Merrick Garland . . . .

[Stinky The Clown]

. . . . slow walked EVERYTHING directly detrimental to the felonious fascist.

I hold him in the same regard as I do the felonious fascist.

[Tribetime]

1. God forbid he's seen as partisan

[RockRaven]

2. Blame also goes to the person who hired him for that job, and the gatekeepers

who approved him. Failed decision-making all around.

[Stinky The Clown]

4. I can't disagree

[LPBBEAR]

13. Nailed it.

[brush]

62. Have to admit you're correct. He was never right for that job.

I think Joe may have felt Garland was owed something since turtleman denied him a hearing for SCOTUS.

That was a mistake. Garland has been the worse AG ever. Period. He let trump delay, delay, delay and now won't ever be held accountable for trying to overthrow the government and for stealing hundreds of classified docs that no one knows what he did with them.

[jalan48]

3. I knew when McConnell voted to confirm him as AG that something was up.

[iemanja]

5. And his fan club, which was numerous, insisted that the delay didn't matter

It would make no difference. Well, of course it did, as I knew at the time. There was even one poster who said she didn't care if Trump was ever prosecuted. Well, she got her wishes. I hope she's pleased with the election results.

[Stinky The Clown]

10. While I agree with you, I shall refrain from blaming people like that for . . . .

. . . . anything apart from (perhaps) overzealous support of Joe Biden and his choices.

[PortTack]

17. President Biden recently said he was disappointed with his choice of AG

[Blue_Roses]

19. Now he tells us

[AllyCat]

39. No, he said it awhile ago.

Maybe summer?

[Wuddles440]

6. I too share your sentiments!

I almost wouldn't be surprised if the Orange King gives him a position in his administration or, at least, The Presidential Medal of Freedom.

[onecaliberal]

7. He should keep him because he did dumps bidding the entire Biden administration.

[CentralMass]

8. Ya, thanks for nothing Merrick. To use a colloquialism that an old friend of mine

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often uses, " He's as useless as tit's on a black Angus bull.

[poli-junkie]

9. Biden should have appointed an

interim atty general on Jan. 20th and had him/her indict the insurrection higher-ups along with the marauding thugs right away! Just like what happened in Brazil after a similar attempt when Bolsonaro didn’t get re-elected.

Biden should have been more aggressive from the start.

[Beastly Boy]

11. I think you will like Steve Bannon as an AG

He would be fast walking every arrest, detention, prosecution and conviction of thousands of people on Trump's shit list regardless of the hundreds of laws and statutes that have been passed and codified to restrain an AG, and he wouldn't give a shit about appearing impartial. There will be absolutely no doubt about his partiality.

Don't single out a scapegoat or two. They are all around you. It's the people you saw next to your voting booth. Nobody was slow walking them. It is not Garland's job to vote anyone in or out.

[markodochartaigh]

22. Maybe I'm just tired and not understanding your comment.

But it sounds like you are both sidesing this. There are not two sides to this issue. Only one side attempted to stop the counting of the electoral college votes, and in so doing, overthrow the US government.

[Beastly Boy]

37. No, this is not both sideism, it is an unabashed support and appreciation of Garland's tenure as AG.

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Anyone who accuses Garland of any slow walking is oblivious to an AG's role in the US justice system. An AG is not there to make laws, he is there to follow them to the letter.

To fast walk due process of law is to violate the law. This is what Garland bashers are calling for. And they are about to get their wish. Trump's AG will not be shy to ignore volumes comprising the Code of Laws of the United States, he will fast walk right past legal and judiciary checks and balances of the office of the AG, he will not bother with juries of the accused's peers or having to prove guilt beyond reasonable doubt. And there will be no mistaking or interpreting the in-your-face partiality of Trump's next AG.

We will fondly remember Garland's silly insistence on applying the law without fear or favor and his earnest commitment to show not even an appearance of partiality. The exact qualities that make a good AG, and the qualities still being mocked, even in this thread.

[AllyCat]

40. That's what we were asking for:

That he follow the law.

But he sure jumped right on was right on Hunter Biden, eh?!

[Beastly Boy]

46. Just as the law required him to do.

Just as any decent AG would have done: without fear or favor.

The exact opposite of what Trump's AG would be doing if the cokehead Beavis were to be caught with an illegally purchased gun.

