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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMy own personal, crazy conspiracy theory
Elon Musk and Donald Trump are both agents of the Russian government and work for Vladimir Putin. They are organized with the oligarchs of the world to consolidate the wealth into a one-world government.
A vote for Donald Trump was a vote for Vladimir Putin and against democracy.
Susan Wiles was chosen as Chief of Staff because she has had communications with Russian officials over the years, and her husband was involved in the meeting at Trump Tower with the Russians to discuss "adoption of children" in 2016.
The plans are in place to destroy America's democracy.
Elon Musk is in place to lead the MAGA movement after Trump is gone. They love him.
The old alliances are no more.
There are new enemies to be made.
We are in a "world war" at present. It is between the wealthy oligarchs and dictators versus the democracies of the world.
Nothing is as it seems.
Clouds Passing
(2,697 posts)oasis
(51,803 posts)Dick Cheney was a mere whisper of support.
Clouds Passing
(2,697 posts)Some of the military brass past and current.
Clouds Passing
(2,697 posts)Clouds Passing
(2,697 posts)littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)It's probably going to confuse too many folks for you to actually make your point.
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Clouds Passing
(2,697 posts)Thanks lmsp
littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)There are just too many things that use that one including at least one usgov agency that I'm aware of.
Trueblue1968
(18,258 posts)intrepidity
(7,926 posts)Easterncedar
(3,647 posts)Very scary and too-realistic speculative fiction.
cilla4progress
(25,979 posts)Not crazy.
IMHO.
womanofthehills
(9,326 posts)Over 100,000,000 watched the Rogan
/Trump 3 hour interview. Trump, JD, RFK Jr, Tulsi, Tucker , Elon etc - were probably all combined on over a 100 online podcasts. Most young men get all their news online and are big into podcasts.
Dems underestimated social media. Dems left Twitter in hordes - leaving Republicans to influence the 100 thousand Americans on Twitter - the majority young men between 18 & 40.
This is 100% correct. My younger brother (20) listens to Rogan. We need our own podcaster like him but I don't know who that would be.
Linda ladeewolf
(492 posts)Check out Bryan Tyler Cohen, Adam Mockler , politics girl. A little more flash and theyd do fine. Sorry for the edits, my eyesight is terrible today.
keep_left
(2,525 posts)...and others I can't remember right now. CW: Chapo Trap House is a relatively hard-left podcast. It is, however, very funny and irreverent. But some here won't like it for sure.
P.S. Don't forget your local liberal radio stations if you're lucky enough to have them (e.g. KTNF in the Twin Cities). They usually post local shows in podcast form, which is very convenient for listeners.
SoFlaBro
(3,363 posts)Linda ladeewolf
(492 posts)Hes quite sarcastic.
SoFlaBro
(3,363 posts)orwell
(8,001 posts)...is laugh out loud funny.
His sendups of Eloon are priceless.
https://www.youtube.com/@Infotainmentwars
To many pauses, but other than that, love
littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)We had a groundgame* but they dominated the airwaves.
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*and an f n brilliant one!!
TheFarseer
(9,522 posts)But this one is a little unhinged. Remember Occums Razor. Musk is simply a greedy sociopath, nothing to worry about
kentuck
(112,957 posts)my "own personal, crazy conspiracy theory".
It is true that Musk aims to make a hell of a lot more money under Trump.
gab13by13
(25,400 posts)Musk has been working with Putin.
Musk talked with Putin then put Putins Ukraine peace plan on X.
Musk talked with Putin then pulled Star Link from Ukraine and I believe Taiwan.
Musk and Trump have been in regular conversations with Putin.
Musk and Trump are Putin puppets anyone who thinks thats crazy hasnt been paying attention.
littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)If the market changes after inauguration he may be disappointed though.
Republicans aren't the only ones with money.
in2herbs
(3,227 posts)space contracts.
