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Harris! Do Not Concede! (Original Post) usaf-vet Nov 6 OP
This cilla4progress Nov 6 #1
Trump never conceded to Biden. Emile Nov 6 #2
And Harris isn't like and doesn't want to be viewed as being like Trump. onenote Nov 6 #7
Her concession is scheduled MontanaMama Nov 6 #3
WTF? Patton French Nov 6 #5
Yep! Quit before all the facts are in. GreenWave Nov 6 #48
She probably wanted to take some time preparing her response to the election results.. ShazzieB Nov 6 #56
Ditto BoRaGard Nov 6 #4
She will concede. And she will do it with a smile simply because Jersey Devil Nov 6 #6
Yup that is really going to be important over the next four years! usaf-vet Nov 6 #12
Conceding is not "folding" Jersey Devil Nov 6 #14
"All Options" have been explored SCantiGOP Nov 6 #42
There are no options DavidDvorkin Nov 6 #8
A- a concession is not needed, it is a sign of class sarisataka Nov 6 #9
"The polls we didn't want to believe were correct, we lost. Now everyone loses." TheProle Nov 6 #10
At least not until we can figure out how small red rural counties were able to pull off more votes than Baitball Blogger Nov 6 #11
AGREED! usaf-vet Nov 6 #13
Do you have an example? onenote Nov 6 #29
Where did that happen? PBC_Democrat Nov 6 #31
I wondered about this same thing birdographer Nov 6 #43
THIS. VERY most likely THIS. calimary Nov 6 #44
I just heard on NPR that birdographer Nov 6 #58
Why did this election have 18 million less voters Emile Nov 6 #15
and longer lines?? n/t DemonGoddess Nov 6 #17
and bomb threats Emile Nov 6 #18
That is almost certainly not true. There are millions of uncounted ballots, especially in places like California. tritsofme Nov 6 #19
18 million? Emile Nov 6 #21
Yes, across the country, entirely makes sense. tritsofme Nov 6 #23
So when they count all the votes, you're saying they'll Emile Nov 6 #24
I would expect overall turnout to be greater than 2016, but probably marginally less than 2020 tritsofme Nov 6 #26
Ppl are usually not motivated a second time around to turn out to vote because they don't understand the gravity of the onetexan Nov 6 #37
Good question Baggies Nov 6 #39
2020 was historically high in turnout, the most in 100 years Polybius Nov 6 #46
A concession is nothing but an acknowledgment of reality. To suggest it is "folding" is just nonsense. tritsofme Nov 6 #16
Can you point me to the page that show me REALITY. I and we should all have unanswered questions. usaf-vet Nov 6 #20
She will never gain national prominence again, no matter what at this point. tritsofme Nov 6 #22
Trump is on track for 310+ EV's... WarGamer Nov 6 #25
Agree kerouac2 Nov 6 #27
This is about freedom and our Democracy! Bluethroughu Nov 6 #28
Oh, for crying out loud. Don't do this!!! nt LAS14 Nov 6 #30
Give Trump a taste of the medicine he gave Biden meow2u3 Nov 6 #32
Exactly and DO NOT CONCEDE KS Toronado Nov 6 #36
Do not give this fraud's government a moment's peace. Badger them at every turn and give no quarter. jaxexpat Nov 6 #55
Wrong. Don't sink to Trump's level. Martin68 Nov 6 #33
I wish I had some say in the matter. I don't. Please don't concede VP Harris. Ferrets are Cool Nov 6 #34
Post removed Post removed Nov 6 #35
There are too many uncounted votes and too many corrupted electoral boards. Count the votes, demand recounts. We must ShazamIam Nov 6 #38
What would you classify as close? Polybius Nov 6 #47
My comment is about uncounted votes, not a close finish. ShazamIam Nov 6 #54
Giving up without a smidgen of fight. The orange one had 60 lawsuits, how about at least one for the team. Hotler Nov 6 #40
Not only should she not concede, DemonGoddess Nov 6 #41
Will someone let me know when the fever passes? BootinUp Nov 6 #45
Thank-you. It is just nuts. JohnSJ Nov 6 #49
So how did that Gore concession work out ? RANDYWILDMAN Nov 6 #51
Why were the networks so bat shit crazy to declare Trump the winner of each red state with hardly any votes counted? GreenWave Nov 6 #50
CNN just reported that she has conceded in a phone call to trump. She will speak later. Think it was proper move. Silent Type Nov 6 #52
Will she...have the courage? ColinC Nov 6 #53
What options might those be? HereForTheParty Nov 6 #57

cilla4progress

(25,979 posts)
1. This
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:57 AM
Nov 6

I like.

