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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis terrible election has shown the world who we are as a nation
Trumpism is who we are as a country in 2024. Petty, ignorant, angry, selfish, greedy, racist and misogynistic. That's not you nor I but it is the reflection our country has shown the world.
We shouldn't be surprised because that's the nature of this country since before its founding. The European explorers brought genocide and diseases to the native peoples while greedily stealing from them. Then they brought Africans as slaves creating the disgusting sin of racism that persists hundreds of years later.
The misogyny is incomprehensible to me-- especially so-called Women for Trump-- because it's ignorant (women are strong, resourceful and careful in their judgments) stupid (women are smart and work hard) and self-defeating (the "bros" whine that they can't get a date!). These men (and women!) are pathetic and weak. By demeaning and subjugating women, these (mostly) men fluff themselves up in their supposed manhood.
My favorite, however, is their ridiculous delusions of their patriotism and outrageous perceptions of our national superiority. These fools don't have a clue about patriotism and supporting our constitutional ideas. Instead, they have supported a man and a movement that has no use for the principles that the U.S. was founded upon.
These voters that supported Trump don't know very much about the world, in great part because so many Americans have never traveled overseas. If they would see the world, they would understand how backwards the U.S. has fallen. They would understand that other nations have improved on democracy while maintaining their cultural and societal histories. Other countries have better transportation better, cheaper healthcare and modern infrastructure. Besides, they would get to taste the many delicious flavors of the foods of the world which is one of the best ways to open one's mind. Greatest country in the world? Hmm, not really.
But now, thanks to the cretins and the slobs who couldn't be bothered to vote, we get to see the logical, terrifying and horrible results of our nation's history and the ignorant 51% that backed the rapist-fraudster-traitor-felon who has shown that he is the worst person America has ever offered to the world.
msongs
(70,363 posts)PJMcK
(23,194 posts)FakeNoose
(36,184 posts)I don't want to think about either possibility.
LiberaBlueDem
(1,166 posts)By about 200.000 votes over 3 states
Not much, is it
PJMcK
(23,194 posts)It's instructive that every country that has adopted a democratic government has based their election on the popular vote, that is, NONE OF THEM have used an Electoral College. Guess why? Simply, it's un-democratic and it's based on conditions that didn't exist in other countries, namely, slavery.
cachukis
(2,788 posts)Ocelot II
(121,844 posts)We're not the shining city on the hill and never have been, and, contrary to what so many of our favorite politicians keep telling us every time we fuck up, we're not "better than this." We're just people, not special, no more honorable or decent or enlightened than any other people. We have - or had - an innovative government structure with great potential, and sometimes it worked pretty well, but despite attempts at checks and balances those measures were never enough to prevent corruption or abuse. And amid all our arrogant chest-beating about being the best in the world at everything, we conveniently forget that our prosperity and success wouldn't have been possible without stolen labor and stolen land. But by denying our flaws and assuming we were doing everything right, we let the rot develop until, to our shock and horror it couldn't be hidden any more. And here we are. How do we fix it? Can we fix it?
PJMcK
(23,194 posts)Not with Trump and Vance as our leaders. They will dismantle our government. Our country will be a shell.
Stunning.
Vogon_Glory
(9,606 posts)if I know its not true. Seeing the lights of the City on a Hill go out again tears my heartstrings.
As for exceptionalism, current events in 2024-2025 America remind me of the sordid histories of other representative republics that self-destructed when their voters chose to follow a strongman.
I suspect some of the minds behind Trumps second coming know this too. Thats probably why they want to drastically curtail immigration: a lot of would-be immigrants come from countries where this sort of (excrement) happened before and they dont want naive Trump-voting American Anglos getting intellectual awakenings.
RockRaven
(16,606 posts)Americans insist on being blind to that, just as they insist on being blind to themselves.
AverageOldGuy
(2,254 posts)And it's the face of George Wallace, Father Coughlin, Sarah Palin, and Bull Connor.