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nolabear

(43,298 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:42 PM Nov 7

Watching Seattle local news I've never been so glad

I live in WA. We’re not just blue but damned blue. And though there’s a significant red population it’s in less populated areas. The state and local elections and initiatives reflect an absolute rejection of dumbass’s intentions.

There are local representatives and the mayor loudly rejecting and correcting dumbass’s depiction of Seattle as a wasteland. It’s actually thriving post-Covid shutdowns. There are big fears about the national fiats dumbass plans but we’ve got large regional advantages that might carry us through.

I write this not to gloat but to ask, no matter where you are what do you have that gives you hope you can make it through the FO part of FAFO for dumbass and his minions? Did I mention he’s a dumbass?

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Watching Seattle local news I've never been so glad (Original Post) nolabear Nov 7 OP
I'm in Washington also Faux pas Nov 7 #1
Mumble, mumble, mumble (Florida) Conjuay Nov 7 #2
Yeah I'm sorry about that. nolabear Nov 7 #9
If this is a real concern, you can easily acquire a medical card and get with the program. Intractable Nov 7 #11
I'm in CA, glad to live here, but moonscape Nov 7 #3
I saw Newsom's statement. I love his defiance. nolabear Nov 7 #10
Another fellow Washingtonian here montanacowboy Nov 7 #4
Lord, Reichart. I'll be glad to see him gone too. nolabear Nov 7 #12
I agree Andy823 Nov 7 #24
I've taken to calling him Third Reichert. Aristus Nov 8 #48
Checking in as well.... Tripper11 Nov 7 #5
I love being so close to Canada. nolabear Nov 7 #14
Same here....as for a right winger....bad news Tripper11 Nov 7 #19
I'll add to the list of good places to be right now. I'm really grateful that I live in Chicago. lees1975 Nov 7 #6
I miss Chicago. bamagal62 Nov 7 #8
2nd chicago. mopinko Nov 7 #13
That's right! I forgot Chicago! nolabear Nov 7 #15
I live in Texas and I think Blue_Roses Nov 7 #35
Cascadia! roamer65 Nov 7 #7
Looks more appealing all the time, don't it? nolabear Nov 7 #16
Wouldn't that be wonderful? oregonjen Nov 7 #18
Make that Oregon, Washington, California Disaffected Nov 7 #21
I'm jealous. Solly Mack Nov 7 #17
I'm sorry. We do have room. nolabear Nov 7 #20
:) Solly Mack Nov 7 #23
There has been talk GenThePerservering Nov 7 #22
I'm in WA also, although in Eastern WA right on the Idaho line. A Brand New World Nov 7 #25
I wish I could afford to move there. Liberal In Texas Nov 7 #26
It is expensive I'll admit. Kind of stunning. nolabear Nov 7 #28
I'm damn glad I live in Minnesota. Ocelot II Nov 7 #27
I love Minnesota, the bit I've been there. nolabear Nov 7 #29
In the cities it's kind of expensive, though nothing like NY or CA. Ocelot II Nov 7 #40
I feel the same way about Oregon. Not perfect, but way less stressful than a Trump state. jalan48 Nov 7 #30
Oregon's wonderful. Like WA a mixed populace nolabear Nov 7 #32
Yeah, lots of us old hippies jalan48 Nov 7 #33
My state is red Blue_Roses Nov 7 #31
I understand. It's darn near a country in itself. nolabear Nov 7 #34
I was born and raised Blue_Roses Nov 7 #38
I have a long time liberal friend outside of Dallas... electric_blue68 Nov 8 #42
Thank-you very much! Blue_Roses Nov 8 #45
Back At Ya' Lemon Lyman Nov 8 #44
Isn't there a sharp divide between Eastern and Western Washingtron? n/t totodeinhere Nov 7 #36
It's really Washington (west of the Cascades) and Western Idaho (east of the Cascades). meadowlander Nov 7 #37
Agreed! But we need to work hard to keep it that way. cmf Nov 7 #39
I wouldn't get too comfortable BannonsLiver Nov 7 #41
I know. I'm not comfortable at all. nolabear Nov 8 #46
Well, I'll represent NYC here. Born & bred! electric_blue68 Nov 8 #43
I've loved NYC every time I've been there. nolabear Nov 8 #47
Glad you had fun when you visited! My dad visited decades back when he was... electric_blue68 Nov 8 #49

Faux pas

(15,450 posts)
1. I'm in Washington also
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:52 PM
Nov 7

I voted D 🗳 all the way down the ballot (of course) and was extra thrilled when the D was a WOMAN.

