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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf conservatives make something illegal, it is your duty to nullify it in the jury box
Legitimate laws are not based off of conservative vibes.
stopdiggin
(12,760 posts)probably deserves critical (re)examination. (Think again)
and probably an overall rewrite ... ground up.
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ck4829
(35,862 posts)stopdiggin
(12,760 posts)and it's just as shallow (and frankly a little disappointing) the second time around.
Stop and think for two seconds. So, if the Pubs make gummi bears laced with fentanyl - (or 14 year olds working in a smelting plant) - illegal ... I'm suppose to 'nullify' that?
Anything the Repubs make illegal .. ?
Jeeeezus .. !
krawhitham
(4,882 posts)If I give someone my word, it means something
ck4829
(35,862 posts)And laws should be based on evidence and reason, not vibes.
stopdiggin
(12,760 posts)public nuisance, public decency, prostitution, animal cruelty, child marriage, polygamy ...
and on ...
WhiskeyGrinder
(23,773 posts)ck4829
(35,862 posts)rsdsharp
(10,098 posts)And that would be after you lied when asked if you could follow the law as given by the judge when asked during voir dire. Because if you didnt lie to that question, you would never have been in a position to be chosen for the jury.
Good to know.
TheKentuckian
(26,032 posts)because the spirit of it irrelevant.
Executing the innocent is fine and dandy, cuz its the LAW.
Maybe your code of honor would lead you to refuse to be sat for an unjust outcome if it was clear that was the nature of the trial but justice...real justice calls on us to short circuit the lynching not salve our personal virtues with a proverbial baby sawn in half left dead on the floor to allow us to feel we have clean hands.
rsdsharp
(10,098 posts)Second, Im unaware of any state in which the death penalty a mandatory sentence. Perhaps you can enlighten me.
Third, the OP made no mention of the death penalty. It urged that if you dont like a Republican law any law nullification is a jurors duty. One wonders if they would have the same attitude if a Republican urged that action with respect to Democratic laws.
Im learning that there are a number of people on DU who rail against Trumps lies and lack of ethics, who have no problem at all urging lies and unethical behavior if it suits their purposes.
TheKentuckian
(26,032 posts)Would you convict someone to a prison sentence or evade the case to avoid breaking your word for say saving a woman's life instead of letting her succumb to sepsis in order to stay within the letter of one of these abortion bans?
rsdsharp
(10,098 posts)because I intended to break it. In my opinion, one who would do so, whether it be Donald Trump, or someone else, isnt to be trusted.
ck4829
(35,862 posts)ck4829
(35,862 posts)I, for one, won't give up. It angers me to no end that my daughters have fewer rights today than I did when I was their age.
My older daughter is 23 today. My younger one will be 21 on the 19th. They're worth fighting for.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100219689651
"Struggle" and "Fight" are mentioned several more times in that thread.
What does struggle and fight mean though? What's the applied version of that?
It doesn't mean just sit on our hands. It doesn't mean hoping the Republicans will at least use lube.
This is fighting. This is struggling. This is resisting.
Now if you all don't have the stomach for it, that's fine. But I am not going to be told to value the human life, freedom, and spirit less than laws stemming from a belief that dying in childbirth is a part of God's plan. That is a non-starter.
JCMach1
(28,051 posts)By said judge.