[choie]

49. It took almost two years after the January 6th insurrection for Jack Smith to be appointed.

Two fucking years. I wonder how much evidence was destroyed during those two years? And you think Merrick Garland did his job well?

[Beastly Boy]

61. Do you have any fucking idea what it takes to appoint a fucking special counsel?

Garland did.

I gave a hint in the post you are replying to. It's called a fucking 28 CFR § 600.1. Look it up. it's a fucking eye opener.

Believe it or not, Garland knew of its existence. He knew exactly what the fuck he was doing and when. And fuck yeah, he did his job well.

[markodochartaigh]

64. Thank you for clarifying.

n/t

[SayItLoud]

59. He's gonna load up with women.

Wiles is just the first. Loose Cannon will be AG.

[58Sunliner]

12. He is worse in some ways, he knew the risks.

[bigtree]

14. huge, if true

...is not.

No matter, I guess, to critics that neither a conviction or charges keeps anyone from running or assuming office, even in jail..

But, I'm not seeing how Garland was supposed to bring charges early in his term based on, what, news reports and twitter posts? How would that piffle of a legal strategy get by this maga majority n the Supreme Court?

How do you convince grand juries, which the federal system relies on to bring charges forward, to recommend charges without the testimony and evidence that came in AFTER appeals were successfully fought by Garland's prosecutors in appeals courts hearings which were delayed for months and months?

Close aides and attorneys had their attorney client privileges stripped on the evidence GARLAND'S team argued before the judges, much of it overlapping his appointment of Smith.

The same host of close Trump WH attorney's and aides who are KEY WITNESSES in his indictments. Material seized in 2021 wasn't available until those appeals were completed successfully by Garland's team. Guiliani's phone, for instance, wasn't unlocked for YEARS after it was seized by the FBI. Jeffery Clark's, Jenna Ellis', John Eastman's.

People who claim Garland wasn't investigating the Trump WH early in his term have been proven wrong so many times... the 'Garland late' Garland slow walked refrain hasn't a shred of truth.

More than that, you really have to question the legal judgment of the claim Garland could just whip up a prosecution from the newspaper or twitter and put Trump in jail, tout de suite, as we watch the charges GRAND JURIES recommended after THEY took THEIR time deciding being just shredded and delayed further by the courts.

This construction of 'Garland late' of Garland indifferent' or any of the other ---- used to bash the DOJ which tasked Tom Windom to investigate the Trump WH in the fall of 2021, and hired Jack Smith to accelerate and deepen an already 'fast-moving investigation,' is an old and disproven trope.

receipts:




https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html


https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/11/politics/jack-smith-special-counsel-high-profile-moves-trump-criminal-investigations/index.html


Smith started with more evidence than what Mueller started with, and integrated into a fast moving investigation including a year long financial probe which had flown under the radar.

Took over a staff twice the size of Muellers, some 20 prosecutors.

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. Excellent, fact based refutation as always, bigtree

See my post #23 for link to emptywheel’s post election refutation of the Garland-blaming and bashing nonsense.

[Sogo]

15. I've had many uncharitable thoughts about Garland these last couple of days....

nt

[PortTack]

16. Yes...him having done a slow walk against tfg, he will have to share the blame for the demise of our country

[Blue Owl]

18. Merrick. Fucking. Garland.

Lamest ass ever.

[Polybius]

20. Serious question:

Let's say he didn't slow walk it, and Trump went to jail Summer of 2023. Do you think the outcome would have been different?

Biden said he only ran again because Trump was running again. If he announces last year that he's not running for re-election, who wins the primary? Harris? Gavin?

And how would they fare against DeSantis or Hailey?

[Sparkly]

24. Who knows, but justice would have been done.

This is just unforgivable.

[hadEnuf]

36. I agree.

We talk the talk, but walking the walk needs lots of work.

Prosecution, win or lose, would have stood for something. But then again, we didn't want to rile the MAGATs too badly, right?

Waste of time.

[choie]

51. It's called holding a criminal accountable for his crimes.

You know..justice.

[Polybius]

63. Agree 100%

But that wasn't my question.

[Efilroft Sul]

21. Merrick Garland is going to go down in American history as a villain.

Sure, not on the level of Donald Trump, who is a man of action. More like James Buchanan, who was an enabler of Southern secession and a man of inaction.

