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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have never been more thankful for the "Ignore" feature
So much kooky, irrational, Q adjacent nonsense flooding the site in the past couple of days.
Going down conspiracy rabbit holes as a means of coping with the uncertainty ahead only diminishes our collective power as we seek to regroup to address the coming challenges.
WarGamer
(15,816 posts)There's the troll strategy of posting shit so batshit crazy, makes the whole community look bad.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,883 posts)I think it's just people getting seeking simple answers for the tragic election who get sucked into irrational CT's.
LisaM
(28,791 posts)who somehow don't subscribe to the "Democratic" part of Democratic Underground. They seem to think that caucusing with Democrats is the same thing as being a Democrat.
There are also high count posters who cross-post to multiple groups. I am not really a fan of that myself (I open DU sometimes and see the exact same post as the most recent post repeated four times on the landing pages), so post count isn't always a true reflection.
AllyCat
(17,263 posts)Quite certain they would out themselves around this election.
There are several possible motivations for these "the world is over" posts.
Disaffected
(5,193 posts)"Professor, without knowing precisely what the danger is, would you say it's time for our viewers to crack each other's heads open and feast on the goo inside? Yes I would, Kent."
malaise
(279,102 posts)of the most vile conspiracy theorists.
Just saying.
Asking questions about what really happened here is rational behavior.
Disaffected
(5,193 posts)making dire predictions based only on speculation or rumor is another.
malaise
(279,102 posts)Its easy
Fiendish Thingy
(18,883 posts)Occam's Razor is your friend.
SCantiGOP
(14,311 posts)"I don't have any proof, but............."
Or their main source of proof is the old 'gut feeling.'
lamp_shade
(15,101 posts)Ocelot II
(121,648 posts)make us feel better in the immediate aftermath. It will take a long time to sort out, and I doubt very much that there was one single cause but a confluence of many things, including an inaccurate perception of the state of the economy; racism, misogyny; a whole lot of propaganda from both internal and external sources; uninformed voters; and people who could have voted but didn't. There will also be a whole lot of internal finger-pointing, which has already started. Trying to blame the whole mess on hacked voting systems without evidence makes us look as foolish as Trump's people in the aftermath of 2020, where those claims got shot down in 60+ lawsuits because there wasn't any supporting evidence. That's not to say there should be no examination of unusual patterns in unexpected places, but it's a pretty big chasm to leap in order to claim the debacle was the result of nationwide vote tampering. Rather than chasing our tails to find a unified theory that doesn't involve taking a hard look at what went wrong politically and which might make us Democrats feel bad for having misjudged the national Zeitgeist, let's let the dust settle and analyze patterns and strategies before pouncing on a conclusion which might be false and lead to more mistakes in the future.
Ponietz
(3,322 posts)Doesnt surprise me.
Native
(6,681 posts)FakeNoose
(36,066 posts)Not when someone posts a crazy conspiracy theory, but when someone won't give up an argument. There are a small number of DUers who don't know when to let it go. They won't take a chill pill, and if they say the same thing twice, that's enough.
After that I put them on ignore where they belong.
Mme. Defarge
(8,574 posts)since becoming a DU member.
Prairie Gates
(3,600 posts)really something.
That said, your reason for ignoring it it also a joke: there is no collective power going forward. There will be years, and maybe a generation, of subjection to MAGA power. That's it. That's probably why people have gone kooky sideways. It's a bleak prospect for the foreseeable future.
LisaM
(28,791 posts)They aren't the same thing.
I would also argue that voter depression is more insidious than suppression. People somehow lost the motivation to vote and forget that it's a responsibility or they put on blinders like they did in Dearborn and decide that they'll "show us" by sitting it out.
Native
(6,681 posts)They live, breathe, and eat conspiracy theories.
milestogo
(18,390 posts)and unable to disagree respectfully.
I cleared it out on election day, and 4 of the same posters are already back on it.
Qutzupalotl
(15,164 posts)Last edited Sat Nov 9, 2024, 03:28 PM - Edit history (1)
Must be nice. We'll be down here in the coal mine hoping for fresh air.
Iggo
(48,603 posts)joanbarnes
(1,896 posts)Don't need more political petitions, donation drives, etc. for all the 'good' it has done.
DemocratSinceBirth
(100,361 posts)progressoid
(50,818 posts)They don't want to admit that we barely won in 2020 and that if not for a pandemic he* would have won then.
It's easier to look to some crazy conspiracy than to admit that over half of our fellow citizens are fucking idiots.
JoseBalow
(5,757 posts)"Ignore" should be reciprocal by default, the way blocking works on all other sites.
BComplex
(9,175 posts)Democrats don't need to be embarrassed by demanding audits. We have known, as everyone has for years, that the republicans are bad actors. Trying to be "above the fray" isn't good for democracy.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,883 posts)She has access to the same evidence everyone else posting on DU does.
BComplex
(9,175 posts)She can't very well do that without the voters standing behind her, or she just looks like a twerp. We need to rise up and demand audits, and she'll be covered. Without her voters rising up, she'd just look like a sore loser. AND the republicans are COUNTING on that!!!!
Fiendish Thingy
(18,883 posts)In her speech she said we must accept the results of this election; was she lying?
BComplex
(9,175 posts)counted, and all the ballots that Michigan "just found", and all the other hanky panky that has gone down. North Carolina voted democrats all throughout the ballot....except for donald trump? Not a fucking chance! I want eyeballs on those ballots.
Magoo48
(5,566 posts)I dont use ignore, but you hit the nail on the head. Blame and analysis, pissing and moaning, hell, a sliver of all of it, or none of it, may or may not be true.
So fucking what?
The question is what now. How do we most effectively resist these fascist knuckle draggers? What can we do individually, as well as collectively, to monkey wrench their worst intentions, because thats what their coming with?
Elessar Zappa
(16,173 posts)that threads suggesting it was stolen should be moved to the Creative Speculation group. Its the place on this site for conspiracies.
Fiendish Thingy
(18,883 posts)Elessar Zappa
(16,173 posts)Because it makes DU look ridiculous.