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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow fucked are we? (Poll)
A half - kidding survey.
Might be helpful for evaluating the way forward, for myself at least.
244 votes, 4 passes | Time left: Unlimited | |
Not fucked at all | |
3 (1%) |
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Kind of fucked | |
11 (5%) |
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Very fucked | |
23 (9%) |
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Fucked like Chuck | |
2 (1%) |
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Totally fucked | |
36 (15%) |
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Beyond all concept of fucked | |
162 (66%) |
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Other (please explain) | |
7 (3%) |
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4 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided. | |
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Easterncedar
(3,648 posts)We are fuckety fuckety fuck fuck fucked.
But will live to fight another day. Because we must.
TheBlackAdder
(29,016 posts)Maeve
(43,037 posts)Bobstandard
(1,710 posts)were probably fucked for the rest of my lifetime. I hope thats not true for you.
Maeve
(43,037 posts)I got grandkids; it's all for them.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)So am I.
Kaleva
(38,541 posts)Maeve
(43,037 posts)We can find a way, if stupid doesn't hold us back
Kaleva
(38,541 posts)As humans are capable of adapting if they have the neans but hundreds of thousands, if not millions, will not be able to and will perish. Particularly vulnerable are those who are desperately poor and live in third world countries.
GPV
(73,074 posts)changes to our way of governing. Longer term, not having the USA to lead the way on climate change means we have lost our chance to mitigate its effects.
sarisataka
(21,271 posts)Blue Owl
(54,915 posts)duncang
(3,729 posts)Expiration date it has a decent chance of not affecting me for very long. But fubars my kids and grandkids.
Harker
(15,206 posts)and will likely, absent sufficient resistance, be fucked to the brink of perpetual fuckedness.
P.S. Who's Chuck, and how fucked is or was he?
Is the personification of fucked.
Harker
(15,206 posts)lees1975
(6,101 posts)In every possible way.
Kali
(55,876 posts)Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:44 PM - Edit history (1)
white male? you will be mostly ok
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)Over 65, depend on SS, get food stamps, Medicare.
I am seriously fucked.
Kali
(55,876 posts)but in general you can pass with the asshole citizens.
I'm on a few lists.
ForgedCrank
(2,381 posts)I'm banking on everyone else being wrong about this. I suppose it's just my way of dealing with the crushing loss.
I try very hard to remain positive when faced with stuff like this. It's really hard sometimes, but it's about the only tool I have to get through disappointing times. No offense intended, but I hope you are all as wrong as wrong can be when this is all over with.
I just have to set my new horizon on Nov 2028 and wait for it with anticipation. That's about all I can do really. I really do believe we will all get through this without serious issue.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)I shared your optimism.
ForgedCrank
(2,381 posts)when I say that there are a lot of days when I have to fake my way through it, and I'm certainly not always true to my own demands on myself. This week has had a couple of days like that. i just try to keep it to myself when it happens.
We can do this. We always manage.
In It to Win It
(9,765 posts)orangecrush
(22,122 posts)Although we are fucked, we can 100% count on Trump to fuck up so fucking badly that when mid terms come, it may be possible to unfuck ourselves with the blessing of all the people he fucked.
In It to Win It
(9,765 posts)orangecrush
(22,122 posts)We're gonna find out.
Different Drummer
(8,781 posts)orangecrush
(22,122 posts)Initech
(102,511 posts)lees1975
(6,101 posts)Sneederbunk
(15,392 posts)Cirsium
(1,154 posts)You are making light of a very serious situation.
It is catastrophic, devastating. The prospects or the future are unimaginably horrific.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)Laughter means hope is still alive.
Cirsium
(1,154 posts)Is it hope, or is it denial? Beyond that, of what use is hope? It is passive, it is magical thinking. Let's be honest about the situation, and lets get results and ever mind hope. Where the house on fire, you don't need hope to react. In fact, hope would probably get in the way. You can hope that a catastrophe doesn't happen, but when it does it is too late for hope.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:55 PM - Edit history (1)
I deny that I am defeated.
I deny them the satisfaction of seeing me give up.
Get used to it.
Cirsium
(1,154 posts)No, I will never get used to hope as a substitute for results, and I have seen 50 years of hope but diminishing results. Democrats hope. Republicans go for the throat. Don't hope, fight.
I refuse to deny that we are in a virtually hopeless situation, with no clear path out of the nightmare, and that we fight on because it is the only thing to do, whether or not we have hope.
Courage, determination, resolve are needed. There is no longer any time or eergy to waste on that old weak fall back, hope.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)The pandemic, homelessness, prison, and alcoholism.
I have 12 years of formal martial arts training.
I'll survive this bastard.
The real question is, will Trumpism survive me?
Cirsium
(1,154 posts)Defeat is not a state of mind, it is a material reality.
12 years of formal martial arts training would be no match for the Gestapo or SS. It is no match for MAGA.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)It wouldn't be the first time.
Cha
(305,853 posts)my phone from FB that stated..
WE ARE FUCKED AMERICA
I Liked it, though. Had 3,000 Likes so far.
