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kentuck

(112,957 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:01 PM Nov 10

My own personal, crazy conspiracy theory

Elon Musk and Donald Trump are both agents of the Russian government and work for Vladimir Putin. They are organized with the oligarchs of the world to consolidate the wealth into a one-world government.

A vote for Donald Trump was a vote for Vladimir Putin and against democracy.

Susan Wiles was chosen as Chief of Staff because she has had communications with Russian officials over the years, and her husband was involved in the meeting at Trump Tower with the Russians to discuss "adoption of children" in 2016.

The plans are in place to destroy America's democracy.

Elon Musk is in place to lead the MAGA movement after Trump is gone. They love him.

The old alliances are no more.

There are new enemies to be made.

We are in a "world war" at present. It is between the wealthy oligarchs and dictators versus the democracies of the world.

Nothing is as it seems.

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My own personal, crazy conspiracy theory (Original Post) kentuck Nov 10 OP
The original potnac ain't standing for that ruskie crap Clouds Passing Nov 10 #1
So where were the Bush's endorsements of Kamala? oasis Nov 10 #16
Brennan, Kristol, Cheney was at least there using his daughter as active surrogate, Bush daughters Clouds Passing Nov 10 #17
Less than I thought. A few though. Clouds Passing Nov 10 #18
The daughter's were surrogates. Clouds Passing Nov 10 #61
You might want to expand that acronym. littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #30
I wondered about that after I posted it. Conservative Rs then I will change it to. Clouds Passing Nov 10 #38
YW, Clouds Passing. littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #41
How. Did. They. Win. The. Election ??? Trueblue1968 Nov 10 #51
I mean, sure, why not? nt intrepidity Nov 10 #2
Sounds just like "The Future" by Naomi Alderman Easterncedar Nov 10 #3
All too true. cilla4progress Nov 10 #4
They did it on social media big time this yr - did not need Russia womanofthehills Nov 10 #5
Rogan Becky_MN Nov 10 #15
Podcasts Linda ladeewolf Nov 10 #26
David Pakman, Chapo Trap House... keep_left Nov 10 #32
Politics Girl might work but the others are kinda *meh* Randi Rhodes should be the flagship show for commentary. SoFlaBro Nov 10 #34
I like Christopher Titus. Linda ladeewolf Nov 10 #54
I some fucking ways, he reminds me of me. SoFlaBro Nov 10 #55
Hal Sparks... orwell Nov 10 #37
Like him yankee87 Nov 10 #48
Simply put... littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #45
I like alot of your posts, kentuck TheFarseer Nov 10 #6
I put a disclaimer on it. kentuck Nov 10 #7
You are 100%. Spot on gab13by13 Nov 10 #10
He already has made "more" money. littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #33
I disagree. Musk wants to rule the skies and our govt is giving him the $$ to do that with their in2herbs Nov 10 #20
Options? nt BidenRocks Nov 10 #44
There are currently no options available because of the upcoming Trump admin. However, in2herbs Nov 10 #49
That is how I see it KT2000 Nov 10 #8
It is not crazy, it is not a conspiracy. It is truth, facts, reality. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #9
And the one person he has kept close for the last nine years... kentuck Nov 10 #12
Trump is a long time Russian asset. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #14
Why don't more Americans gab13by13 Nov 10 #27
Some people are fine with it. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #31
Since the 1980's. It's documented and he's such a psychopath littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #36
You wrote: US billionaires and GOP politicians are done with democracy. They in2herbs Nov 10 #23
No one will stop either one of them. Irish_Dem Nov 10 #25
So let them. ananda Nov 10 #59
Some might suspect that had something to do with his non-endorsement? kentuck Nov 10 #60
I think that's pretty close to the truth... Ysabel Nov 10 #11
America's oligarchs selected Putin to replace Yeltsin. Kid Berwyn Nov 10 #13
I think that is neither crazy nor a conspiracy theory. Susan Calvin Nov 10 #19
I wouldn't call your theory crazy. LoisB Nov 10 #21
I believe this 4catsmom Nov 10 #22
I think you're spot on. Truth is stranger than fiction. Bumbles Nov 10 #24
God bless the dung beetles. They're giving me hope. littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #39
You think so too? aliastheabnormal Nov 10 #28
Well, Hi again!! And again...and again. GP6971 Nov 10 #29
Don't blame me. Blame your unintuive interface. aliastheabnormal Nov 10 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 10 #43
Well, you have to admit it worked didn't it?? GP6971 Nov 10 #47
Cat got your tongue?? GP6971 Nov 10 #52
❤️ littlemissmartypants Nov 10 #40
Not a conspiracy theory Cirroc Nov 10 #42
Nothing crazy about your theory AverageOldGuy Nov 10 #46
I don't cosider this a conspiracy at all. (Close to right on the money) bluestarone Nov 10 #50
Nothing is as it seems, indeed dlk Nov 10 #53
That doesn't sound crazy at all. liberalla Nov 10 #56
W destroyed America's democracy in 2000. GoreWon2000 Nov 10 #57
Glad to see this discussion. yellow dahlia Nov 10 #58
Not crazy. Absolutely spot on Arazi Nov 10 #62

