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Tesha

(21,006 posts)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:56 PM Nov 2024

It was propaganda 24/7

Last edited Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:10 AM - Edit history (1)

It wasn’t Joe.
It wasn’t Kamala
It wasn’t the short campaign.
It wasn’t that the information wasn’t available to compare him to Kamala.
It wasn’t that more money could have changed the outcome.

It was the right-wing media terrifying their captive audience.

The economy - tanked. The border - masses insane of killers. The abortion - killing babies after they’re born. Immigrants - eating the dogs and cats.
And on and on.

How do I know this? I spent the last year in one of their facebook groups, all local people, all just regular folks who when you challenge one of their talking points? it shatters their ability to communicate, they break, they put up sick memes, they try to get you banned, because you threaten the foundation of their beliefs.

It’s emotion, way past having a discussion, thinking logically, the brain does not engage.
That criminal was their only choice - they HAD to vote for him.

Dems did not lose this election - propaganda won it.

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It was propaganda 24/7 (Original Post) Tesha Nov 2024 OP
Nazi Propaganda used by the gop BOSSHOG Nov 2024 #1
There is no difference. IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 2024 #29
'News' Organizations that are not tethered to the truth. spanone Nov 2024 #2
Been meaning to write an o.p. on this, thanks for doing it for me ;) unblock Nov 2024 #3
They believe the J6 attack on the Capitol radical noodle Nov 2024 #4
what does that say about so many Americans Skittles Nov 2024 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Nov 2024 #6
Saw a new reason just now on Reddit-- It's because young, and now older, men are lonely and turn to someone like trump. Silent Type Nov 2024 #7
Their loathsome behavior True Dough Nov 2024 #9
Yes - sent MSNBC KT2000 Nov 2024 #8
This, 1000 times over. LisaM Nov 2024 #13
Biden's preparers for the debate DENVERPOPS Nov 2024 #20
And no fact-checking of one candidate's river of lies LSparkle Nov 2024 #10
Gish Gallop DENVERPOPS Nov 2024 #21
Every AM Radio station in this country maxrandb Nov 2024 #11
A Soros affiliated group has purchssd nearly 200 of these radio stations oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #17
Good. But it remains to be seen what the content changes might be. summer_in_TX Nov 2024 #19
It is a serious social problem. pat_k Nov 2024 #18
HEATHER COX RICHARDSON Tesha Nov 2024 #12
Exactly. nt SunSeeker Nov 2024 #24
Half the country believes complete BS IronLionZion Nov 2024 #14
Throw in how TV stations across America oldmanlynn Nov 2024 #15
My post on the brainwashing sank like a stone. pat_k Nov 2024 #16
Thank you! We need to keep repeating that! kerry-is-my-prez Nov 2024 #22
I had the same experience on a NFL message board AdamGG Nov 2024 #23
Trump dominated my social media feeds the last 3 months. DOMINATED. Initech Nov 2024 #25
With algorithms directing disinformation to the masses based on their NoMoreRepugs Nov 2024 #26
Hate and Fear Always Works! MrWowWow Nov 2024 #27
Without a doubt. The MSM have a lot of blood on their hands. From the 2000, 2016, and the current one. JohnSJ Nov 2024 #28

BOSSHOG

(41,837 posts)
1. Nazi Propaganda used by the gop
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 10:58 PM
Nov 2024

Quite Simple. Lie loudly and often. Blame your enemies for what you do. Republicans? Nazis? What’s the difference?

spanone

(138,623 posts)
2. 'News' Organizations that are not tethered to the truth.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:01 PM
Nov 2024

Can't beat them when they are ubiquitous...and they are.

unblock

(54,912 posts)
3. Been meaning to write an o.p. on this, thanks for doing it for me ;)
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:05 PM
Nov 2024

And part of their propaganda is to vilify democrats and anyone who disagrees with them.

They indoctrinate their listeners and train them to insult and disrespect anyone with a differing viewpoint or even fact, and just call them names. Evil, socialist, whatever.

It's nearly impossible to change the mind of anyone caught in that mode of thinking.

