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SocialDemocrat61

(3,114 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 06:32 AM Nov 6

I'm sorry but I blame the corporate media

They have been putting profits ahead of truth for decades. They raised Trump up for years. They normalized him. They also have been waging a war against democrats for decades. They started attacking Biden in 21 and refused to acknowledge his accomplishments while exaggerating perceived failures. They set a very high bar for Harris and buried it in the ground for Trump. Now they will get to keep their tax cuts and the people will suffer for it.

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I'm sorry but I blame the corporate media (Original Post) SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 OP
Yes, bdamomma Nov 6 #1
They could have put a stop to this when he first DemonGoddess Nov 6 #2
I agree IzzaNuDay Nov 6 #3
And all four of them... GiqueCee Nov 6 #23
Yes. they are a huge problem . JI7 Nov 6 #4
Don't apologize for a tiny cabal of disgustingly rich facists. Clouds Passing Nov 6 #5
Plutocracy here we come followed by feudalism with a fancy name. GreenWave Nov 6 #6
100% !!! The M$M, The USSC and Merrick Garland !! uponit7771 Nov 6 #7
They will only get worse this point on. Emile Nov 6 #8
Yeah, they dropped the ball. LisaM Nov 6 #9
Owned by billionaires Blue Full Moon Nov 6 #10
I agree completely angrychair Nov 6 #11
You're 100% right johnnyplankton Nov 6 #12
Yep JPPaverage Nov 6 #13
Honorable Mention Time Montauk6 Nov 6 #14
The media didn't pull the levers in the voting booth. People did. ificandream Nov 6 #15
And those voters were SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #21
You are 100% correct PhilosopherKing Nov 6 #24
Yep. We need to stop blaming the media for everything. TwilightZone Nov 6 #31
Yes. lees1975 Nov 6 #16
And their enablers in Congress will have plenty to answer for, as well... GiqueCee Nov 6 #17
Boycott ALL corporate media vdogg Nov 6 #18
Agree and announce this everywhere! rainy Nov 6 #20
I blame Russia and Merrick Garland. lark Nov 6 #19
coupled with home shooling IbogaProject Nov 6 #22
It doesn't matter who we blame. orangecrush Nov 6 #25
Social media! FalloutShelter Nov 6 #26
Very True! RetiredandHopeful Nov 6 #27
Exactly 😡 they all leaned towards him. Greedy companies TommieMommy Nov 6 #28
Horse buns 3auld6phart Nov 6 #29
The worst of it is that the media is the only thing Bluetus Nov 6 #30
The legacy media has now been replaced by Social Media I think. JohnSJ Nov 6 #32
I blame a lot of things. ShazzieB Nov 6 #33
Nothing to be sorry about WinstonSmith4740 Nov 6 #34
The media utterly failed us, but that is not news. Bluetus Nov 6 #36
I think the media were trying to avoid what they saw as snot Nov 6 #35
Of course, but we knew that all along Patton French Nov 6 #37

IzzaNuDay

(732 posts)
3. I agree
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 06:38 AM
Nov 6

the shit the dotard said and did, lastly fellating the microphone. Not to mention January 6.

I remember how Democrats Thomas Eagleton got blasted for taking care of his mental health, Gary Hart for his affair, and Howard Dean’s joyful scream.

All three of them were shown the door, presidential candidates no more. And Al Franken’s situation.

The dotard did far worse than. any of these four men but he’s going to be a presidential candidate…



GiqueCee

(1,584 posts)
23. And all four of them...
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:37 AM
Nov 6

... were the victims of craven cowards in their own party who refused to stand up for one of their own, due, no doubt, to their fear of what the corrupt media could do to them. But also due to their singular lack of character. They were WAY too eager to jump on that bandwagon.
I met and spoke with Governor (and doctor) Dean (Vermont's a small state) on a few occasions, and he was, and still is, a decent person who was railroaded by soulless scum in the media. However, Hart's the one for whom I have the least sympathy. If he couldn't be trusted to keep his johnson in the barn, he couldn't be trusted, period.

LisaM

(28,819 posts)
9. Yeah, they dropped the ball.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 07:11 AM
Nov 6

They just wouldn't tout Biden's accomplishments. He's strengthened NATO, unions are making a comeback, his handling of COVID was exemplary, he's improved the financial situation of people who were burdened by students loans, and he's created a lot of jobs and improved infrastructure. The stock market is up.

