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[Frank D. Lincoln]

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[Irish_Dem]

1. There is enough blame to go around.

Garland, McConnell, Johnson, the entire GOP, etc.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

8. I already know about those other people.

But they never would have come into play had it not been for McConnell's treachery.

His was the original sin in this political tragedy.

He had the political sway to stop Trump immediately following J6 but he chose not to.

That's my point.

It all goes back to Mitch McConnell.

[Irish_Dem]

10. The DOJ could have stopped Trump as well. But refused to do so.

The GOP did not have to nominate Trump again. But did so.

The American people could have refused to vote for Trump. But did so.

The list goes on and on.

The loss of our democracy rests on no single person's shoulders.
It is a shared blame.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

16. You keep missing my point.

I'll state this once more and then I'm done with this exchange.

I understand that there's shared blame. I've not stated that there isn't shared blame. I've made posts at DU several times before placing blame on several different people as you've done. But that's not the point of my OP that started this thread

My point is that it all started with Mitch McConnell.

That's my only point.

Now, feel free to reply and have the last word because I know you have a need to do so and that's fine. But I'll skip reading it.

[marked50]

37. Agree.

[Magoo48]

28. Blame is useless. It won't help us deal with the gathering shitstorm.

We must resist with imagination, consistency, and purpose. Like they said in that tv show, “Winter is coming.”
I for one intend to resist for as long as I am able. I’m not going anywhere; I like this land. It’s my home. And, I don’t like fascism.

[calimary]

34. Right there with ya, Magoo48!

[Emile]

2. He should have backed the impeachment

and removal of Trump.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

9. Exactly. nt

[lastlib]

3. MoscowMitch was never on the side of democracy.

He has always sided with the oligarchs and the fascists.

[Frank D. Lincoln]

11. Not quite.

You seem to be dismissing McConnell's initial outrage at what Trump did when he incited J6. In that moment, McConnell was a conservative but not a fascist. Next, he saved Trump for purely partisan reasons. For years after that, McConnell and
Trump were estranged. But eventually, McConnell kissed Trump's ring, completing his transformation to fascism.

[madinmaryland]

15. Lest we not forget Mitch attending a confederate/Klan meeting.

He has always been anti-democracy

[Frank D. Lincoln]

20. But not a fascist.

Bad though Mitch McConnell is he has always supported the peaceful transfer of power.

[hatrack]

29. For about ten minutes . .

After that, not so much.

[uponit7771]

39. He could be pissed at Benedict Donald and still not want democracy

[2naSalit]

4. And I will...

Be right there to piss on his grave just as soon as he gets in it.

[MontanaMama]

19. Same.

Gladly piss on it with everything I’ve got.

[2naSalit]

21. I'll even...

Drink a lot of extra fluids beforehand.

[dameatball]

35. And I will gladly buy you some fluids of your choice in a just cause

[aka-chmeee]

26. And the line will be very long nt

[Skittles]

5. he is fucking disgusting

[lame54]

6. Slow and steady wins the race

[wiseowljedi]

7. Why is this the end of democracy

If this is really the end of democracy? If Trump can really ditch the constitution then why wouldn't Joe Biden beat him to the punch? If this is a one way street with no coming back I just don't understand why you would even transfer power to a dictator that would never transfer it in 4 more years after 2 terms?

[Frank D. Lincoln]

14. Because Harris has already conceded to Trump.

Biden and Harris have promised a smooth transfer of power to the (new) Trump administration.

Upon his inauguration, Trump will implement Project 2025 and end our democracy as we've known it.

But, as I've stated, this all goes back to Mitch McConnell.

[Tickle]

24. I understand the point you

are making. I just hope project 25 doesn't get implemented

[MisterG]

40. Once again ...

... Democrats = Weak Sauce.

[Clouds Passing]

27. Joe literally should. That could be his greatest work!

[Earthrise]

12. Refusing to hold a hearing on Obama's SC was a first extreme step -

He’s been a Kingmaker for decades.

[2naSalit]

13. And I will...

Continue to curse him until my last breath.

[madamesilverspurs]

17. At the very least

he degraded the Senate, making it a pathetic shadow of what it should be. Since last night, he's probably drooling at the prospect of finishing the job and then abusing the corpse. He also owns 95% of the stink on the federal bench.


.

[Grammy23]

18. It is our duty to make sure

That McConnell’s tarnished legacy is recorded for posterity in every way possible. History must record who the players were in this tragedy. Not one of them should escape history’s tablet of shame. McConnell’s name can be at the top.

[Grumpy Old Guy]

22. He also stole a SCOTUS seat and abused the filibuster.

He announced on day one of Obama's presidency that their only goal was to make him a one term president. After that they blocked everything, including their own bills. He definitely broke our government.

[kacekwl]

23. One of many. n/t

[Clouds Passing]

25. Evil soul

Descendant of slaveowners? Likely.

[orleans]

30. radio was playing a clip of some shit he said today

re: trump.
i heard his voice and said: fuck you! why aren't you dead yet?

and changed the station

fuck him!

https://x.com/IsMitchDeadYet?

[bdamomma]

31. Yup

he put a stake right through the heart of democracy.

[czarjak]

32. For Mitch...

Fascism is close enough to his White-Supremacy.

[Joe_michigan]

33. As far as I am concerned ..

…the present GQP and this whole “end justifies the means attitude really came back to life with that asshole Newt Gingrich.

Each tear it got worse and worse and we end up what happened yesterday.

The whole goddamn crowd of them are guilty. McTurtle, Johnson, Kevin McCarthy and that’s only a few of the numerous guilty ones plus Robert’s and the RW Supremes acting as supporting players.

Last of course is then morons ( yes morons) who voted for them. I hope to hell you reap what you have sown you bastards.

[Botany]

36. McConnell was told of the Russian interference in our elections in 2016 and kept it hidden. (Our intell people)

McCarthy, Scalise, and Ryan were also well aware of Russia’s involvement with Trump too.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/paul-ryan-keeps-it-family-kevin-mccarthy-russia-trump

[uponit7771]

38. Then Merrick Garland said hold my beer