oasis

(51,803 posts)
16. So where were the Bush's endorsements of Kamala?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:20 PM
Nov 10

Dick Cheney was a mere whisper of support.

Clouds Passing

(2,697 posts)
17. Brennan, Kristol, Cheney was at least there using his daughter as active surrogate, Bush daughters
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:25 PM
Nov 10

Some of the military brass past and current.

littlemissmartypants

(25,897 posts)
30. You might want to expand that acronym.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:28 PM
Nov 10

It's probably going to confuse too many folks for you to actually make your point.



❤️

littlemissmartypants

(25,897 posts)
41. YW, Clouds Passing.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:40 PM
Nov 10

There are just too many things that use that one including at least one usgov agency that I'm aware of.



Easterncedar

(3,647 posts)
3. Sounds just like "The Future" by Naomi Alderman
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:10 PM
Nov 10

Very scary and too-realistic speculative fiction.

womanofthehills

(9,326 posts)
5. They did it on social media big time this yr - did not need Russia
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:18 PM
Nov 10

Over 100,000,000 watched the Rogan
/Trump 3 hour interview. Trump, JD, RFK Jr, Tulsi, Tucker , Elon etc - were probably all combined on over a 100 online podcasts. Most young men get all their news online and are big into podcasts.

Dems underestimated social media. Dems left Twitter in hordes - leaving Republicans to influence the 100 thousand Americans on Twitter - the majority young men between 18 & 40.

Becky_MN

(7 posts)
15. Rogan
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:13 PM
Nov 10

This is 100% correct. My younger brother (20) listens to Rogan. We need our own podcaster like him but I don't know who that would be.

Linda ladeewolf

(492 posts)
26. Podcasts
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:21 PM
Nov 10

Check out Bryan Tyler Cohen, Adam Mockler , politics girl. A little more flash and they’d do fine. Sorry for the edits, my eyesight is terrible today.

keep_left

(2,525 posts)
32. David Pakman, Chapo Trap House...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:29 PM
Nov 10

...and others I can't remember right now. CW: Chapo Trap House is a relatively hard-left podcast. It is, however, very funny and irreverent. But some here won't like it for sure.

P.S. Don't forget your local liberal radio stations if you're lucky enough to have them (e.g. KTNF in the Twin Cities). They usually post local shows in podcast form, which is very convenient for listeners.

SoFlaBro

(3,363 posts)
34. Politics Girl might work but the others are kinda *meh* Randi Rhodes should be the flagship show for commentary.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:32 PM
Nov 10

littlemissmartypants

(25,897 posts)
45. Simply put...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:43 PM
Nov 10

We had a groundgame* but they dominated the airwaves.



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*and an f n brilliant one!!

TheFarseer

(9,522 posts)
6. I like alot of your posts, kentuck
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:24 PM
Nov 10

But this one is a little unhinged. Remember Occums Razor. Musk is simply a greedy sociopath, nothing to worry about

kentuck

(112,957 posts)
7. I put a disclaimer on it.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:29 PM
Nov 10

my "own personal, crazy conspiracy theory".

It is true that Musk aims to make a hell of a lot more money under Trump.

gab13by13

(25,400 posts)
10. You are 100%. Spot on
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:49 PM
Nov 10

Musk has been working with Putin.
Musk talked with Putin then put Putin’s Ukraine peace plan on X.

Musk talked with Putin then pulled Star Link from Ukraine and I believe Taiwan.

Musk and Trump have been in regular conversations with Putin.

Musk and Trump are Putin puppets anyone who thinks that’s crazy hasn’t been paying attention.

littlemissmartypants

(25,897 posts)
33. He already has made "more" money.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:30 PM
Nov 10

If the market changes after inauguration he may be disappointed though.

