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gab13by13

(25,032 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:53 AM Sunday

So Who Were The People Who Voted For TSF & Dems Down Ballot

It had to be an awful lot of people. Was there any exit polling that asked this question? I have seen nothing and it is an important reason as to why TSF won.

Democrats kicked ass down ballot in North Carolina; Governor, Lt. Governor, Attorney General, broke the super majority. That's a lot of ass kicking. It cannot be that Magats split their tickets because I know Magats, I live among them and they hate all Democrats.

I am just saying that this also occurred in several other states and it smells.

Give me an explanation, even without proof, and I will consider it.

Going to church, will check back later.

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So Who Were The People Who Voted For TSF & Dems Down Ballot (Original Post) gab13by13 Sunday OP
Good question. Lonestarblue Sunday #1
Slotkin, who won MI Senate, got fewer votes then Kamala Kaleva Sunday #2
I could see TSF true believers voting for him and only him on their ballots. No proof though. Blues Heron Sunday #3
i think there was a lot of this. the ballots will tell the tale. mopinko Sunday #5
They were Democrats and Independents Jersey Devil Sunday #4
Check back in six months when Pew will have reliable exit poll data Fiendish Thingy Sunday #6

Kaleva

(38,068 posts)
2. Slotkin, who won MI Senate, got fewer votes then Kamala
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:03 AM
Sunday

But Rodgers, the R candidate, got far less votes then Trump which allowed Slotkin to eek out a win.

Tammy Baldwin got just 5k more votes then Kamala in Wisconsin. Her opponent got 50k less votes then Trump.

A couple of examples where Trump won the state but didn't have the coattails to carry the R candidates for Senate to victory

mopinko

(71,758 posts)
5. i think there was a lot of this. the ballots will tell the tale.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:01 AM
Sunday

there might b some dems who voted downticket, but left the prez blank. there r always some. but i find it hard to believe there were more of those than usual.

Jersey Devil

(10,333 posts)
4. They were Democrats and Independents
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:39 AM
Sunday

If you look at the numbers for pres, Gov, Lt Gov, Sec State, AG and Educ Comm, which Dems swept, Trump won 51 - 47.7 statewide. Then look at Gov and we won 54.0 - 40.2, a huge difference. But you have to realize the margin for Gov was much higher than it should have been because the Repub candidate described himself as a "black Nazi" and "perv" , turning off a lot of people across all parties. My neighbor, who is a die hard Trumper, told me his family was voting for Stein. The rest of the Dem statewide ticket won, but it was only by about 2% for each. Look at Wake County (Raleigh) where Trump got 36.4% and Robinson (gov candidate) got 24.6%. Raleigh was redder than normal for president. In my red county (wayne) it was 57.9 Trump and 49.9 Robinson.

The red counties were just as red as usual but the big Dem Counties were less blue than normal. So enough Dems came out to win the state, but some of them voted for Trump.

https://decisiondeskhq.com/results/2024/General/North-Carolina/President/


Fiendish Thingy

(18,393 posts)
6. Check back in six months when Pew will have reliable exit poll data
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:30 AM
Sunday

The data we’re seeing now is from smaller exit poll samples and can’t really accurately answer your question.

Pew gathers exit poll data from tens of thousands of voters, providing a much more reliable, representative sample, even when drilling down into subgroups. Analyzing that data takes time, typically six months or more.

NC is a good, and extreme example of the ticket splitting this year (their new state motto should be “we’re ok with a crazy and evil president, but our governor? aw, hell no!”), but ticket splitting is nothing new- see Biden in GA 2020- Republican executive branch and legislature, but narrowly went for Biden, and then a few weeks later, elected two Dem senators.

Nixon won in a landslide in 1972, but Dems still controlled congress and the senate;
Reagan won in a landslide in 1984, but GOP lost seats in the senate (Dems lost seats in the house but kept control of the house);
California has had a Dem majority legislature for decades, as well as two Dem senators for decades, but has also elected numerous Republicans as governor.

I hope the Pew exit poll analysis can provide some answers regarding ticket splitting, but I don’t think ticket splitting in and of itself is evidence of election fraud.

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