Danmel
(5,264 posts)jfz9580m
(15,584 posts)Given my lousy record with polls since my attempt to reinvent myself as a bullish cheerleader in the last few weeks (after I felt that a Vance-Trump presidency would be unendurable hell and goddamn it if I believed hard enough and felt it in my gut that Harris could win), I am abstaining from polls..
I guess we shouldnt try things we know we are not very good at. I will revert to gloomy watchfulness..That was my main mode back when my username was nam78_two.
I got badly burnt out in 2011 and since then I wasnt able to think clearly a lot.
At least this horrible, horrible election seems to have jolted me back to reality. I feel like I used to prior to 2010 (which was around when I started feeling more and more out of depth and burning out. Far from unusual in PhDs. I have been fortunate in having good mentors and colleagues throughout but eh..science research is hard. Hey another reason for Trump to dismantle education entirely!).
I mean I dont think we are not in trouble. Pretty fucked I would think but as I said, since I am clearly shit at predictions of this sort anyway I am gonna quit
I shall go drown myself work now. I shall be back off and on to commiserate with everyone ;-/ .
Now that the very worst has happened at least there is no more uncertainty. They say humans deal worse with uncertainty than disaster.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)And I think you're pretty good at polls.
Tribetime
(6,418 posts)Before answering
electric_blue68
(18,685 posts)electric_blue68
(18,685 posts)LudwigPastorius
(11,072 posts)The younger you currently are, the less fucked you are, because your generation has more time to try to reverse the damage from the coming Big Darkness.
(of course, you also have to deal with accelerating climate change, so maybe it's a wash)
Meowmee
(6,118 posts)I was preparing myself for this, but I still hoped dems could win and that would have been the end of this for good. Still the reality is setting in, and it is affecting my health. I may not make it through much longer when it starts up again. No amount of preparation could prepare me for feeling of a ton of bricks weighing down on me.
We are getting prepared to leave if things get bad fast. First step renewed passports which we should have done already, but I had several years of severe trauma from which there is no real or complete recovery, and many legal and other issues to deal with and still do.
I watched in 2015 when it started and a fascist rose to power. No one challenged him the way they should have and now they are doing it all over again. It is truly insanity. The emperors clothes etc. No one has the courage to.
I can only hope for a miracle to save us all, to save me from being tortured continuously by the psycho who killed my father. I should have listened to him and left here years ago, hed be alive and we would be safe. Also wish we never came here of course.
I knew at some point there would be no real justice for my father or for many others, and many others were involved in his death, but to have the main culprit gone would have been enough for me to accept
It would have been something. A relief and weight lifted.
There have been more traumas these past few months which will also never be healed. I have seen a terrible change since this all started in the fabric of the society. Not that these issues werent there before but its much worse. I have seen the face of evil again in another sociopath. Its frightening.
Mike 03
(17,372 posts)preparing for this distinct possibility. I'm materially prepared so far as he doesn't wreck the economy, which I am beginning to suspect he can and will do--perhaps in fairly short order.
Despite the mental preparation, I woke up at 12:30 this morning shaking in a cold sweat. Despite imagining the worst-case scenario, this could be even worse than that, especially if we emulate "the Argentina economic model." And there are a hundred other things to worry about too, like the Retribution Tour. Ukraine. The emboldened, marauding gangs of incels, militias, etc...
Good luck to us all.
Meowmee
(6,118 posts)Im worried about the economy too, hopefully it wont be as bad as we think it could be. I woke up on election day feeling very nauseous and anxious. I brushed it off and thought to myself things are going to go well. Then I ate something and I felt better. I had to go out and vote and do things. But my brother had been telling me for two or three days that he thought it was going to go bad, that she would lose. He voted early. But I had started to feel I had some optimism. But then it all happened and my worst fears were realized. It was sort of like 2016 all over again a bit and I just couldnt believe that this nightmare was going to start all over again.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)It sounds like you know exactly what to expect.
SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)Oh, I see that they have been a DU Member for 2 whole weeks.
kerouac2
(744 posts)Will not get along as well or work as well with each other. They share hatred of many things and people, but they will back stab and eat each other and devolve into chaos. Already begun with likes of rfk and Haley. You think Cruz, Marco or any of them like trump or each other for that matter? Will be like a game of survivor among them, with alliances and betrayals. Hopefully they can't even agree on what temp to have their conference room at.
John Ludi
(593 posts)the way MAGA has been running the House: into the ground.
It's not just the systemic and organized cruelty that I'm worried about, it's also the chaos and mayhem; people who couldn't run a crappy fast food franchise with ten menu items are going to be in charge of an incredibly interdependent system full of nuances and subtleties. And they all hate each other, will be constantly feuding and pushing their own private agendas, and will be vying for favoritism from a guy who is practically dissolving before our very eyes.
Dis-integration.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)bluestarone
(18,405 posts)lifetime.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)After his first term.
Apparently this disease is antibiotic resistant.
bluestarone
(18,405 posts)WE WILL TAKE YOUR COUNTRY WITHOUT A SHOT FIRED! We are so helpless now after this election. I'm 77 never ever thought this could happen the United states of America. EDIT to add our fore fathers gave their lives for Democracy, and here we just let them take it.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)And I personally believe something is hokey about this
Mosby
(17,639 posts)It could be part of a series, like monthly.
orangecrush
(22,122 posts)It will be