I wonder if people realize that if another pandemic hits us...

[Tommy Carcetti]

…we’re not going to get a vaccine this time around.

[Wounded Bear]

1. Yep, probably true, especially if RFKjr has any part in our health care decisions...nt

[LisaL]

8. Yep. All vaccines could be banned if brain worm guy makes decisions.

NT

[jimfields33]

54. Luckily they occur every 100 years. We will all definitely be dead.

[Linda ladeewolf]

70. One occurred in 1957.

I was a small child then, but I remember being too sick to get to my bed upstairs. The bathroom was downstairs. I had to sleep downstairs for weeks. We had some type of flu then. My whole family slept in the living room because we could get up. We could barely eat. My aunt took care of us, she never got sick. If you look it up, it killed a lot of people too, though not like the one in 1918.

[jimfields33]

72. Sorry to hear that. I was thinking worldwide.

[Linda ladeewolf]

75. It was

At the time people didn’t really understand what was going on, and it was around the world. They judge everything by numbers this one only killed a few million, so not really talked about much.

[radical noodle]

77. That's one I missed

I was 10 that year but I don't remember ever being that sick around that time. I got everything else, though.

[brush]

78. Wasn't that the time of polio? As school kids we got polio vaccine on a sugar cube.

That cured it. Dr. Salk the developer became a national hero.

[Linda ladeewolf]

80. I believe it was around that time

Probably why the flu was not looked at. Polio was doing worse and considered a priority. So the flu remained in the background. I hope we never have that again, two at the same time. No one will know who is sick with what.

[GreenWave]

82. Was that what they called "triple pneumonia"?

I was placed on my death bed back then.

[Linda ladeewolf]

83. Here is some information

https://www.britannica.com/event/1957-flu-pandemic


Apparently it was related to the current bird flu strain, someway, I not a scientist, this article is pretty interesting.

[Conjuay]

85. My brother was hospitalized around that time

Because of a high fever that simply wouldn't break. Many years later found out it was legionnaires disease. There's a lot of stuff out there, just waiting for enough hosts.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Or flu shots. Someone should tell Big Pharma, their profits will tumble.

[HappyLarge]

40. Big Pharma does not make much profit on vaccines.

So, I don’t think they will much care.
Healthcare workers on the other hand—we will be dropping like flies if we have to do another pandemic. We haven’t really recovered from the PTSD of the last one.

[hatrack]

43. They don't really care about vaccines . . .

What they want are expensive drugs that let rich old people:

A. Grow hair
B. Look younger
C. Fuck

[Mossfern]

64. Wait....wait!

This 76yo woman wants to know which drug will make me look younger.
I'm pretty healthy looking as it is, but would love to take a 'youth pill' so younger people who
don't know me treat me like a child.

[bucolic_frolic]

63. But idling vaccines means zero profit and zero contribution to overhead from

that product line. Idle factories, furloughed workers, and the costs of carrying those factors of production. So what seems like a nothing burger can actually impact in a larger way than a simple measure of profit from vaccines.

[True Dough]

3. Ivermectin and Adderall

will be selling like hotcakes under this administration, however.

[newdeal2]

4. Hopefully we will be spared another once in a lifetime event

I’m getting tired of this shit.

[SoCalDavidS]

9. Well, We Weren't Spared The Once In 250 Year Event That Is Our Worst President Ever nt

[Silent Type]

5. My biggest concern is if we had another pandemic or huge disaster like a nuke, few will listen to government.

[Buckeyeblue]

10. Yep. People will attempt to carry on as if nothing is wrong

Because of that, the next one will kill millions of people.

[Silent Type]

14. I just hope it's the ignorant fools that suffer.

[Buckeyeblue]

19. Largely, they will. But they'll take plenty of us with them

[markodochartaigh]

38. Exactly.

I'm vaxxed and boosted, and with Asperger's, my superpower is social distancing. I keep careful track of my public exposure time. But 15 months ago I was in Publix for less than twenty minutes and I got covid and it damn near killed me. I lost taste and smell for two months and even now my strength and stamina are no where near what they were before.

