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Dennis Donovan

(27,780 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:37 AM Nov 8

John Pavlovitz: It's time to demand a Swing State Hand Recount.

John Pavlovitz
And again... it defies understanding, not only here but in most of the swing states.

It's time to demand a #SwingStateHandRecount.

I Smoked Democracy
18h
Huh. So even the dems basically swept NC except for the president. Wild.

11:22 AM · Nov 8, 2024


I self-deleted an earlier tweet because I just don't think a swing state recount is remotely possible. Posting this because I respect Pavlovitz.



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oldtime dfl_er

(7,019 posts)
8. Sure
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:52 AM
Nov 8

Let's just roll over like we always do. Let's not ruffle any feathers. Let's not rock any boats. Let's not even whisper the word 'rigged'. Let's make sure the other side understands we'll never challenge anything in our futile quest to 'go high'. Let's let millions of people lose their health care, let's let millions of women lose their reproductive rights, let's let kids lose any chance to learn real American history.

Sure, let's stop this nonsense called democracy. Who needed it anyway? Kakistocracy is so much better.

tritsofme

(18,723 posts)
11. No, I'm saying let's not cry and stomp our feet like Trump-inspired toddlers.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:57 AM
Nov 8

While embracing ridiculous conspiracy theories.

oldtime dfl_er

(7,019 posts)
12. Your characterization
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:01 PM
Nov 8

of anyone who questions these questionable results is extremely insulting.

tritsofme

(18,723 posts)
13. Sometimes the truth hurts. Maybe it is a good indicator to not embrace such ridiculous Trump-style conspiracy theories?
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 12:04 PM
Nov 8

If you don’t want to be called out as such?

LiberalArkie

(16,702 posts)
3. Yep, but do we really want to do anything that might upset people? Trump warned that there would not be any
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:43 AM
Nov 8

bloodshed unless the Democrats ....

Dennis Donovan

(27,780 posts)
5. I just don't think there's enough support for a hand recount
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:46 AM
Nov 8

If some of the states were closer, then I'm sure the Dem lawyer brigade would be screaming for recounts. Not hearing anything from them.

LiberalArkie

(16,702 posts)
7. I am a computer geek going back before the PC's. I do not trust tabulators. I trust them more than
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:50 AM
Nov 8

paper ballots that are up to the counters opinion as to what the voter intended (Florida and who many others). But the tabulators can be massaged to indicate something different. But, if an audit is done of random tabulators and compared to the ballots inserted into them, I think something interesting would show up in this election.

BlueHurricane

(33 posts)
6. I agree
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:50 AM
Nov 8

I would feel better if they did that. Some of the results seem wild and confirming it would make me feel a lot more secure.

BoRaGard

(3,323 posts)
9. I'm in
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:53 AM
Nov 8

Why is it, do you suppose, that I have no trust in what the Felonious Fellator (R) and his comrades declare?

mopinko

(72,033 posts)
10. it's precisely because of their lies that we must do this, out in the open.
Fri Nov 8, 2024, 11:53 AM
Nov 8

they dont get to say- just trust me bro.
we all know that the things they accuse others of r things that they either have done or plan to do.
plus all tsf’s little hints.

sweeping this shit under the carpet is how democracy ends. ppl were scarred by their struggle to vote. those long lines on campuses r y the ‘youth vote’ never lives up to expectations, but no 1 puts 2+2 together. and they’re likely to never vote again.
they sure wont if it was all for naught. for not even a fight.

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