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Oopsie Daisy

(5,600 posts)
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:00 AM Nov 2024

Roe was overturned. Will Obergefell be reversed as well? Clarence Thomas wants to revisit it *

* and they're eager for the right case to come along. What would happen then? Will there be no more marriage equality? Will married couples suddenly become "legal strangers" in the eyes of the law? Will marriages be nullified?

Dark days ahead. Dark, dark, frightening days ahead.

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Roe was overturned. Will Obergefell be reversed as well? Clarence Thomas wants to revisit it * (Original Post) Oopsie Daisy Nov 2024 OP
How about snowybirdie Nov 2024 #1
I think that's all going to be up for repeal DemonGoddess Nov 2024 #2
Not so fast jmowreader Nov 2024 #3
If it's a civil right or liberty ruled after 1868, it is on the table. Eugene Nov 2024 #4
In terms of marriage equality dsc Nov 2024 #5
Yes, I'd forgotten about the reciprocity laws. But, if they have the ability to overturn * Oopsie Daisy Nov 2024 #6

jmowreader

(52,123 posts)
3. Not so fast
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:17 AM
Nov 2024

Before they can overturn Obergefell, they first have to overturn Griswold v Connecticut (gave married couples the right to contraception), Eisenstadt v Baird (extended the right to unmarried people) and Lawrence v Texas (legalized oral and anal sex). I mean, how is the Dobbs decision going to scare anyone out of wanting to have sex if they don't want to have a baby so long as condoms and The Pill are still legal? And of course we have to get rid of all those kinds of sex that don't have a pregnancy risk if we want to achieve our goal of eliminating sex for pleasure.

Listen to me folks and this is important: if they get all the cases they want overturned to be overturned, DO NOT GO ON A DATING SITE! You know these assholes will infiltrate attractive cops into those sites to try to talk you into unauthorized forms of sex then arrest you if you consent to them.

Eugene

(64,419 posts)
4. If it's a civil right or liberty ruled after 1868, it is on the table.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:24 AM
Nov 2024

That includes Obergefell, Loving, Griswold v Connecticut (birth control) and maybe even Brown v. Board of Education.
Times v Sullivan? I wouldn't put it past them, especially as Dump wants that gone.

ACB is not a fan of the 14th Amendment either.

dsc

(52,867 posts)
5. In terms of marriage equality
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:26 AM
Nov 2024

there was a law passed that requires states to accept each other's marriages so, no they wouldn't become legal strangers in a world without Obergefell. But in issuance of licenses for those marriages you might see large number of states in which that would stop. NC has a ban in the Constitution that will be nearly impossible to lift. So NC would stop issuing licenses the next day.

Oopsie Daisy

(5,600 posts)
6. Yes, I'd forgotten about the reciprocity laws. But, if they have the ability to overturn *
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 08:31 AM
Nov 2024

* Obergefell v Hodges, then it would be an easy stroll in the park to repeal other laws.

I weep for our nation, and the world.

I'm wounded, horrified and embarrassed. What a shameful nation this is.

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