Republicans aren't the only ones with money.

in2herbs

(3,227 posts)
20. I disagree. Musk wants to rule the skies and our govt is giving him the $$ to do that with their
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:01 PM
Nov 10

space contracts.

in2herbs

(3,227 posts)
49. There are currently no options available because of the upcoming Trump admin. However,
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:50 PM
Nov 10

our corporation laws could have been restructured by Congress. Perhaps by establishing a new type of corporation that would have eliminated political activity by non-profits.

KT2000

(20,949 posts)
8. That is how I see it
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:47 PM
Nov 10

the destruction is taking place at the core. We are destabilized already. American citizens have voted to have this happen, even if they don't realize it. Putin wants our defense budget for his own use and trump will hand it to him because they have mutual goals - self aggrandizement. He never wanted approval from the voters, just Daddy Putin.

Irish_Dem

(59,696 posts)
9. It is not crazy, it is not a conspiracy. It is truth, facts, reality.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:47 PM
Nov 10

Thank you for being smart and brave enough to post it Kentuck.

You will get pushback I am sure.
People are in shock and denial.
Afraid to see our new reality.
They cannot face the fact that the US is at war, and losing that war.

Or have hidden agendas.

If you do a simple profiling of the suspects, we also see the story.

Putin/Xi/Trump/GOP are ruthless psychopaths who will do anything to win.
Putin and China were involved in past elections, we know they were part of this election.
They phoned in the bomb threats which allowed votes to be tampered with in Dem precincts.

And in charge of relentless propaganda. Other facts exist yet to be discovered.

Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Saudi, South Africa wish western democracies dead so they
can be the new global superpowers. They have formed an alliance towards that goal called BRIC.

Three South African billionaires living in the US directly interfered with this election:
Owner of LA Times/Peter Theil/Elon Musk.

US billionaires and GOP politicians are done with democracy.
They have aligned with the global autocratic bloc and don't even bother to hide it.
They want what fascists have: unlimited and permanent power and access to all
national assets and resources.

We could go on and on providing information.

Kentuck you are right because 2+2 will always equal 4.
The puzzle pieces are falling into place as we speak.

kentuck

(112,957 posts)
12. And the one person he has kept close for the last nine years...
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:56 PM
Nov 10

...is Boris Epshteyn, who graduated high school in Russia and speaks fluent Russian and is always near Trump, even when he is on trial in NYC. He has no special talents other than his Russian connections.

Irish_Dem

(59,696 posts)
14. Trump is a long time Russian asset.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 02:04 PM
Nov 10

Carefully brought along by Putin.

When the USSR broke up, Putin a young KGB agent, blamed the US
and vowed revenge. He has made good on that promise and then some.

ETA None of them even bother to hide any of it.
Russia even let us know right away they were the ones phoning in the bomb threats to Dem precincts.

It is typical of Putin to leave his calling card at his crime scenes.
He likes to brag about how powerful he is and what he gets away with.
Like the serial killer that he is.

gab13by13

(25,400 posts)
27. Why don't more Americans
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:25 PM
Nov 10

See what’s going on? As you say they are doing it out in the open. If you or I point it out we get called out for being kooks.

It isn’t just Magats who are brainwashed.

Irish_Dem

(59,696 posts)
31. Some people are fine with it.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:28 PM
Nov 10

They do not have any problem with being a Russian colony.

Other people are in denial and shock.
The truth is too painful to face.
Losing our democracy and our country is very hard to accept.
They pretend nothing has changed.
And bicker over nonsense and minutia that has no bearing on current reality whatsoever.

Other people have obvious agendas.
They don't even bother to hide them either.

littlemissmartypants

(25,897 posts)
36. Since the 1980's. It's documented and he's such a psychopath
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:34 PM
Nov 10

I'm surprised that he hasn't blurted it out by now. I think that he may just get that cocky soon, though.

Trump is a long time Russian asset.

in2herbs

(3,227 posts)
23. You wrote: US billionaires and GOP politicians are done with democracy. They
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:09 PM
Nov 10

have aligned with the global autocratic bloc and don't even bother to hide it.
They want what fascists have: unlimited and permanent power and access to all
national assets and resources.

Musk wants to own the skies and mine the planets and Bezos wants to own the mineral rights to mine our deep underseas. They are free to pursue their wet dream with Trump in office.

The UN has already issued permits for deep underseas mining to oil companies. Bezos has the money, the company, the yacht, the submersibles, and now he has Trump.

What's gonna stop either of them???

Irish_Dem

(59,696 posts)
25. No one will stop either one of them.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:18 PM
Nov 10

They also are working on Plan B.
When they have completely trashed this planet and taken everything of value,
they will go to the moon, mars and other planets.

