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(4,619 posts)So many they'll darken the sky.
LonePirate
(13,918 posts)Fuck this empathy that people on the left are supposed to have. The idiotic MAGA folk brought this on themselves despite everyone on the left screaming it from the heavens. 2025-2029 are going to be horrendous for everyone except the 1%ers. At least our side of the house knows what's coming and we will be prepared to react as best we can. MAGA can suffer for all I care as their tears and complaints will only make me smile.
onecaliberal
(36,318 posts)gordianot
(15,535 posts)Eventually their investments turn to shit. Inflation runs rampid many collapse. After Smoot Hawley tarrifs the Secret Service escorted from the White House with guns drawn
bikes and bunnies
(99 posts)The super rich benefit from recessions and depressions.
They buy up the now super cheap stock at firesale prices, and profit when the stock eventually goes back up.
J.P. Getty and Joe Kennedy did this during the Depression and obtained great wealth.
Source: Thom Hartmann (occasionally and unfairly maligned hereabouts by some for having been on RT for a few years, even though he is clearly on our side- he's how I found out about DU).
gordianot
(15,535 posts)It would be interesting to learn the ratio as they consolidated. You can just about guess who they will be. Get your news from the Murdoch empire, Musk just about any technology and Bezos sell and distributes what they want probably others waiting to cash in and pick up the spoils.
Hieronymus Phact
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Demobrat
(9,947 posts)The blue states will take care of their own and the red states can lie in the beds they made.
Hundreds of thousands of unwanted children born into poverty. The resulting drug addiction and crime. No healthcare. Unaffordable food, clothing, and shelter.
A massive brain drain as the intelligent and ambitious migrate to the coasts. Actually, I think thats already happened The smart ones go where the good schools and jobs are. The.dumbshits stay where they are and breed. Thats how we got MAGA.
I have no empathy for these dumbasses!
I never had any pity for MAGAts, they are stupid hateful people who deserve whatever bad happens to them. I suppose they are so dumb, they will find a way to blame it on Dems because their tiny brains are wired weird.
I blame non voters, too. Then and MAGAts are peas in the same pod.
I am all out of fucks to give for them. Ill save them for the people they try to hurt
lostnfound
(16,714 posts)DeSantis program gives up to $9000 PER CHILD to families that homeschool. So if you have 4-5 kids, thats $36,000 to $45,000 per year. He says that Florida has more homeschooled kids than any other state in the country 155,000 of them.
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/news/floridas-home-school-voucher-program-is-expected-to-double-in-size-next-year-36972030
They can use the money for TVs (up to 55
), kayaks, theme parks
swing sets, stationary bikes, treadmills, surfboards, woodworking supplies, animal husbandry supplies, gardening supplies
etc.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2023/09/01/florida-school-vouchers-can-pay-tvs-kayaks-theme-parks-is-that-ok/
https://go.stepupforstudents.org/hubfs/GUIDES/FTC%20FES-EO%20Purchasing%20Guide%202023-24.pdf
Initech
(102,511 posts)But I will say it will be fun to see MAGA fighting each other.
whopis01
(3,748 posts)I can't believe how many people I have heard saying "China will pay the tariffs, not us".
They really thought that if there is a 100% tariff on an item some company in China would sell it for $20 and then pay a $20 tariff.
marybourg
(13,214 posts)what we sell to them?
Coexist
(26,202 posts)liberalla
(10,089 posts)AKwannabe
(6,426 posts)Suckers
Envirogal
(176 posts)4catsmom
(291 posts)I just don't think it's fair that the rest of us have to suffer for it as well
central scrutinizer
(12,441 posts)No more ACA? Thousands will become homeless as medical debt wipes them out. Many more will just die because they cant afford routine checkups.
Mass deportations? Thousands of families broken up. Food costs through the roof as crops rot in the fields.
Tariffs? We pay those as corporations pass the costs. China pays nothing.
onecaliberal
(36,318 posts)VMA131Marine
(4,678 posts)Most goods imported from China will still be cheaper to make there than in the U.S. A lot of the stuff we dont even manufacture in the U.S. anymore. Not only that but, with unemployment at 4% there arent enough free workers to expand production much anyway. And that 4% is before we deport 11 million or 20 million or 30 million people.
Deporting that many people will lead to a housing glut that tanks residential real estate values. There is not one good thing that will come out of Trumps policies.