You wouldn't know any of that listening to the media all summer.

Blue Full Moon

(1,391 posts)
10. Owned by billionaires
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 07:12 AM
Nov 6

They already have way more than they will ever need. Stealing the crumbs from us. They are mentally ill.

angrychair

(9,950 posts)
11. I agree completely
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 07:29 AM
Nov 6

Misery and suffering sells more headlines than prosperity and happiness.

They will end up suffering more than anyone. This is the death of the modern news media.
Liberal news media needs to go underground and rebuild from the ground up.

JPPaverage

(579 posts)
13. Yep
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:06 AM
Nov 6

And i aint sorry. As you so eloquently stated, all they care about is their money.
I will not be so eloquent. Fuck them.

Montauk6

(8,797 posts)
14. Honorable Mention Time
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:08 AM
Nov 6

I sincerely hope those who just couldn’t bring themselves to support Kamala because “I refuse to support genocide” are feeling REAL proud in this moment. I’m sure that staying at home or that Jill Stein vote will do so MUCH for the folks in Gaza.

ificandream

(10,878 posts)
15. The media didn't pull the levers in the voting booth. People did.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:12 AM
Nov 6

There was a ton (and I mean a ton) of coverage about his trials and convictions, his horrible campaign, the Madison Square Garden debacle and much much more. He wasn't normalized. The problem was the voters. Why the hell after all this coverage did they pull the levers the wrong way? It certainly wasn't because they didn't know. It's because, bluntly, the legitimate media isn't Fox. They don't lie and make up crap (like voting for Kamala was cheating on your husband). They stick with facts.

The legitimate media works hard at being impartial. Yeah, there are some things to nitpick. Like bad headlines (FYI, writers don't generally write headlines ... copy editors do).

But the likely fault of today's tragedy is we still live in a nation of stupids. And stupid is who Fox talks to. And the stupids listened.

I just hope I survive this debacle (I'm 72).

SocialDemocrat61

(3,114 posts)
21. And those voters were
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:34 AM
Nov 6

misinformed and conditioned by the media for decades. And there is no legitimate media in this country anymore, only the corporate media.

PhilosopherKing

(386 posts)
24. You are 100% correct
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:48 AM
Nov 6

Selfish, ignorant citizens will get you selfish, ignorant leaders. It is that simple.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
31. Yep. We need to stop blaming the media for everything.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:21 AM
Nov 6

And stop being intentionally ignorant about how they cover him.

And stop making excuses for the voters. And stop pretending that we understand their motivations.

This is all on the voters.

lees1975

(6,157 posts)
16. Yes.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:14 AM
Nov 6

He's been on a perpetual re-election campaign since he lost in 2020, and they've given him more air time than any other human being on the planet, and that's not an exaggeration. They engineered this, it was their narrative, and they fixed it for him to win, including getting Biden out of the way. The only thing that went wrong was the transition that went to Harris, instead of the confusion of a mini primary they were banking on.

We lost our free press when it became corporate, owned by the billionaires. There are a lot of things we should have done that we are really going to regret now.

I'm 67, I've got to figure out how to make it work for maybe another decade. Lie low and hope for the best, I guess.

vdogg

(1,385 posts)
18. Boycott ALL corporate media
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:20 AM
Nov 6

I'm not watching any of them anymore. I refuse to reward them for what they've done to this country.

rainy

(6,244 posts)
20. Agree and announce this everywhere!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:30 AM
Nov 6

Let’s really make this a thing. We will turn off all MSM

lark

(24,394 posts)
19. I blame Russia and Merrick Garland.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:29 AM
Nov 6

Russia pushed Biden out of the race by pushing out the meme of incompetence and Merrick Garland refused to go after tcf who should have already been convicted of felonies that would 100% prevent him from running again.

I hate living in Nazi America but am too damn old to move, too hard to become fluent in another language in my 70's. Besides the world will hate Americans now, and with good reason for lots of them, but it would reflect on us even though undeserved.

My besst friend is a Repug and I can't be around her now or talk to her because I wouldn't be civil. We never talk politics anyway, but right now I just can't knowing she participated in this devastation which will kill her too - she's 82!

FalloutShelter

(12,909 posts)
26. Social media!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:51 AM
Nov 6

Mark Twain said that a lie can travel around the world before you can put your pants on.