[Fiendish Thingy]

23. Grief induced nonsense- here's a reality check:

https://www.emptywheel.net/2024/11/06/trump-sold-grievance-and-america-liked-what-he-was-selling/

Once Trump got everyone hooked on his grievance drug, Merrick Garland was never going to make a difference.

I have tried, over and over, to explain how the investigation into Trump and his co-conspirators proceeded. More recently, I’ve explained how you couldn’t have charged Trump with insurrection — the only thing that would have disqualified him from running — until after May 2023, and had Jack Smith done so, it would have ended up exactly where we are here, with John Roberts delaying everything until after the election.

No effort to explain the process — the two years of exploiting phones, the months of January 6 Committee delay, the ten months of privilege fights, the month Elon Musk stole, or the eight months John Roberts bought Trump — none of that has mattered, of course. People needed an explanation for their own helplessness and Merrick Garland was the sparkle pony they hoped would save them.

But nothing Merrick Garland would have done would have mattered anyway.

Much, much more at link, with additional links to fact (as opposed to emotion) based evidence detailing how no amount of speed or aggressiveness on Garland’s part would have made any difference in the election because of Trump’s victim persona and the privilege obstacles and SCOTUS interference that would have happened on any timeline.

Flame away, I don’t care, I remain firmly a principled member of the reality based community.

[Orrex]

28. How unsurprising that Garland's cheerleaders continue to shake their pom-poms

while continuing to mock fellow DUers.

[Fiendish Thingy]

30. No cheerleading, just reality. Nt

[Orrex]

32. The reality is that cheerleaders never miss a chance to deride fellow DUers

God forbid someone express frustration or anxiety while an obvious criminal walks free. Much more important to ridicule and belittle those who dare to demonstrate normal human responses.

That kind of thing says a lot more about the scold than about the person they're scolding.

And we've seen (and continue to see) it countless times on DU.

I salute the cheerleaders in their undying quest to show that their opinions are more valid than anyone else's.

[Fiendish Thingy]

33. It is possible to express rage, disappointment and frustration without scapegoating

I know humans have an intense need to understand why things happen, and to know with certainty who is at fault, but that is not how reality works.

[Orrex]

34. Well that's really not up to you

Rather than mocking the "grief induced nonsense" of fellow Democrats who are enduring an unfolding and unprecedented trauma in real time, maybe dial back the smug condescension, because it's doing nothing but giving you a false sense of superiority.

And posting a link to a speculative article is hardly supporting your case. Garland would have made no difference? How the fuck does the author know that? That sounds a lot more like a cheerleader offering a post hoc rationale for the snailishness of Garland's efforts.

[choie]

56. Oh, but these are wise and incisive words from a blogger!

almost like from god on high.

[Skittles]

55. THEY MAKE ME SICK

almost as bad as Trump apologists

[Skittles]

26. FUCK HIM

WORTHLESS POS

[Orrex]

29. Brace for a visit from the cheerleaders

Thou Shalt Not Question The Glacial Pace Of Garland's Proceedings

[Skittles]

35. OH, FUCK THEM TOO

HOW FUCKING STUPID ARE THEY, UGH!!!!!!!!!!

[Orrex]

42. This is why we're pals

[moniss]

47. All Hail Merrick the Magnificent

and yes the attackers will be here shortly. But hey no need to expedite going to the 11th Circuit to request removal of a judge obviously dragging things out on a case of major disclosure of National Security secrets. Let's just wait awhile for the "process" they all said.

[Orrex]

48. And then it will be declared moot because he'll have access to those documents all over again

Which mean that anyone with a checkbook will have access to those documents all over again.

Interesting times.

[Skittles]

50. I notice they have been quite absent lately

dare we hope they are finally getting it? FUCK THEM ANYWAYS

[Orrex]

27. Someone with well-placed unnamed contacts used to attack people for doubting Garland

I myself was so attacked many times, all for daring to suggest that maybe just maybe things weren't progressing as quickly as might be warranted.

[Skittles]

38. haha they really don't have much ammunition now do they

FUCK THEM

[Orrex]

44. Strangely enough I haven't heard from them in a while.

Hmm.

[Skittles]

45. maybe they are fucking FINALLY getting it

fucking MORONS

[ecstatic]

31. His dereliction of duty is unforgivable. If it were any other republican that won, I'd be able to stomach it

But a twice impeached, convicted felon who tried to overthrow our country? A guy who will certainly succeed in killing everyone this time around? This is on Garland, Mitch, Senate Republicans, and Barr. They are all traitors who will be complicit in the destruction of our country. Fuck all of them.