Conjuay

(2,191 posts)
2. Mumble, mumble, mumble (Florida)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 02:57 PM
Nov 7

We couldn't even get legal pot approved so the next four years would be somewhat bearable.
-and we still got Scott.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
9. Yeah I'm sorry about that.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:37 PM
Nov 7

Scott—Jesus! I’m betting legal pot will happen though. Sad outcomes because I love Florida.

Intractable

(630 posts)
11. If this is a real concern, you can easily acquire a medical card and get with the program.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:40 PM
Nov 7

In Southern Florida, I just bought excellent, high-end greenery for $20/eighth.

The medical card and Doctor fees are about $200/yr.

moonscape

(5,409 posts)
3. I'm in CA, glad to live here, but
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:00 PM
Nov 7

he will take his revenge on us by not giving Fed aid for wildfires and all manner of other things. He hates us and I suspect it will show.

Instead of paper towels, he’ll throw a rake at us.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
10. I saw Newsom's statement. I love his defiance.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:39 PM
Nov 7

He might well be a future Presidential candidate. As to those fires I hope Cascadia gets its act together to take care of us all. If we’d form a coalition we’d be strong and could help one another.

montanacowboy

(6,357 posts)
4. Another fellow Washingtonian here
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:01 PM
Nov 7

We do live in a nicely blue area and can just ignore the eastern part of the state totally, in fact I wish they would just joint Idaho it would make a great match.
We have the great Bob Ferguson as our next governor with Dems all down the line.
Crushing all the anti environmental ballot issues into the dirt
and hopefully sending that asshole Dave Reichart once and for all into his long deserved retirement.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
12. Lord, Reichart. I'll be glad to see him gone too.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:41 PM
Nov 7

Eastern WA is important but it’s more land, less population. At least the wine industry will swing blue. 😄

Andy823

(11,533 posts)
24. I agree
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:01 PM
Nov 7

Eastern WA is important, I live there. I like that the population is low, though a lot of people are moving over here from the other side of the mountains.

We also have apples every place you look!

Aristus

(68,706 posts)
48. I've taken to calling him Third Reichert.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:24 AM
Nov 8

I wish that had caught on in public. But at least he was defeated. I hope he’s looking around for a bunker to shoot himself in.

Tripper11

(4,354 posts)
5. Checking in as well....
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:07 PM
Nov 7

and let me add I'm Canadian and have lived here with my family for over 25 years and when my Canadian mates start giving me grief about living in the States and asshole elected I tell them that living here in Western Washington is about as close as it comes to living in Canada as it gets here. More liberal, more accepting, etc etc. Great health care options all over the place.

Yeah we have the same issues as other cities, here and in Canada, but this is as safe as I feel as I would living back home.
All that said, if shit gets too real, I do have options to move back. But despite that it won't be easy. Canada is struggling, with the same issues, plus others. Healthcare in Canada needs a right proper overhaul to say the least. The impending downfall of Trudeau and the very real chance that Pierre Poilievre(Cdn version of trump) could be our next PM scares the hell out of me.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
14. I love being so close to Canada.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:44 PM
Nov 7

The beauty and resources matched with the independent attitude is lovely. I hope you don’t get a right winger in office.

Tripper11

(4,354 posts)
19. Same here....as for a right winger....bad news
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:19 PM
Nov 7

Trudeau is toast. He's done. Election coming soon and it's very likely the PC government will win. So yeah....it's a rash that's spreading around the world.

lees1975

(6,133 posts)
6. I'll add to the list of good places to be right now. I'm really grateful that I live in Chicago.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:19 PM
Nov 7

This was a conscious choice for my wife and I. She grew up in Missouri, I grew up in Arizona, and we spent 23 years of our lives in Texas, which became increasingly intolerable, even in Houston. And in spite of all of the bashing we get, there is a stream of people from Texas moving up this way. Well we have better wages and job growth for one thing. We have freedom for another. And down the hall in my building, one of our new neighbors is a Palestinian, a medical doctor originally from the West Bank, who is a gynecologist, top rated, from Baylor medical school. He is part of a whole practice that has come here from Texas.

