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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumstrump has been looking terrible. Anyone think he won't be with us much longer, and the dimwit will take the reins?
THAT IS THE PLAN
Trump the fucking moron is what he has always been - A USEFUL IDIOT
RidinWithHarris
(790 posts)I've imagined that a plan might exist to 25th-Amendment Trump's ass as soon as possible (if he's still alive to be sworn in).
The problem with that scenario is that Trump will only pick cabinet members specifically loyal to himself above all else. Can he be tricked into accepting people who will quickly betray him? Possibly. He's not to bright and easily fooled by flattery.
Orangepeel
(13,971 posts)so, yes
HarryM
(166 posts)Doing their part for the oligarchy. Just as Ronnie Rat Raygun was.
multigraincracker
(34,530 posts)Just the title.
NJCher
(38,419 posts)eom
exboyfil
(18,052 posts)Whoever is behind Vance (Thiel?) is the new Cheney. I do question whether Vance is stupid. You don't grow up in that part of the country and be a first generation college student that goes on to get an Ivy League law degree and be stupid.
Vance did what he needed to do to get on the ticket with Trump. He strikes me as more of an opportunist. I do wonder how far he will push his Christian fascism given who his wife is.
Trueblue1968
(18,338 posts)Before they can get sworn in. Maybe Kamala could take the Presidenty. lol
InstantGratification
(292 posts)On inauguration day that would mean the line of succession kicks in, the Speaker of the House would step up. President Mike Johnson or President Hakeem Jefferies depending on who has the House majority.
SomedayKindaLove
(1,108 posts)While Vance and the 2025ers will be quietly cooking up schemes in the basement. Just like during the Reagan years.
joshdawg
(2,728 posts)chomping at the bit hoping trump strokes out, dies, or is assassinated so he can take the reins and implement his project 2025 quicker than the orange anus.
vance is dumber'n a 5 pound bag of stupid. He makes eric look like a genius...........that is why trump picked him as v.p.
True Blue American
(18,252 posts)I never realized just how dumb and men JD is. Until he won.
TommieMommy
(1,316 posts)DFW
(56,972 posts)Trump would not be president in a year.
I still predict that.
Blue_Roses
(13,486 posts)but give or take. His health is terrible
Turbineguy
(38,578 posts)Trump implements the Project and goes.
True Blue American
(18,252 posts)Peter Theil and the billionaires own him.
But on the Democratic side I blame the media hysteria over one lapse in the debate of a man who had been working day and night and the Democrats who pushed Biden out. I understand Obama and Pelosi had their fingers in that.
What do the rest of you think?
PJMcK
(23,194 posts)Republicans got the trifecta. The U.S. is fucked.
InstantGratification
(292 posts)If Trump is giving them what they want and if he doesn't die in the meantime, they will try to keep him 2 years. That gets past the halfway point of the term, so it wouldn't count as a first term for Vance after the halfway point, leaving Vance eligible for 2 full terms after that. 10 years is plenty of time to purge the honest government employees, install yes men and secure Peter Thiel as the shadow emperor.
JI7
(91,029 posts)Vance is boring and will not have the cult support. At least we might be able to focus on issues.
get the red out
(13,645 posts)I think that JD and the Heritage Foundation plan on executing the 25th amendment as soon as it is feasible.
off-the-clock
(228 posts)Rstrstx
(1,578 posts)In 2025 I hope to God thats all he wants to do and wont have much use for governing. Best case scenario is that he IS tired and doesnt have the will to act on his worst impulses, maybe his age will work in our favor.
Perhaps the best thing we could be doing right now to jump-start the sabotage of his second term is by playing on his paranoia to discourage the Vances and Musks out there from holding any real power; convince him they are going to try and revolt on him at the first hint of a head cold.
A cabinet of dunces and yes-men who are more interested in photo-ops could be about the best we can hope for. If the head of DHS is some clown whose idea of mass deportations is a fluff piece on Fox over the arrests of three Haitians for shoplifting then go for it. Trump can sell that to his base all day long.
Unfortunately while his base is stupid enough to lap up the dog and pony shows Putin and China will have other ideas.
Dulcinea
(7,644 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:44 PM - Edit history (1)
When he finally kicks off & JD Couchbanger is elevated, this house of cards will come tumbling down. JD has nowhere near the salesmanship or ability to sway a crowd that McFelon has. He's a completely unlikable little prick. That will make a difference to the mouth-breathers that worship McFelon.
patricia92243
(12,886 posts)going anywhere. He will just stay on - crazy as a bat.
VMA131Marine
(4,691 posts)His sister Maryanne lived to be the oldest at 86 and she was in much better health than Trump is now.
Dem4life1234
(2,040 posts)Will take over.
Deminpenn
(16,370 posts)like Ozempic. Anyone else know if that's true?
Trump looks like he's losing weight. His face is thinner and the skin on his neck is loose and hanging. His suits look like they're a size too big now as well. For someone as vain about his appearance as he is, you'd think he''d at least have new suits and shirts that fit.
onenote
(44,862 posts)I would think that at some point folks would stop underestimating Trump. Indeed, there were posts here over the past couple of weeks proclaiming that Trump wouldn't be physically able to participate in any more rallies during the final days of the campaign. How did those predictions turn out?
Of course, at some point predictions of Trump's demise will be turn out to be right. I just wouldn't hold my breath.
And for the record, even if Trump's hand-picked cabinet turned on him and invoked the 25th amendment, he would resist in every way possible and I have serious doubts that the repubs in Congress, facing re-election in two years, would vote to remove him as would be necessary.
Ocelot II
(121,844 posts)In contrast, that much evil has a lot of staying power. He looks terrible, and given his junk-food-eating and non-exercising lifestyle he should have been called home to Satan years ago, so he could go any time. But for now and the indefinite future, that flabby old carcass is basically a life-support system for a bucket of irregularly-firing brain cells just functional enough to fuck up the world, with a little help from his friends.
MrWowWow
(431 posts)Last edited Fri Nov 8, 2024, 03:19 AM - Edit history (2)
The Pope through shady Vance, takes over after tramp strokes out. shady Vance will then
lead the 4th Reich and orchestrate a nuclear rapture.
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kerouac2
(758 posts)And now that the stress is off, he can sleep in and just do revenge and grifting and stealing. He really doesn't care about anything else. He's out of jail. His physical health will improve. Others below him will do whatever they want.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,695 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,985 posts)He's evil, unprincipled, and weird, but also intelligent. And he'll be around for many years to come. That makes him much more dangerous than Trump.
GaYellowDawg
(4,895 posts)Whether it's Trump or Vance, we're getting Project 2025'd into Russia 2.0, with all the white supremacy, Christian nationalism, jingoism, crony and robber capitalism, and oppression that comes with it.