[Meadowoak]

29. They were the ones that spread it. They refused vaccines,

They refused to wear a mask, and expected to be welcomed everywhere.

[Evolve Dammit]

57. A really good point, since so much of the last 9 years is making people distrust all government. And of course

Orange Julius wants to tear it down anyhow, and additionally has stated he wanted the economy to collapse. What could go wrong??

[brush]

79. We'll know not to listen to trump as he totally bungled the covid pandemic. Tens of thousands died.

As for the rest of his cabal, none of them have any experience in disease control. Certainly not the brain worm, anti-vaxx idiot RFK jr.

Dr. Fauci is retired and they won't bring him back, though they would need to if another strikes.

[Walleye]

6. I'm sure we will have another major crisis in the next four years, and I'm certain Trump will fuck it up

[SoCalDavidS]

7. Canada? Mexico?

I realize that not everybody has the means to travel that far for just a shot, but I imagine those who could, would still have a possibility to get the vaccine, in a "normal" country.

[Traildogbob]

15. We may be

Treated as women seeking abortions under this regime. State lines, border patrols, could have checkpoints, and also like women, bounty’s and rewards for turning in vaxxers.

[Ysabel]

16. yeah my middle brother used to get...

medicine from Canada. We are closer to Canada so I suppose that's an option for me...

[a kennedy]

17. Yippie, I got my "Enhanced Drivers License".....I can DRIVE into Mexico AND Canada!!!!!

It doesn’t work like a passport, but I can drive into them both. Gonna have to seriously think about it.

[defacto7]

24. But who is going to make it?

If it's made in Europe, they will cover themselves first then the 400 million of us will be more than they'll be able to supply. If China makes it ... it probably won't get in, won't be good enough and tariffs??

[LuckyCharms]

12. I don't know. Is it?

[Ysabel]

13. Maybe we can band together somehow and get some kind of independent health access???

I don't know / this is probably wishful thinking on my part...

[Captain Zero]

76. I've said all along: COOPERATIVES

Form non-profit cooperatives.
Relatively cheap to get in for a limited time. Then more expensive for a while.

Then close it at a certain date.

[mahina]

81. Interesting idea. How would that be different in terms of access, would our hospitals be able to do the same thing

[0rganism]

18. It won't matter, the rulers will assure us everything is fine

LOWEST MORTALITY RATES EVER THANKS TO GLORIOUS LEADER WE ARE ALL IMMUNE PRAISE JESUS

If you're still worried, take your ivermectin and be quiet.

[CincyDem]

28. "Who you gonna believe...me or your lying eyes" will become the mantra of this administration.

[Evolve Dammit]

58. bleach!!

[southmost]

20. why do huge crisis happen on rethuglican's watch?

[Meadowoak]

33. Because they can't manage a crisis. They always make it worse.

[FakeNoose]

56. Because they can't govern

[surfered]

21. I'm stocking up on bleach before tariffs raise its price

[Rebl2]

22. Wait until there

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are thousands of babies and children that start dying from lack of vaccines because they can’t get them. Wait until grandma and grandpa die as well because they can’t get their flu, RSV, and Covid vaccinations. Maybe people will wake up when this starts to happen.

[Evolve Dammit]

59. maybe, but I'm doubtful after the pandemic.

[onecaliberal]

23. My Governor will get it from a normal country.

Blue state governors should start relationships and agreements with other countries.

[RandomNumbers]

25. I am thanking whatever higher power there is, that I got full-remote

status for my job.

I had to fight for it. I won that fight due to specifics of my circumstances. It is obviously not open to everyone anyway.

I feel bad for the good people who don't deserve what is coming, and who will not have much protection. For those that voted for the shit monster, not so much.

[Freethinker65]

26. We might not be first in line, but those in power and the wealthiest will have access to best available practices/care.