mopinko

(72,033 posts)
13. 2nd chicago.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:42 PM
Nov 7

i life where i live cuz it’s diverse. when i 1st moved here, it was a hood that had been flipped. most of the remaining white ppl were bitter af. i looked for a place that couldnt b manipulated like that.

have to say, tho, he did better in il than i’d hoped.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
15. That's right! I forgot Chicago!
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:47 PM
Nov 7

I love the place. What a great mix of down to earth and educated, stubborn, hard working, American as all hell people! And music! The diaspora did Chicago good in that way.

Blue_Roses

(13,456 posts)
35. I live in Texas and I think
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:03 PM
Nov 7

I remember when you and your wife were moving. If it is you who I'm thinking about? Was it about 2-3 months ago? I was talking about wanting to move out of Texas.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
16. Looks more appealing all the time, don't it?
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 03:49 PM
Nov 7

Add California. I might have a shirt made just to smile and see who gets it. We’d have half the economy and the best ecology and more ports than any other part of the country.

GenThePerservering

(2,675 posts)
22. There has been talk
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:45 PM
Nov 7

In western WA (where I live) of doing some claw-back of all that red county welfare we send as most of those counties do basically nothing for themselves but sit on their fat asses. Some are a real mixture but very productive- kind of a mixture, and need a bit for the gaps. But some won't even fix their own damn roads. They're welcome to join Idaho.

A Brand New World

(1,134 posts)
25. I'm in WA also, although in Eastern WA right on the Idaho line.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:07 PM
Nov 7

I so appreciate being in a blue state. It is tough being in a red county but there is also a strong Democratic presence. We all co-exist peacefully, which is all you can ask for in this day and age.

Liberal In Texas

(14,689 posts)
26. I wish I could afford to move there.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:28 PM
Nov 7

I have family there now, my son and family moved there a few years ago. But now I'm way too old and we're not working. We've got some pretty good equity in our house, but not enough to afford the real estate in Seattle and move all our stuff.

I've loved Seattle since attending the Worlds Fair in 1962. It's a lovely area, I was just up almost a year ago now. But it is so far from here.


The Bluest Skies You've Ever Seen...♪

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
28. It is expensive I'll admit. Kind of stunning.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:50 PM
Nov 7

I’d hate to be selling in Texas and buying here. We’ve been here 37 years so have ridden the wave.

Ocelot II

(121,646 posts)
27. I'm damn glad I live in Minnesota.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:34 PM
Nov 7

We still have Tim Walz - I'm sorry about the circumstances of getting him back, but I'm glad he'll be with us. We have laws protecting women's reproductive rights; we're a safe haven for trans people; all of our kids get free school lunches; we don't have lunatics censoring school libraries. Minnesota was the first state in the midwest to legalize same-sex marriage and the first state to reject a constitutional amendment to ban it. And we haven't voted for a GOP presidential candidate in 52 years. It's true that there are parts of the state that are basically Alabama but cold, and we have a ways to go to get the Minneapolis Police Department to stop being racist assholes, overall it's a good place to live, especially if you stick to the cities.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
29. I love Minnesota, the bit I've been there.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:52 PM
Nov 7

There seems a sophisticated innocence to the folks, iykwim. Minnesota nice. And it’s beautiful! How’s the cost of living?

Ocelot II

(121,646 posts)
40. In the cities it's kind of expensive, though nothing like NY or CA.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 10:49 PM
Nov 7

State income tax and state and city sales taxes are higher than average, which causes whining among the GOP at the legislature, but you get what you pay for - good schools, decent state services, etc. My former employer merged with a bigger company headquartered in Atlanta, and I could have kept my job if I'd taken the transfer, but I chose early retirement rather than leave Minnesota. I like it here a lot.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
32. Oregon's wonderful. Like WA a mixed populace
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:55 PM
Nov 7

and more hippies. 😃 We’re down there fairly often and love the variety.