The fight over the moon has already begun.
China thinks it will own the moon and it may get it.
Who will stop them now?

ananda

(30,933 posts)
59. So let them.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:58 PM
Nov 10

Imagine living in a colony on another planet.

If you think it's been dysfunctional living here,
it will be a thousand times worse out there.

IOW, if that's the plan, it's one of the biggest
failures of foresight and knowledge I've ever
seen.

kentuck

(112,957 posts)
60. Some might suspect that had something to do with his non-endorsement?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 08:17 PM
Nov 10

A strange maneuver for the revered Washington Post.

Kid Berwyn

(18,339 posts)
13. America's oligarchs selected Putin to replace Yeltsin.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 01:59 PM
Nov 10
A: The Carlyle Group and Friends.

Who’s Enabling Putin’s Enablers?


BY SAM PIZZIGATI
CounterPunch, March 29, 2022

Where would Vladimir Putin be without the Russian oligarchy? Without Russia’s oligarchs, political leaders of the Western world have concluded, Putin would be tottering. Western leaders have made squeezing Russia’s richest a central piece of their strategy to end Putin’s Ukraine cross-border assault.

These same Western leaders, unfortunately, have failed to take seriously what ought to be an equally pressing question: Where would Russia’s oligarchs be without the West, without the Wall Streeters, wealth managers, and assorted other high-finance riff-raff “paid millions,” as Institute for Policy Studies analyst Chuck Collins puts it, “to help billionaires sequester trillions”?

Western leaders have essentially been ignoring this question almost ever since the old Soviet Union collapsed. And now we’re paying the price. Those Ukraine sanctions against Russia’s oligarchs? They come with a huge loophole. The Western world’s opaque web of tax havens and anonymous corporations is essentially rendering much of those sanctions ineffective.

Snippe…

The U.S. wealth defense industry, we need to remember, hasn’t just been helping Russian oligarchs hide their fortunes. America’s money-handlers have for years been helping them pile up ever grander fortunes. They’ve steered the illicit funds of Russian oligarchs into U.S. real estate, investment funds, and “even factories,” says Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Jake Bernstein, a senior reporter on the 2016 bombshell “Panama Papers” tax avoidance exposé.

The Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich has used “a network of banks, law firms and advisers in multiple countries,” the New York Times just reported, to invest “billions in American hedge funds.” Along the way, he tapped the expertise and contacts of U.S. high-finance giants ranging from Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley to BlackRock and the Carlyle Group.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2022/03/29/whos-enabling-putins-enablers/

Bumbles

(268 posts)
24. I think you're spot on. Truth is stranger than fiction.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:11 PM
Nov 10

At 82, I won't see it play out. I worry for everyone's children and grandchildren and the health of the Earth. My sister, an entomologist, always said insects will inherit the Earth. The dung beetles will have a field day with Trump and his ilk.

28. You think so too?
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:25 PM
Nov 10

If anything i think that this goes back all the way to Bush v Gore and that there is a global conspiracy to create a fourth reich.

35. Don't blame me. Blame your unintuive interface.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:34 PM
Nov 10

Where's the bloody manual on this thing anyways?

Response to GP6971 (Reply #29)

Cirroc

(22 posts)
42. Not a conspiracy theory
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:40 PM
Nov 10

The enemy from within, cultivated for decades by our Russian enemies. The techniques to control Russian society are being applied here and they are working like a charm.

AverageOldGuy

(2,170 posts)
46. Nothing crazy about your theory
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:43 PM
Nov 10

And it’s not theory, it’s fact. Trump and Musk are on Putin’s payroll.

bluestarone

(18,405 posts)
50. I don't cosider this a conspiracy at all. (Close to right on the money)
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 03:54 PM
Nov 10

I would stretch this a little bit. I feel world war 3 has been started. WE have been attacked, not with actual soldiers but with Domestic terrorist traitors. IF we find ANY voting irregularities in Casey's recount (hope we get one) ALL states need to be checked. What i'm saying is, we need to believe we are under attack, just like the pearl Harbor attack.

yellow dahlia

(171 posts)
58. Glad to see this discussion.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 07:51 PM
Nov 10

I have been singing a refrain of RECOUNTS!

We can see what the future will be, if this takeover isn't stopped. Why is the current administration and all our governmental infrastructure willing to hand this over. They will be handing us (U.S.) over to what is likely an irretrievable authoritarian future. They will be turning this government over to a future that is antithetical to our constitution. A Republic IF you can keep it! Why are our "powers that be" not being proactive to keep it?

I feel I'm screaming out to the administration and the pillars our governmental - do something! PLEASE!

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