I want the votes cast to be closely examined. We know tech Bros were in it with putin, who steals every election

onenote

(44,805 posts)
7. And Harris isn't like and doesn't want to be viewed as being like Trump.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 10:59 AM
Nov 6

That's not who she is, as I expect most people here recognize.

ShazzieB

(18,925 posts)
56. She probably wanted to take some time preparing her response to the election results..
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:58 PM
Nov 6

This isn't just any concession speech, after all. This is a moment of monumental historical importance (and not in a good way ). Fairly or not, a lot of people will be expecting her to say something that befits the seriousness of the moment.

I don't know what she could possibly say that would make this any easier or make us, her supporters, feel any better, but I think the delay is an indication that she is taking this very seriously and will do her best to rise to the occasion. I will definitely be tuning in at 6pm EST (5pm my time).

usaf-vet

(7,018 posts)
12. Yup that is really going to be important over the next four years!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:36 AM
Nov 6


I can't believe DUers are ready to fold.

Jersey Devil

(10,354 posts)
14. Conceding is not "folding"
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:38 AM
Nov 6

It is remaining true to you own basic decency. To do otherwise would be to become just like Trump.

SCantiGOP

(14,302 posts)
42. "All Options" have been explored
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:56 PM
Nov 6

Last edited Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:27 PM - Edit history (1)

The only one left is to storm the Capitol on January 6.
We lost, and the National Democratic Party knows it.

sarisataka

(21,272 posts)
9. A- a concession is not needed, it is a sign of class
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:29 AM
Nov 6

B- what options? The polls we didn't want to believe were correct, we lost. Now everyone loses.

Baitball Blogger

(48,431 posts)
11. At least not until we can figure out how small red rural counties were able to pull off more votes than
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:31 AM
Nov 6

the number of people who lived in them.

PBC_Democrat

(403 posts)
31. Where did that happen?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:06 PM
Nov 6

My guess is that this is the kind of wild speculation that takes on a life of its own.

Verified numbers or it didn't happen

birdographer

(2,528 posts)
43. I wondered about this same thing
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:04 PM
Nov 6

Too many votes for not that many people. But it's probably not the reason. Men don't want a woman president and so they didn't vote at all.

calimary

(84,607 posts)
44. THIS. VERY most likely THIS.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:17 PM
Nov 6

Although many probably DID vote that way. We had the secrecy of the vote to give us cover. But so did they.

birdographer

(2,528 posts)
58. I just heard on NPR that
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 05:22 PM
Nov 6

trump had the young male vote. They did not think the Democratic Party "spoke" to them. They thought it was too focused on abortion issues. Makes sense--these are kids 18 to, say, 25. Many aren't married or even in a relationship with a woman that they love. They certainly don't have teenage daughters to worry about. They are, at that point, the definition of "self-centered." Women's issues would be at the bottom of their priority list. Meanwhile, they thought trump did great with the economy. A 20 year old now was 12 when trump was elected in 2016 and 16 when he lost to Biden. So, these 12-16-year-old kids were right on top of the US economy under trump and that guided their vote at age 20. Yeah, right. They just don't care about women. But apparently they learned well at trump's knee about how to lie very poorly. It's not that I don't understand; I understand completely. But don't lie about how great the economy was under him.

tritsofme

(18,708 posts)
19. That is almost certainly not true. There are millions of uncounted ballots, especially in places like California.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:45 AM
Nov 6

tritsofme

(18,708 posts)
26. I would expect overall turnout to be greater than 2016, but probably marginally less than 2020
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:58 AM
Nov 6

Most of that 18 million gap will disappear within a week.

onetexan

(13,913 posts)
37. Ppl are usually not motivated a second time around to turn out to vote because they don't understand the gravity of the
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:38 PM
Nov 6

what's at stake. Dems and conscientious Americans did not turn out to vote in large numbers like they did in 2020.
Most Americans aren't all that smart and have short memories. It's the economy and immigration reform. They can't quite understand that to even fix those you need to have a functioning democracy.
Sigh...