Nasruddin
(866 posts)And first time home buyers will be happier. If they have a job, in both cases.
radical noodle
(8,819 posts)Inflation causes interest rates to rise. It will probably affect everything.
progressoid
(50,787 posts)His billionaire buddies will tell him to stfu about that for a while.
radical noodle
(8,819 posts)We'll soon find out.
progressoid
(50,787 posts)I live in Iowa. His tariffs were devastating to the rural farm communities. To the tune of billions of dollars and loss of family farms. And yet they voted for him over and over and over.
radical noodle
(8,819 posts)and he's a good businessman. Those are the two biggest reasons I hear, and when I ask them what they voted for him to do... they usually don't have a clue. And then I get those two reasons I already mentioned. If they say he's a good businessman, I point out his failures and tell them he isn't a good businessman, he's a good con man. Crickets.
progressoid
(50,787 posts)My parents live in a bright red area and my Dad has this discussion many times with them. As fiscally conservative repubs they have no answer for his 12 billion dollar payment to farmers to fix his tariff fuck up.
They no longer see facts. All they know is that he's not a Democrat. And they are fed a constant fear and loathing of Democrats on media so they accept him.
radical noodle
(8,819 posts)I think much of it goes back to that. Good to hear your parents are still active.
Mossfern
(3,249 posts)If he doesn't impose tariffs and has promised to lower taxes - how is he planning to fund anything?
Magats think that this imbecile a business genius?
progressoid
(50,787 posts)Nasruddin
(866 posts)as well as, as you say, not feasible to make in the US anyway.
People are making handwaving type args about market forces and the like but a lot of the effect is going to be pure cost pressure on the consumers of those goods. For a while, at least. And a massive grifting opportunity for favorable tariff rates for various nations and officials of the US government setting those rates.
k55f5r
(458 posts)Is that we have laws against putting lead in vinyl, arsenic in hard plastic, and other such stupid rules. Trump will fix that.
pnwmom
(109,636 posts)undocumented workers.
VMA131Marine
(4,678 posts)who currently live somewhere, will lead to a large number of vacancies in all types of residential properties. That will put downward pressure on rental rates and home values.
CountMyVote4Reality
(217 posts)This will keep me going.
Coexist
(26,202 posts)keepthemhonestO
(458 posts)Right, me too!
johnnyfins
(1,481 posts)cost of these "Deportations". But hey, maybe you can stave off starvation by getting some good work building the new concentration camps.
Trueblue Texan
(2,999 posts)krkaufman
(13,759 posts)I figure this is the temporary aspect of the hardship promised by Musk.
Or maybe he couldn't imagine leopards eating HIS face.
Skittles
(160,304 posts)they simply believe what they are told - too bad the entire country has to pay for it
pansypoo53219
(21,789 posts)progressoid
(50,787 posts)SoCalDavidS
(10,599 posts)Don't ask me how, but obviously regardless of the explanation, their lemmings will buy it lock, stock and barrel.
Wiz Imp
(2,433 posts)Oh, it will work on some, but when the economy sinks into a depression, they ain't gonna be able to blame that on Biden and get away with it.
hatrack
(61,194 posts)Evading the laws of space and time, it's Clenis - ejaculating evil on Godly Americans and their dreams since 1992!!!!
AverageOldGuy
(2,169 posts). . . and, while I'll be suffering with them, I'll be ROTFLMAO at them. And poking fun at them every chance I get. FUCKEM!!
Trueblue Texan
(2,999 posts)I really needed that! LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!
Coexist
(26,202 posts)LNM
(1,130 posts)usedtobedemgurl
(1,448 posts)He was sick and tired of the missus bitching about it, so he looked it up to show her. Only then did he find out. I had an abusive husband to whom I would say things he ignored..... Until someone else Saud them. Only then was it valid.
All the magas reading this will think it is a joke and not listen or look it up. The only way they will figure it out is finding the info because they think they are going to show someone up and feel smart for it.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,811 posts)I hadn't been at this job for too long, and it hadn't had union certification all that long, either. We were in contract talks...blah blah blah. It seemed to the members (of which there were only 9 in our whole bargaining unit) that I knew what I was talking about, so they voted as I suggested....both to strike, and to end the strike. Seemed like a no-brainer to me. We'd proved our point and would strike if necessary, and the first year of a 3-year contract more than paid for the strike.
Anyway.
After the dust settled, I was talking with one of the management team with whom I got along famously, and it came to light that their bargaining team didn't know some very basic things about labour law in BC. Unbelievable.
It was a great job, in a very weird point in history. With the seniority raises (5% every 6 months until you qualified to take the national tech. certification exam and were then at 100% of top rate) and the contract raises that created the various tiers of wages, I made almost exactly triple my starting wage after 5 years and passing the cert. exam. You don't find deals like that any more.
keithbvadu2
(40,500 posts)Fox convinced my gf that China paid all those tariffs last time for Trump.
Iris
(16,142 posts)LilElf70
(545 posts)called MAGA MORONS!!!! Let the stupid shine!!!!
MayReasonRule
(1,934 posts)Emile
(30,781 posts)Evil won. I want trumpers to be really hurt. I want them to whine and complain.
Ysabel
(2,080 posts)yes I will sleep well tonight thinking on that - I like leopards!