[Evolve Dammit]

60. and Putin of course. Drumpf will make sure he gets the best testing and treatments. F Americans. nt

[BittyJenkins]

27. H5N1 is lurking and

a pandemic is possible.
My daughter is the head of our county epidemiology department and is very worried about what this administration will bring. Getting flu shots is the best way to prevent it from becoming a pandemic. Farm workers are the ones who are most at risk. Planning, funding and getting vaccinations are very important right now.

In walks RFKjr and bleach man.

[Linda ladeewolf]

30. A pandemic

Is a terrifying thing if you think about it. I think I’m going to start making some extra masks just to keep around. I wonder if this will bring back wearing gloves for ladies? Remember the white gloves we all used to wear? There were reasons for that, only most didn’t know. Back in the early 1900s and late 1800s and for centuries before that woman and men wore gloves, year round. To avoid touching things that were dirty. Even thin cotton gloves will protect your hands to an extent, especially if there are traces of bleach in them after washing and you can wash them by hand if you have to. Maybe we should start a fashion trend, Just some thoughts from an old fart.

[littlemissmartypants]

66. I have pictures of myself as a child...

At Easter all dressed up in a hat and gloves. Little girl gloves. My mother was very serious about us looking put together even if I was only five years old.

I miss the days when the majority of the general public actually cared about what they looked like when they went shopping and out to socialize. I wonder why things changed.

What's driving the change? Is it apathy, defiance, ignorance, self expression, financial constraints or some combinations of them all?

I know time changes everything. But how does one account for the seemingly generalized deterioration of what many see as self respect? I wonder. But then I wonder about a lot of things.

I miss many things rooted in traditions but I definitely miss my mother more. She was my best friend.

❤️pants

[Faux pas]

31. They're hoping

we all die and all of this will be their's to destroy faster. Greed is the deadliest sin

[SupportSanity]

32. Yeh... Stock up on ivermectin.

Horses will just have to live with worms.

[Crowman2009]

34. MAGA will learn the hard way that they are not immune.

[StarryNite]

35. They think their dictator cares about them and will protect them.

They don't care and some even want others to suffer. The leopards will get very fat feasting off their faces.

[keithbvadu2]

36. Do vaccines work?

Do vaccines work?

[Joinfortmill]

37. The anti-facts crowd is running the show now.

[sky_masterson]

39. We will all be given Feline dewormer for that.

After they hang Fauci that is.

[Oopsie Daisy]

41. Invest in cemeteries, backhoes, vaults, caskets, embalming fluid and crematoriums *

* if anyone wants to improve their retirement accounts during the next pandemic. That's where the money and profits will be!

[keithbvadu2]

68. and refrigerated trucks to be used as temporary morgues.

[Oopsie Daisy]

69. Yes, I forgot about that. Good thinking!

[moniss]

42. You can look for RFK

to make childhood vaccinations optional at the very least. That guarantees we will have outbreaks of those diseases.

[lapfog_1]

44. rumor is that the FDA will not certify any childhood vaccine as "safe"

welcome to polio V2 on steroids. mumps measles... hey hey hey

[Wiz Imp]

49. smallpox, Chckenpox, Diphtheria, Hepatitius, HPV, Tetanus, Rubella, Whooping Cough (and still more others)

So glad I don't and won't have any children made to suffer because of this.

[Wiz Imp]

46. Good point. Thankfully, another pandemic in the next 4 years is highly unlikely. However, a major crisis of some sort

is almost guaranteed.

[lapfog_1]

52. Another related Corona virus pandemic is unlikely

a resurgence of childhood disease due to non-vaccinated children... that is quite likely.

