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malaise

(281,661 posts)
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 04:03 PM Nov 2024

THIS

Last edited Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:27 PM - Edit history (1)

H.L. Mencken, in the Baltimore Evening Star on July 25, 1920: “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and complete narcissistic moron.”

Newspaper clip here
https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-hl-mencken-article-26/21831908/

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THIS (Original Post) malaise Nov 2024 OP
Nailed it Pas-de-Calais Nov 2024 #1
H.L. Mencken was great in his time and still reads true. Narcissistic. Jeez, couldn't be more spot on. MMBeilis Nov 2024 #2
"Narcissistic" wasn't Mencken's word. Harker Nov 2024 #9
Added original clip link malaise Nov 2024 #12
I've been reading Mencken since the 70s... Harker Nov 2024 #16
so, what is the actual quote? msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #17
Post 7 has the whole piece reproduced... Harker Nov 2024 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author dpibel Nov 2024 #32
So......I stand "corrected"? MMBeilis Nov 2024 #19
Not at all. The description fits Trumpsky well. n/t Harker Nov 2024 #22
Harker stands corrected? dpibel Nov 2024 #33
You misunderstood. Harker isn't "I" in this case, it's me. MMBeilis Nov 2024 #38
Words of wisdom. multigraincracker Nov 2024 #3
The strength, or the weakness markodochartaigh Nov 2024 #4
WHOA!!! Jean Genie Nov 2024 #5
Yep. 100% truth relayerbob Nov 2024 #6
original didn't have narcisstic and it was the Sun Kali Nov 2024 #7
You are correct malaise Nov 2024 #11
Thank you for posting the entire piece, which is one of the clearest niyad Nov 2024 #14
what is the corrected quote? msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #18
last sentence at link Kali Nov 2024 #20
After the last comma, it reads: dpibel Nov 2024 #31
thank you! And yeah, that's a close descriptor of what's happened, but a little too kind. It's much worse, msfiddlestix Nov 2024 #39
But why did it have to happen in *my* lifetime? EnergizedLib Nov 2024 #8
You apparently haven't read Tolkein. malthaussen Nov 2024 #29
That is amazing foresight . surfered Nov 2024 #10
Ouch. rubbersole Nov 2024 #13
KNR. There was also his comment about not going broke underestimating niyad Nov 2024 #15
He Left off the word 'twice' Conjuay Nov 2024 #21
An oldie but a goodie. Thanks. (no text) returnee Nov 2024 #24
Wow! Martin68 Nov 2024 #25
Yes. cilla4progress Nov 2024 #26
Actually, Trump was right...America IS a shithole country. world wide wally Nov 2024 #35
This certainly applies to 2016. It DOES NOT describe 2024.... AZ8theist Nov 2024 #27
Got this one right. republianmushroom Nov 2024 #28
Mr Mencken was a journo... malthaussen Nov 2024 #30
There are so many good things in this. Orange Buffoon Nov 2024 #34
Indeed malaise Nov 2024 #37
Ah yes PatSeg Nov 2024 #36

MMBeilis

(421 posts)
2. H.L. Mencken was great in his time and still reads true. Narcissistic. Jeez, couldn't be more spot on.
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 05:21 PM
Nov 2024

Harker

(15,716 posts)
16. I've been reading Mencken since the 70s...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:40 PM
Nov 2024

and it can be frustrating.

When he nailed one, though, he nailed it good and hard!

Harker

(15,716 posts)
23. Post 7 has the whole piece reproduced...
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 07:57 PM
Nov 2024

And the quote is at the very end.

I trust you'll forgive my not pecking it out one fingered on my phone.

Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #17)

dpibel

(3,542 posts)
33. Harker stands corrected?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:09 PM
Nov 2024

Harker is correct.

The actual quote, reproduced at the link, is: "On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

Or did I misunderstand your post as to who stands corrected?

markodochartaigh

(2,424 posts)
4. The strength, or the weakness
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:02 PM
Nov 2024

of democracy is that sooner or later the people get the government that they deserve.

Kali

(56,126 posts)
7. original didn't have narcisstic and it was the Sun
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:11 PM
Nov 2024


https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-evening-sun-hl-mencken-article-26/21831908/

apologies for being pedantic, truly, I may be on this kick for a while. the forces of misinformation and inaccuracy have taken over the country and I just feel like I am going to be annoying everyone I know with corrections.


edit, also looks like it was on the 26th

niyad

(122,587 posts)
14. Thank you for posting the entire piece, which is one of the clearest
Thu Nov 7, 2024, 06:33 PM
Nov 2024

explanations of how we got here.

dpibel

(3,542 posts)
31. After the last comma, it reads:
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:06 PM
Nov 2024

"and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

msfiddlestix

(8,009 posts)
39. thank you! And yeah, that's a close descriptor of what's happened, but a little too kind. It's much worse,
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:46 AM
Nov 2024

malthaussen

(18,011 posts)
29. You apparently haven't read Tolkein.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:50 PM
Nov 2024

“I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.
"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us.”

-- Mal

cilla4progress

(26,240 posts)
26. Yes.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:38 AM
Nov 2024

I posted yesterday that America is a joke and a lie.

I should add circus, led by an unserious and very damaged man.

malthaussen

(18,011 posts)
30. Mr Mencken was a journo...
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:53 PM
Nov 2024

... he made a living writing stuff like that. Very funny and cynical, but ultimately a bit nihilistic for a grownup's tastes. That doesn't mean he was wrong -- in fact, his very nihilism would have enabled him to see things most didn't because they were too invested in the symbolism.

-- Mal

Orange Buffoon

(221 posts)
34. There are so many good things in this.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 01:52 PM
Nov 2024

(It's the first time I have read the entire thing.) In particular:
"But when a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense: he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even comprehending any save the most elemental—men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack, or count himself lost."

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