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In It to Win It

(9,486 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:16 PM Saturday

I saw comment on one of The Bulwark YouTube videos, and it's very self-aware of the "conservative" movement

Something that Never Trump conservatives need to ask themselves that I feel is rare, is why did our movement lead to this authoritarian movement?

I was a conservative pretty similar to [Tim Miller of The Bulwark] in my beliefs. I believed big government was a road to unfreedom, and that American institutions were a force for good. But it wasn’t the big government Libs who caved to authoritarianism, it was the so called Libertarians and conservatives. Some of us didn’t, but our ideology bred this movement.

When the left emphasized that our policies bred class division and racial divide, they were right.

When the left critiqued libertarianism by countering that corporate oligarchs were a more real threat to democracy, they were right.

When the left said that an ideological loyalty to the markets exacerbated inequality and bred social discord, they were right.

Billionaires bought this election by masquerading as working class, promising a false solution to problems they helped create. There is a place for small c conservatism going forward, but it’s going to have to be in defense of reformed institutions, not in defense of yesterday’s institutions.
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I saw comment on one of The Bulwark YouTube videos, and it's very self-aware of the "conservative" movement (Original Post) In It to Win It Saturday OP
To answer the question, greed. CrispyQ Saturday #1
We may never get our democracy back. rich7862 Saturday #2
He did nothing to improve the American way of life? displacedvermoter Saturday #4
These Bulwark people, save George Conway, displacedvermoter Saturday #3

CrispyQ

(38,172 posts)
1. To answer the question, greed.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:21 PM
Saturday

Quest for money to buy power. You sold out & were never true to conservatism.

rich7862

(172 posts)
2. We may never get our democracy back.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:23 PM
Saturday

Harris lost cause Biden did not deliver the prosecution of trump,

along with not taking down student loans, the cost of living rent, food, gas and education is unachievable..

He did nothing to improve Americans way of life and along with the fact he never talked to the public

He was vacant when it came to talking to the working class. Harris inherited Biden’s mistakes. Along with the prejudice against women being in power.

displacedvermoter

(3,016 posts)
4. He did nothing to improve the American way of life?
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:39 PM
Saturday

How many people on DU have seen dramatic life changes from student loan forgiveness he was able to accomplish, despite adversarial court rulings?

How many people benefitted from the Chips Act, from infrastructure investment, from negotiated drug prices, what are you even talking about?

Jeezus.....!!!

displacedvermoter

(3,016 posts)
3. These Bulwark people, save George Conway,
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 08:31 PM
Saturday

seem to lack self awareness. As GOP operatives they were directly responsible for paving the way towards Trumpism and they didn't do much of value to help us, outside of snide jokes.They and the Lincoln Project folks, and the Cheneys, and the rest of their ilk can go away.

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