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KentuckyWoman

(6,875 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:17 PM Saturday

America DID NOT vote for Trump

Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:57 PM - Edit history (1)

He "won" an election - assuming all those votes are real. That doesn't have anything to do with having widespread American support. Voter participation is abysmal in the US. We make it a point to make the 90% stand in long lines. 2020 proved if we make it easier to vote, more people will. The added tends to go Democratic.


340 million Americans. Trump had 74 million votes. That comes out in the neighborhood of 20%.

250 million Americans over 18 could register and vote if they wanted to. 74 million voted for Trump. That still comes out to well under 30% of American cared enough to go vote for Trump.

There is no mandate. 70% of the American public who did not sign up for it, will be subject to the whims of a maniac. It seems to me the goal for the next 4 years is how to reach all those people. Get them registered, get them informed, get them to the polls. We can't reach them all. We just need to reach enough.



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Ocelot II

(120,644 posts)
1. A whole bunch of lazy dumbfucks didn't bother to vote,
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:19 PM
Saturday

and by failing to vote they effectively voted for Trump since they could have voted for the alternative but didn't. So, sorry, but America did vote for Trump, and fuck us for doing it.

TheKentuckian

(26,021 posts)
2. For all practical purposes those that don't show up may as well not exist
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:22 PM
Saturday

and it is their own fault in most cases.

HUAJIAO

(2,573 posts)
11. But you said ""250 million Americans under 18 could register and vote if they wanted to. "
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:46 PM
Saturday

But there aren't even a TOTAL of 250 million Americans under 18. And under 18 you cannot vote...

Zeitghost

(4,489 posts)
5. In that case
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:28 PM
Saturday

The American people never voted for Biden, Obama, Clinton or any other President to have ever served.


We had the second largest turnout of all time and we lost across the board. We lost ground in almost every state and amongst almost every demographic group. We need to address why that was and stop making these stupid pointless arguments and engaging in pitiful election denial.

KentuckyWoman

(6,875 posts)
7. I don't mean to deny anything.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:34 PM
Saturday

2 parties squabble over the same group of American who will go vote. The majority of Americans aren't voting at all. It seems to me expanding participation should be part of the conversation in moving forward.

Judging by the instant response to my post... DU doesn't agree. And that's OK.

leftstreet

(36,265 posts)
9. You're right though. "America" didn't vote for any of them.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:38 PM
Saturday

A percentage of Americans did

But when people say "Americans chose this..." that's not true.

We can't really say what almost half of Americans would choose

MrWowWow

(322 posts)
8. There Won't Be Another Presidential Election
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:35 PM
Saturday

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At least not one that's free, fair and open. It's naive to believe that there will be. Maybe in the next decade. Maybe...
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"One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge—even to ourselves—that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back."

-Dr. Carl Sagan




Jack Valentino

(1,275 posts)
20. Oh, there WILL be another presidential election, one way or another.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:50 PM
Saturday

It might not be decided with 'ballots'.

BigMin28

(1,421 posts)
10. All that matters
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 12:45 PM
Saturday

Is he won, by hook or crook is beside the point. Even if we find overwhelming evidence of the vote being tampered with, in our current environment, nothing would change. He and the GOP will never suffer iany consequences in America. History proves me right.

Igel

(36,045 posts)
13. Same logic and argumentation holds for 2020 and 2012.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 02:40 PM
Saturday

Not sure that's what you want to argue--I rather doubt it, actually--but one follows ineluctably from the other.

Meowmee

(5,302 posts)
16. Imo
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:11 PM
Saturday

Yes they did vote for him and he won. Also it does not matter imo, why they voted for him in terms of the effect of electing him.

Du916

(9 posts)
19. Yes it did.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:46 PM
Saturday

Those who did not vote as much as voted through inaction. The majority of American voters elected Trump. The fact is that America is no better than any other third-world country, and is populated by vast numbers of morons, racists and misogynists.

Jack Valentino

(1,275 posts)
21. I hear ya. Quite possibly more eligible voters sat this one out, than those who
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:53 PM
Saturday

cast a ballot. Seems close to 50-50 this year, but I haven't researched the numbers exactly.

Clearly those voting for Trump would have been no more than 30%, probably closer to 25%

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