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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"Wait Calmly" a German article from Feb 2017 about the Trump-Hitler comparison
Is there reason to worry? No, thought Nikolaus Sieveking, an employee at Hamburg’s World Economy Archive. "I find the act of viewing Hitler’s chancellorship as a sensational event to be childish enough that I will leave that to his loyal followers," he wrote in his diary on Jan. 30, 1933.
Like Sieveking, many Germans didn’t initially recognize this date as a dramatic turning point. Few sensed what Hitler’s appointment as chancellor actually meant, and many reacted to the event with shocking indifference.
The chancellor of the presidential cabinet had changed twice in 1932 -- Heinrich Brüning was replaced in early June by Franz von Papen, who was replaced in early December by Kurt von Schleicher. People had almost gotten used to this tempo. Why should the Hitler government be anything more than just an episode? In the Wochenschau news programs shown in cinemas, the swearing-in of the new cabinet came last, after the major sporting events.
This, despite the fact that Hitler had plainly explained in "Mein Kampf" and countless speeches before 1933 what he wanted to do once in power: to abolish the democratic "system" of Weimar Germany, to "eradicate" Marxism (by which he meant both social democracy and communism) and to "remove" the Jews from Germany. As for foreign policy, he made no secret of the fact that he wanted to revise the Versailles Treaty and that his long-term goal was the conquering of "Lebensraum in the East."
Read more: https://www.zeit.de/wissen/geschichte/2017-02/adolf-hitler-chancellor-appointment-anniversary
This is a great article that I've held onto since 2017. I never thought that we would be going through this again, but here we are. The first Orange Admin was a dry run. Now they know what to do to destroy the remaining guardrails.

neverforget
(9,492 posts)neverforget
(9,492 posts)Maybe someone will care....or not.
neverforget
(9,492 posts)Maybe someone will care....or not.
mtmirror
(11 posts)Blue states generate 70% of America's economic output. On top of that: California alone would be the world's sixth largest economy if it were its own country - if Trump starts shooting civilians or tries to force blue states to bend to his will; if the SCOTUS that's completely "mask off" for Trump/Republicans and clearly doesn't give a damn about precedent or what they lied saying was "settled law" and comes out with a decision making abortion illegal nationwide, etc.: then why shouldn't blue state governors refuse to recognize it?
People keep saying, re: his win that it was the economy, and cost of living, which I personally 100% think was the case - even though, of course, the explosion of cost of living over not just the post-COVID era, but the last four decades, started really with Reagan's obliteration and tearing down of the New Deal paradigm as Reaganomics has largely been accepted and went unopposed across the political spectrum, leading to the quadrupling of the cost of even "public" college tuition since just the early 90s, the glorified invoice printers and bill collectors called 'health insurance' companies jacking up costs year after year, huge banks/corporations buying up housing and making it artificially scarce, etc.
So, of course voters just - as is seemingly usual - shot themselves directly in the foot, unless they're part of the top 0.1% of the wealthy or above, while also not understanding how congress works or that it even exists, apparently, and just blame current economic conditions and their feelings about day to day life on the president, who they expect to rule like a king or dictator.
Nonetheless, surveys/polling shows only ~12% of Americans support no exceptions to abortion, and about the same amount approve of the provisions of Project 2025 when they actually read through its key goals, or things like getting rid of/greatly crippling Social Security and Medicaid, and when Republicans inevitably pursue that agenda anyway - people will absolutely turn against them and realize what a horrific mistake they made. At that point, why should we, the blue states, who are literally helping take care of the red state's mismanagement and ill-health, by contributing the majority of American's economic output, just not play ball, anymore?
Are we really going to just sit around and let fascism take over when we have the biggest leverage of all - the economy - to use against the incoming regime (because lets not kid ourselves, that's the territory and dark "timeline" were now entering in America)?
neverforget
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He's going to overwhelm the system with bullshit. Think of it as "shock and awe" on the economy, federal government, civil rights and deportations. Trump and his propaganda machine will then blame Democrats and anyone who doesn't support him so that the people's anger is directed at anyone but him.
Cosmocat
(15,109 posts)NM
MrsCheaplaugh
(202 posts)nt
jeffreyi
(2,305 posts)trumpler and magazi.
neverforget
(9,492 posts)Fuck him and everyone that supports or voted for him. Y'all get what you deserve. Too bad everyone else has to suffer.
jeffreyi
(2,305 posts)People I have known and worked with for years who voted that way...I just do not feel any affection or respect for them anymore.