Baggies

(666 posts)
39. Good question
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:44 PM
Nov 6

That Harris received 18M less votes than Biden did in 2020 is raising all sorts of uncomfortable questions about this election and 2020.

Polybius

(18,360 posts)
46. 2020 was historically high in turnout, the most in 100 years
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:35 PM
Nov 6

We returned to normal levels. The longer lines were due to far more people voting by mail-in in 2020 due to Covid.

tritsofme

(18,708 posts)
16. A concession is nothing but an acknowledgment of reality. To suggest it is "folding" is just nonsense.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:42 AM
Nov 6

I’m not sure what you think is being accomplished by denying reality?

usaf-vet

(7,018 posts)
20. Can you point me to the page that show me REALITY. I and we should all have unanswered questions.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:46 AM
Nov 6

Harris is done. She will never gain national prominence again if she just FOLDS and goes away.

tritsofme

(18,708 posts)
22. She will never gain national prominence again, no matter what at this point.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 11:50 AM
Nov 6

What point is there in dragging out a concession? It doesn’t change the reality of her loss.

Bluethroughu

(5,988 posts)
28. This is about freedom and our Democracy!
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:01 PM
Nov 6

DO NOT CONCEDE!

TRUMP AND HIS REPUBLICAN TRAITORS HAVEN'T FOR FOUR YEARS!

meow2u3

(24,935 posts)
32. Give Trump a taste of the medicine he gave Biden
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:18 PM
Nov 6

Question the legitimacy of the results by pointing out the interference of Russia, Elon Musk, 11th hour dark money from billionaires, and other dirty tricks.

KS Toronado

(19,703 posts)
36. Exactly and DO NOT CONCEDE
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:38 PM
Nov 6

4 years and TSF still hasn't conceded the 2020 election. "Hey they cheated with the voting machines!"

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
55. Do not give this fraud's government a moment's peace. Badger them at every turn and give no quarter.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:56 PM
Nov 6

Never concede this election!

Folks, the really bad part will come with the new congress. Normalcy is a thing of the past. Grow up and know it. The value of honor has long been inflated, much to our chagrin.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,991 posts)
34. I wish I had some say in the matter. I don't. Please don't concede VP Harris.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:32 PM
Nov 6

If getting on these old knees and begging would help, I would do so in a heartbeat.

Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

ShazamIam

(2,724 posts)
38. There are too many uncounted votes and too many corrupted electoral boards. Count the votes, demand recounts. We must
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:41 PM
Nov 6

Last edited Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:47 PM - Edit history (1)

challenge every close precinct, every close state.


Edit: correct spelling precinct.

Hotler

(12,388 posts)
40. Giving up without a smidgen of fight. The orange one had 60 lawsuits, how about at least one for the team.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:46 PM
Nov 6

DemonGoddess

(5,125 posts)
41. Not only should she not concede,
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 12:54 PM
Nov 6

we all need to email her AT the White House to tell her that. I already have.

BootinUp

(49,169 posts)
45. Will someone let me know when the fever passes?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:30 PM
Nov 6

And by that I mean when the crazy ideas stop getting shitloads of Rec’s.

RANDYWILDMAN

(2,931 posts)
51. So how did that Gore concession work out ?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:50 PM
Nov 6

went over like a ton of bricks

if it feels funky, it most likely is

GreenWave

(9,442 posts)
50. Why were the networks so bat shit crazy to declare Trump the winner of each red state with hardly any votes counted?
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:48 PM
Nov 6

NY had to wait a long time despite huge disparities, and NJ, and Illinois, and Connecticut, etc,

How did the gold standard in Iowa fall off the mark?

Silent Type

(7,325 posts)
52. CNN just reported that she has conceded in a phone call to trump. She will speak later. Think it was proper move.
Wed Nov 6, 2024, 01:50 PM
Nov 6
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