The zombie apocalypse is real. They came and they ate people's brains.

radical noodle

(9,807 posts)
4. They believe the J6 attack on the Capitol
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:06 PM
Nov 2024

was done by Antifa, rather than trump's own supporters. They believe no one is being denied the right to healthcare due to abortion bans. So in addition to all the fear-mongering, they have no real clue about what trump has really been doing. They can't understand why we're so upset.

Of course, those higher up know exactly what's happening but it's the little guys, the regular voters, who are so terribly uninformed.

Skittles

(163,136 posts)
5. what does that say about so many Americans
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:06 PM
Nov 2024

that they can be easily fooled by ANTI-TRANS ads - WTF, how many of them have ever even known a trans person

Response to Tesha (Original post)

Silent Type

(8,859 posts)
7. Saw a new reason just now on Reddit-- It's because young, and now older, men are lonely and turn to someone like trump.
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:11 PM
Nov 2024

KT2000

(21,317 posts)
8. Yes - sent MSNBC
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:13 PM
Nov 2024

an email thanking them for wall-to-wall coverage of trump's every utterance for 8 years and nothing about Biden for the time he has been president. They won't care of course, even if they got one million such texts, etc. In an oligarchy, everyone knows who they work for.

LisaM

(29,090 posts)
13. This, 1000 times over.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:36 AM
Nov 2024

Their absolute failure to tout Biden's accomplishments. Even on the day of the debate, he'd just successfully negotiated the release of five hostages.

There is no excuse for that not being a lead story for the next few days. A dotard doesn't complete hostage negotiations on the day of a significant event, not to mention his heavy travel schedule beforehand.

DENVERPOPS

(11,608 posts)
20. Biden's preparers for the debate
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:39 AM
Nov 2024

should have prepared him for a technique used in debate called "Gish Gallop".......Trump came at him full force with it, knowing he was worn down from trying to run the nation, jet lag, etc

LSparkle

(11,993 posts)
10. And no fact-checking of one candidate's river of lies
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:17 PM
Nov 2024

I can almost point to the CNN debate in June as the beginning of the “fix” being in. Yes Joe was sick but he looked honestly overwhelmed by the fact that neither moderator even put up a speed bump against the torrent of lies. He probably couldn’t effing believe that there was no pushback and his mind was literally stammering with incredulity. And there was no significant fact checking for the rest of the campaign ... The right’s propaganda went unanswered and we couldn’t overcome it.

maxrandb

(16,456 posts)
11. Every AM Radio station in this country
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:31 PM
Nov 2024

from Machias, ME., to San Diego, CA., from Everett, WA., to Key West, FL., broadcasts nothing but violent Reich-wing claptrap and Sports Talk...and with most Sports Talk radio, you can't tell the difference from Reich-wing claptrap.

It's a small sample size, but two people I've known most of my life are perfect examples.

My brother was a life-long, blue collar Democrat. A couple decades ago, he began driving a delivery truck. He spent upwards of 8 hours a day on the road.

My brother in law builds pools in multiple midwest states. His work requires him to drive hours and hours each day. He never cared about politics and was mostly liberal in his thinking.

They've both become raving right-wing loons.

Every FUCKING conversation with my brother in law these days, he spews stupid shit about illegal immigrants being given homes, cars, and welfare.

BTW - I ask again; WHY THE FUCK IS ANY DEMOCRAT, LIBERAL, OR PROGRESSIVE ON FUCKING "XHITLER"??????????

summer_in_TX

(3,524 posts)
19. Good. But it remains to be seen what the content changes might be.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:23 AM
Nov 2024

This is the asymmetric warfare the GOP has waged on Dems since Reagan ended the Fairness Doctrine and gave free rein to the cable companies.

pat_k

(11,092 posts)
18. It is a serious social problem.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:49 AM
Nov 2024

This isn't left right. It is insane brainwashing vs. reality.

I lost my mother in law to it.

It is heartbreaking and I don't think we're talking about it as the human, and social problem it is. We just return hate with hate and thereby alienate further.

More: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219688301

Tesha

(21,006 posts)
12. HEATHER COX RICHARDSON
Sat Nov 9, 2024, 11:51 PM
Nov 2024
https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/november-8-2024

As Angelo Carusone of Media Matters put it: “We have a country that is pickled in right-wing misinformation and rage.”