Blue_Roses

(13,456 posts)
31. My state is red
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 08:54 PM
Nov 7

and insane. Texas. I'm looking at blue states to move to. I just can't stay here any longer.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
34. I understand. It's darn near a country in itself.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:00 PM
Nov 7

And kind of a strange one. I cannot reconcile the culture and the politics.

Blue_Roses

(13,456 posts)
38. I was born and raised
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:11 PM
Nov 7

in Louisiana and always said I would never move here, yet here I am.

Texas had a democratic governor before Bush. It was Ann Richards.She was great, but it's gone down hill since.

I'm serious about moving and I'm doing my homework before I make a rash decision. I've actually been looking at Vermont. I'm a writer and I need a place that will inspire me. Texas is not it.

electric_blue68

(18,967 posts)
42. I have a long time liberal friend outside of Dallas...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 02:56 AM
Nov 8

her hubby turned into a Trumper. But she loves him, but furious when he voted for drumphf. Don't know how she's doing bc of a problem with FB, once I get back on I'll find out. She said in 2020 re Biden's election - I'd go dance in my yard but I might get shot.
I'm sure she's not a happy camper right now.

Her family's got ties to TX going many generations back. I don't think she'd ever leave. Her husband wouldn't.

I have a acquaintence in the Orlando area. Again, liberal who's very good friends w my TX friend.

Very much Good Luck to you in your search for a Blue State home!

Lemon Lyman

(1,477 posts)
44. Back At Ya'
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 05:17 AM
Nov 8

Feel the same here in Iowa. We went for President Obama twice. Since then it's been a nightmare.

meadowlander

(4,767 posts)
37. It's really Washington (west of the Cascades) and Western Idaho (east of the Cascades).
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:11 PM
Nov 7

Majority live in greater Seattle area which went for Kamala by 52 points.

cmf

(1,834 posts)
39. Agreed! But we need to work hard to keep it that way.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 09:30 PM
Nov 7

Seeing how other states shifted red so much this year, we need to avoid getting complacent. I know that the state Repug party is pretty busted, but you never know when they may get smart. Our whole open primary makes us vulnerable for dividing our votes. The whole public lands commissioner primary had me super nervous.

BannonsLiver

(18,280 posts)
41. I wouldn't get too comfortable
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 11:21 PM
Nov 7

If there’s things like a national abortion ban Washington will be no different than Texas on abortion. Nobody should kid themselves that his policies can’t hurt them because they live in blue states. Yes the west coast states are governed well. But that doesn’t mean they’re totally protected.

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
46. I know. I'm not comfortable at all.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:18 AM
Nov 8

But we still have something to offer and while we can, we will. And local govt has done us proud.

electric_blue68

(18,967 posts)
43. Well, I'll represent NYC here. Born & bred!
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 03:24 AM
Nov 8

I don't live in one of the drumphf centric areas like certain parts of Brooklyn, much of Staten Island (more central to south sections), certain Queens & Bronx sections. All the areas except S.I. are relatively on the smaller side.
I think Trumpers in Manhattan are more scattered than in any other of the 4 Burroughs.

I love my city. The mix of people, art, crafts, arcitecture, restaurants, parks, and Botanic Gardens, museums, live music, libraries, fashion, fascinating stores even if I can't buy much, big free events. A walker's city.

The beauty of the Hudson River, and our big northern most Manhattan parks of Ft Tryon, and Inwood. Believe it or not we can see egrets, herons, red tail hawks up in Inwood's shoreline. Supposedly owls. Of course, mallard ducks. Raccoons. My sis recently saw a ?woodchuck (not sure) but definitely an animal not seen before by her living there for decades.
A shout out to Propect Park in Brooklyn.

Endless things to experience!

nolabear

(43,298 posts)
47. I've loved NYC every time I've been there.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 10:21 AM
Nov 8

It’s stimulating in the best ways. I wish I was younger so I could go play there again.

electric_blue68

(18,967 posts)
49. Glad you had fun when you visited! My dad visited decades back when he was...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:07 AM
Nov 8

a regional sales manger for a lighting company.

He went up in your Space Needle! Since this was the '60s it was pretty new, then. 👍 So cool!

You have some gorgeous views on a good day.
Oh, silly me, just woke up a bit ago I remember I have a long time acquaintence in Seattle. 🙂

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