NOW a lie can travel around the world before you can think about putting your pants on. The effortless and unchecked spread of disinformation... the ability of bad actors to organize across the globe under the radar... all of this is responsible.

JMHO

3auld6phart

(1,331 posts)
29. Horse buns
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:56 AM
Nov 6

Last edited Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:30 PM - Edit history (1)

I blame the ignorance of on your uhuformed, mal contents. Who are so willingly open to the charlatans like like the pedo Joseph Smithe and Brigham young. CCharles Russell , Mary Baker Eddy, the Osteens, Nakers Jones, just to many to name.so manyready to drink the spiked Kool AidThosegawd damn polls meant nothing..The malcontents won. What a fe****iing , what a shit show.

Bluetus

(379 posts)
30. The worst of it is that the media is the only thing
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:15 AM
Nov 6

that can present any guardrails now. The judiciary is gone. Congress is gone. The whole system of laws is gone as far as Trump is concerned.

Trump. Musk. Putin. Alito. Project 2025. Vance. That is our next two years at least. The only thing that can hold Project 2025 back is very bright sunlight from the media. Who thinks they will do their job?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,176 posts)
34. Nothing to be sorry about
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:38 AM
Nov 6

I put this totally on them. Nothing he did or said was mentioned more than once, and then almost in passing. His incoherent ramblings were sane-washed to sound like policy. $10 M from Egypt? Oh, we mentioned that yesterday...we have to move on. Watching him lock them up will almost be rewarding.

Bluetus

(379 posts)
36. The media utterly failed us, but that is not news.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:25 AM
Nov 6

It has literally been decades since the legacy news media did journalism in any recognizable form. Yes, one occasionally saw good investigative pieces from WashPo or NYT, but that has not been their main business for a long time. These days, their main business is click-baiting, just like the rest of the Internet.

Click-baiting is the opposite of journalism. With journalism, the goal is truth, facts, and efficient communication. The headline encapsulates the essence of the story. The first paragraph provides the essential information, and subsequent paragraphs fill in details for those who have the time or interest to dive deeper.

With click-baiting, the goal is to get the reader's attention long enough for them to see your ads. The essential information is buried deep in the article, often requiring one to click through multiple pages, all for the purpose of exposing more ads.

The legacy media was provided special rights and protections in our system because the founders expected them to be the ultimate guardrail -- sunlight being the best disinfectant. They even referred to this as "the fourth estate", effectively being checks and balances on the official branches of government. None of this exists anymore, at least not with the legacy media.

Having said all that, we should not forget that we would almost certainly been at a different place today if Merrick Garland had not stalled the process for a full 18 months. Many on our side defended his glacial pace as being "deliberate", assuring us that there was plenty of time to bring Trump and his fellow criminals to account before the election. The fact is that Garland cost us half the available time, and Trump was able to run out the clock. Historians should not report this sad era without giving prominent attention to the role that Garland singularly played.

snot

(10,893 posts)
35. I think the media were trying to avoid what they saw as
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 09:52 AM
Nov 6

a mistake during the Trump-Hillary match-up. That time around, they talked about almost nothing but Trump and how awful he was, hoping to discredit him; but the old saw, "any publicity is good publicity," proved true: a campaign that should have been a joke turned into something to be taken seriously.

This time, the media seemed to devote much less air time to him; I think they media were in part trying to avoid repeating the same mistake.

My own thoughts are: (1) people unfairly blamed Biden for at least some of their suffering during the pandemic, (2) they felt left out of the democratic process of selecting a Democratic candidate, and/or that process, given short shrift in this election, actually plays an important part in mustering enthusiasm for the ultimate Dem candidate, and (3) Harris struck some people as a sort of Hillary-in-a-different color, and Hillary was not all that popular.

One more point: imho, most people vote their pocketbooks above all else. The working class has been sinking into poverty and precarity for years, and the Dems are now felt by many to have betrayed the working class. I think Biden made a serious effort to recover some of that lost support, but it took decades for Dems to lose workers' loyalty, and I'm afraid Dems have a lot of work to do to win it back.

Patton French

(1,219 posts)
37. Of course, but we knew that all along
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:26 AM
Nov 6

Aside from a few islands on MSNBC, there was a very strong headwind.

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