[onecaliberal]

41. Steaming pile of malpractice shit.

[moniss]

43. Garland is a Federalist Society member and

look at him no differently than I look at a member of the the John Birch Society, the Citizen's Councils etc. When you dig back through these organizations and their founders, members and backers from their beginning you find the same sordid people coming up. Basically racists, white supremacists, bigots of many stripes, Libertarians, the oil tycoons, the intelligence community and of course former military who take it upon themselves to initiate and conduct their own foreign policy because they can get rich people to back them so that the interests of the rich are preserved.

[theplayer]

52. Typical democrat

Republicans play to win... By whatever means are necessary. Lying, cheating and frightening people are their currency. They would stop at nothing including murder too get and keep their power. On the other hand Democrats like f****** Merrick Garland play to be fair. Let's face it it's in our nature.
I was worried all along about immigration and the fact that Biden did allow a lot more undocumented in than Trump ever did. Republicans exploited the fears of people who mostly never met an undocumented immigrant. They stoked those fears for 4 years. They know fear works just like in England where people who never met immigrants voted to leave the European Union. You just can't overestimate fear and the absolute fact that Republicans will use it.
While I'm on a rant, it wasn't just immigration. When you allow criminals to commit their crimes with impunity, support trans who become women and then play in women's sports, Republicans saying you support prisoners getting trans operations (yes I know it was the law. I even think the first Trump administration enacted it... Not 100% sure about that) and allow wokeism to be exploited by right-wing hatemongers, you're fucked and you'll never win another election. I know those aren't issues that are of prime importance to Americans. They're cultural issues that have overwhelming support... And not just among right wingers. As I said a million times and I'm right these issues are why Democrats lose elections. Allowing criminals to run wild? Give me a fucking break. Allowing people who used to be men but are six foot four, massively bigger and more muscular than any woman to compete in women's sports, give me another fucking break. It's too late now. 4 years of trump will be unbelievably horrible but pale in comparison to what a right wing supreme Court for decades and decades and decades can and definitely will do. Before too long they will rule that an embryo is a person. They will abolish any gay rights, the right to privacy which is NOT guaranteed in the Constitution, the right to contraception, etc. Interracial marriage will remain legal because Clarence fucking Thomas has a personal stake in it. Good night and good luck to everybody.

[Skittles]

53. FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK THAT GUY

WORTHLESS POS

[tenderfoot]

54. He's buds with a lot of Fuckstick's lawyers. He deliberately botched the case.

https://sarahkendzior.substack.com/p/servants-of-the-mafia-state

[kelly1mm]

57. And he was once nominated to be a Supreme Court Justice ........ nt

[brush]

58. Agreed. His slow-walking helped trump tremendously.

If Garland had prosecuted both the MAL docs case and the J6 case immediately after taking office, guilty as hell trump would've been tried, convicted and jailed way before the corrupt SCOTUS judges got involved with their bullshit immunity ruling.

Garland, the worse AG every. Is he a rethug mole?

[Escurumbele]

60. I do remember when Garland 1st started to look at trump's crimes and did nothing, I wrote here in DU

about it, I said I was not pleased, and I felt Garland was betraying the country. I got so much resistance, many people here said "you don't know what you are talking about.", "these things take time, patience", and more. I hope we learned that in order to find the truth we must be objective, we have to see things for what they are.

I also hold Garland responsible, he has betrayed us, Biden should have removed him, Democrats must stop being so concerned about being called partisan and whatever republicans like to project because they don't care being called partisan, or corrupt, etc., they know they are all those things, so why should Democrats feel afraid to do the things they know they must do?

There will be "buyer's remorse" by mid-2025, many people who stupidly, and ignorantly voted for trump are going to find out they made the wrong choice, it happened in Venezuela to most people who voted for Chavez and refused to listen, the same thing is going to happen in the USA because people are going to suffer. I don't feel good about it, and like I told a person I know who voted for trump, I will be very happy if he becomes a great president who looks after the country's interests before his own, if the policies that get signed are those who help and protect the people, that he continues to support Ukraine against the aggressor from Russia, if he stops kissing Putin's butt, etc., but we all know he will be worst than he was during his first stunt as president.

We can only hope for a miracle, at least for those who believe in miracles.

[Stinky The Clown]

65. kick