BidenRocks
(956 posts)in2herbs
(3,227 posts)our corporation laws could have been restructured by Congress. Perhaps by establishing a new type of corporation that would have eliminated political activity by non-profits.
KT2000
(20,949 posts)the destruction is taking place at the core. We are destabilized already. American citizens have voted to have this happen, even if they don't realize it. Putin wants our defense budget for his own use and trump will hand it to him because they have mutual goals - self aggrandizement. He never wanted approval from the voters, just Daddy Putin.
Irish_Dem
(59,696 posts)Thank you for being smart and brave enough to post it Kentuck.
You will get pushback I am sure.
People are in shock and denial.
Afraid to see our new reality.
They cannot face the fact that the US is at war, and losing that war.
Or have hidden agendas.
If you do a simple profiling of the suspects, we also see the story.
Putin/Xi/Trump/GOP are ruthless psychopaths who will do anything to win.
Putin and China were involved in past elections, we know they were part of this election.
They phoned in the bomb threats which allowed votes to be tampered with in Dem precincts.
And in charge of relentless propaganda. Other facts exist yet to be discovered.
Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi, South Africa wish western democracies dead so they
can be the new global superpowers. They have formed an alliance towards that goal called BRIC.
Three South African billionaires living in the US directly interfered with this election:
Owner of LA Times/Peter Theil/Elon Musk.
US billionaires and GOP politicians are done with democracy.
They have aligned with the global autocratic bloc and don't even bother to hide it.
They want what fascists have: unlimited and permanent power and access to all
national assets and resources.
We could go on and on providing information.
Kentuck you are right because 2+2 will always equal 4.
The puzzle pieces are falling into place as we speak.
kentuck
(112,957 posts)...is Boris Epshteyn, who graduated high school in Russia and speaks fluent Russian and is always near Trump, even when he is on trial in NYC. He has no special talents other than his Russian connections.
Irish_Dem
(59,696 posts)Carefully brought along by Putin.
When the USSR broke up, Putin a young KGB agent, blamed the US
and vowed revenge. He has made good on that promise and then some.
ETA None of them even bother to hide any of it.
Russia even let us know right away they were the ones phoning in the bomb threats to Dem precincts.
It is typical of Putin to leave his calling card at his crime scenes.
He likes to brag about how powerful he is and what he gets away with.
Like the serial killer that he is.
gab13by13
(25,400 posts)See whats going on? As you say they are doing it out in the open. If you or I point it out we get called out for being kooks.
It isnt just Magats who are brainwashed.
Irish_Dem
(59,696 posts)They do not have any problem with being a Russian colony.
Other people are in denial and shock.
The truth is too painful to face.
Losing our democracy and our country is very hard to accept.
They pretend nothing has changed.
And bicker over nonsense and minutia that has no bearing on current reality whatsoever.
Other people have obvious agendas.
They don't even bother to hide them either.
littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)I'm surprised that he hasn't blurted it out by now. I think that he may just get that cocky soon, though.
Trump is a long time Russian asset.
in2herbs
(3,227 posts)have aligned with the global autocratic bloc and don't even bother to hide it.
They want what fascists have: unlimited and permanent power and access to all
national assets and resources.
Musk wants to own the skies and mine the planets and Bezos wants to own the mineral rights to mine our deep underseas. They are free to pursue their wet dream with Trump in office.
The UN has already issued permits for deep underseas mining to oil companies. Bezos has the money, the company, the yacht, the submersibles, and now he has Trump.
What's gonna stop either of them???
Irish_Dem
(59,696 posts)They also are working on Plan B.
When they have completely trashed this planet and taken everything of value,
they will go to the moon, mars and other planets.
The fight over the moon has already begun.
China thinks it will own the moon and it may get it.
Who will stop them now?
ananda
(30,933 posts)Imagine living in a colony on another planet.
If you think it's been dysfunctional living here,
it will be a thousand times worse out there.
