nov 2024

It may come down to a pretty close election.

Have to consider that there are enough Americans than believe in trump that we have to live with that.

Surprises me that our country is here.

pfitz59

(11,355 posts)
59. Do you remember high school?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 03:58 PM
Nov 2024

The braggarts, the bullies, the lazy students, the intellectually bereft? These are them. All growed up. The 'Biff's ' of our nation.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Unbelievable, that this m...