When RFKjr went to preach his ignorant vaccine statements in American Samoa... and got the population to stop vaccinating their children... 83 children died from preventable diseases.

https://www.annenbergpublicpolicycenter.org/fact-checking-presidential-candidate-robert-f-kennedy-jr-on-vaccines-autism-and-covid-19/

Kennedy also played a part in one of the worst measles outbreaks in recent memory. In 2018, two infants in American Samoa died when nurses accidentally prepared the combined measles, mumps and rubella, or MMR, vaccine with expired muscle relaxant rather than water. The Samoan government temporarily suspended the vaccination program, and anti-vaccine advocates — including Kennedy and his nonprofit — flooded the area with misinformation. The vaccination rate dropped to a dangerously low level. The next year, when a traveler brought measles to the islands, the disease tore through the population, sickening more than 5,700 people and killing 83, most of them young children.

[Wiz Imp]

62. Yikes! I knew about the measles spikes in recent years but not about the child deaths in Samoa

[stollen]

47. I just git flu and COVID vaccines yesterday.

Prepare for that.

[stollen]

48. I just got flu and COVID vaccines

Prepare for that.

[FirstLight]

50. ...you mean WHEN...

The bird flu thing has already crossed lines into mammals and humans...it's only a matter of time. (wouldnt it be fun if covid and bird flu decided to merge into somethnig even more fun? ...I have no idea if that's possible, just a horror scenario in my head)

But yeah. I guess we all better stock up on, vitamins!

[3825-87867]

51. ...we're not going to get a vaccine???

But guess who will get all the meds they need?

[keep_left]

61. Yep. Trump got at least 16 courses of the Regeneron antibody therapy...

...for Covid, along with other heroic measures. He absolutely would have died without them. At the very same time, Trump and the MAGA chuds turned Covid into another front in the culture war.

https://democraticunderground.com/100219490667#post23

[GB_RN]

53. But, But...

Vaccines are bad, mmkay? George Soros funded, Bill Gates designed and Tim Cook-built microchips in the vaccine will make us feel the 5G burning us. The gub’mint will be able to track you. Vaccines are the Devil’s mark! You should be free to have your kids spread measles, mumps, Rubella, polio, whooping cough, RSV, chicken pox, the flu, COVID and the plague without bein’ harassed by those goody-two shoes libruls! Blah, blah, argle-bargle!!!!1!1!1!!1!1!

[Evolve Dammit]

55. They don't care. About almost anything seemingly

[ananda]

65. I think vaccines will still be produced actually, but...

the government won't fund them or assure their safety..

and they will be priced as pharma sees fit.

[Iggo]

67. People still don't believe there was a pandemic.

[Rebl2]

73. 🙄

Well they must have been brain dead. I don’t know anyone who didn’t have a friend, family member or coworker die from Covid. My parents were in a nursing home then and there were many people that died over two years time. After the vaccines came along fewer died from Covid.

[B.See]

71. Vaccine?? Hell, he and his maga klan might not even admit to one.

[Linda ladeewolf]

74. Vaccines are important

I plan on getting every one available while I can. I got flu and tetanus a couple of months ago. There are more I want.

[Meowmee]

84. Buy good masks now

Do as much preparation as you can, buy masks etc. We were misinformed the first time with a bunch of idiots telling us to wash our hands when what we needed was a mask, a good one… get all the vaccinations that you can now that you need for everything…we don’t know what is going to happen. It’s possible if you haven’t left the country, that you may be able to travel somewhere else to get vaccinations eventually.

[orangecrush]

86. Bingo

And without a viable CDC watching for it, it's nearly a sure bet.

[druidity33]

87. It will be next year unfortunately...

Bird Flu is currently swamping the waste water of LA. Local officials are near to freaking out. There is already a bird flu vaccine though... so that's something.

[gemini_liberal]

88. I also hope those with survivor bias or even nostalgia for that era...

...realise that, if it happens again, it won't be another case of getting stimulus checks, while staying at home, day-drinking, watching videos/streams, playing video games and pursuing fun at-home hobbies.

It's now the opinion of those on the Right that was actually the wrong approach because it offended the deniers and, more importantly, slightly slowed the wheels of capitalism for a minute.

Next time, Their approach will be to just push through it ("get your ass to work and make us money" ) and take whatever losses there are as a mere statistical sacrifice to keeping the machine running.