IronLionZion

(48,316 posts)
14. Half the country believes complete BS
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:38 AM
Nov 2024

If the economy is so bad, why are people buying so much stuff? They never think about that. Prices are high because somebody is willing to pay it.

What is killing babies after they are born, are guns.

oldmanlynn

(631 posts)
15. Throw in how TV stations across America
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:43 AM
Nov 2024

TV stations in America in particular the suburbs and red states have been purchased by right leaning groups pushing right leaning content.

So the entire country gets fox news lite.

Check out this thread on that

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219696598

pat_k

(11,092 posts)
16. My post on the brainwashing sank like a stone.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 12:44 AM
Nov 2024

But you are absolutely right. It is no longer a "partisan divide." It is a serious social problem that cannot be dismissed as "it's just politics."

FWIW, a few thoughts here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219688301

kerry-is-my-prez

(9,740 posts)
22. Thank you! We need to keep repeating that!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:41 AM
Nov 2024

It’s pissing me off to hear people blaming fellow Dems.

AdamGG

(1,655 posts)
23. I had the same experience on a NFL message board
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:48 AM
Nov 2024

called Patriots Planet. They have a subforum called the "Political Playground". A sampling of the thread titles on that board: "Moonbats Gone Wild", "The War on Free Speech", "The Woke and the War Against Them", "Vote Fraud Watch", "The Biden Crime Syndicate", "The January 6th Show", "Globalist Agenda: Where the Elites are Taking Us and Why", "DBV - Death by Vaccination", "Soros is the Enemy", "The Mindset of a Communist".

I joined the message board when the Tom Brady era started and winning was new and checked in over time because I moved away from Boston and still followed the sports teams. The people in that political subforum have been right leaning for years, but it was interesting to see their posts as things circulated on the right wing webosphere and to see how they "think".

Over the years I saw outraged threads about how liberal universities are going to falsely accuse your sons of rape, about how there were actually more Irish slaves in America than Africans, but they don't complain about it, how Massachusetts needs to join a compact so that people who are approved to carry guns in other states can concealed carry in Mass.

The people there are easy sport and for years I enjoyed being one of the few liberal people who would take them on. But, this year it became too much. There were endless vicious memes against trans people. When Dump talked about immigrants eating dogs & cats in the debate, I knew what he was referring to because I'd seen many dozens of memes of Trump carrying dogs/cats/geese under his arms while being chased by hordes of black zombies.

As the OP described, when you challenge them, many of them explode into calling you a Communist and ranting about the "woke agenda."

I'm done with this site, but it did give me more insight than I otherwise would have had into how limited and irretrievably lost many of these people seem to be. It's all about the media they consume, which continuously reinforces their views and stokes their outrage. It dumbs them down to knowing few facts, while at the same time leaving them with the belief that they're knowledgeable.

I don't think trump would have been possible without the media de-evolution that began with Limbaugh and Fox and has accelerated with the internet/social media. Now, Elon Musk will be a part of the administration for a full propaganda onslaught. All authoritarian governments have relied on manipulating the media and these morons eat it up while referring to actual fact checked journalism as "fake news".

Initech

(104,402 posts)
25. Trump dominated my social media feeds the last 3 months. DOMINATED.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:54 AM
Nov 2024

Never heard one peep about Kamala. Not one. If there's anyone to blame for this - it's Elon Musk and Mark Zuckerberg.

NoMoreRepugs

(11,147 posts)
26. With algorithms directing disinformation to the masses based on their
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:56 AM
Nov 2024

search history and comments how can the spoken and printed truth compete with that??? The average American doesn’t even read at a sixth grade level let alone comprehend or think critically at that 12-13 year old level. We are frickin’ doomed with the billionaire Boyz club dealing and holding all the cards.

MrWowWow

(519 posts)
27. Hate and Fear Always Works!
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:58 AM
Nov 2024

Classic case: Hitler. He campaigned using fear and hate. Got the Germans all teed up to vote for him and he won. . just as tramp did.

JohnSJ

(98,313 posts)
28. Without a doubt. The MSM have a lot of blood on their hands. From the 2000, 2016, and the current one.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:32 AM
Nov 2024
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