IOW, if that's the plan, it's one of the biggest
failures of foresight and knowledge I've ever
seen.
kentuck
(112,957 posts)A strange maneuver for the revered Washington Post.
Ysabel
(2,080 posts)I don't think your thoughts are crazy...
Kid Berwyn
(18,339 posts)Whos Enabling Putins Enablers?
BY SAM PIZZIGATI
CounterPunch, March 29, 2022
Where would Vladimir Putin be without the Russian oligarchy? Without Russias oligarchs, political leaders of the Western world have concluded, Putin would be tottering. Western leaders have made squeezing Russias richest a central piece of their strategy to end Putins Ukraine cross-border assault.
These same Western leaders, unfortunately, have failed to take seriously what ought to be an equally pressing question: Where would Russias oligarchs be without the West, without the Wall Streeters, wealth managers, and assorted other high-finance riff-raff paid millions, as Institute for Policy Studies analyst Chuck Collins puts it, to help billionaires sequester trillions?
Western leaders have essentially been ignoring this question almost ever since the old Soviet Union collapsed. And now were paying the price. Those Ukraine sanctions against Russias oligarchs? They come with a huge loophole. The Western worlds opaque web of tax havens and anonymous corporations is essentially rendering much of those sanctions ineffective.
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The U.S. wealth defense industry, we need to remember, hasnt just been helping Russian oligarchs hide their fortunes. Americas money-handlers have for years been helping them pile up ever grander fortunes. Theyve steered the illicit funds of Russian oligarchs into U.S. real estate, investment funds, and even factories, says Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jake Bernstein, a senior reporter on the 2016 bombshell Panama Papers tax avoidance exposé.
The Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich has used a network of banks, law firms and advisers in multiple countries, the New York Times just reported, to invest billions in American hedge funds. Along the way, he tapped the expertise and contacts of U.S. high-finance giants ranging from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to BlackRock and the Carlyle Group.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/whos-enabling-putins-enablers/
Susan Calvin
(2,149 posts)I think it's the simple truth.
LoisB
(9,023 posts)4catsmom
(291 posts)her support ddn't evaporate overnight. this was rigged
Bumbles
(268 posts)At 82, I won't see it play out. I worry for everyone's children and grandchildren and the health of the Earth. My sister, an entomologist, always said insects will inherit the Earth. The dung beetles will have a field day with Trump and his ilk.
littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)And I'm being sincere.
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aliastheabnormal
(2 posts)If anything i think that this goes back all the way to Bush v Gore and that there is a global conspiracy to create a fourth reich.
GP6971
(33,403 posts)aliastheabnormal
(2 posts)Where's the bloody manual on this thing anyways?
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GP6971
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(33,403 posts)littlemissmartypants
(25,897 posts)Cirroc
(22 posts)The enemy from within, cultivated for decades by our Russian enemies. The techniques to control Russian society are being applied here and they are working like a charm.
AverageOldGuy
(2,170 posts)And its not theory, its fact. Trump and Musk are on Putins payroll.
bluestarone
(18,405 posts)I would stretch this a little bit. I feel world war 3 has been started. WE have been attacked, not with actual soldiers but with Domestic terrorist traitors. IF we find ANY voting irregularities in Casey's recount (hope we get one) ALL states need to be checked. What i'm saying is, we need to believe we are under attack, just like the pearl Harbor attack.
dlk
(12,468 posts)We are not prepared for what lies ahead.
liberalla
(10,089 posts)I wish it did.
GoreWon2000
(1,080 posts)yellow dahlia
(171 posts)I have been singing a refrain of RECOUNTS!
We can see what the future will be, if this takeover isn't stopped. Why is the current administration and all our governmental infrastructure willing to hand this over. They will be handing us (U.S.) over to what is likely an irretrievable authoritarian future. They will be turning this government over to a future that is antithetical to our constitution. A Republic IF you can keep it! Why are our "powers that be" not being proactive to keep it?
I feel I'm screaming out to the administration and the pillars our governmental - do something! PLEASE!