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Just days after Donald Trumps presidential victory, reports indicate that some of his supporters are already experiencing buyers remorse as they confront the immediate impacts of his economic policies. In a video report, Brett Meiselas, co-founder of the MeidasTouch Network, highlighted the growing regret among Trump voters, many of whom did not anticipate how Trumps proposed tariffs and policy changes would affect them directly.
Data from Google Trends provides insight into this emerging phenomenon. In the hours surrounding the election, searches for terms like change my vote and are tariffs bad surged, particularly in key battleground states such as Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and North Carolina. Meiselas pointed to these searches as an indicator of the swift realization among voters about the potential consequences of Trumps trade policies. For example, many Trump supporters mistakenly believed that tariffs would financially impact foreign producers rather than U.S. businesses and consumersa misconception now being addressed as businesses adjust to expected cost increases.
The economic realities of tariffs are quickly setting in for small business owners, many of whom are directly affected. Meiselas shared the story of a Pennsylvania small manufacturing company whose employees learned that their holiday bonuses would be cut to prepare for the financial strain anticipated from increased import costs. The companys president reportedly had to explain to workers what tariffs are and how they function, revealing a widespread misunderstanding of the economic policy.
For larger companies, the impact of tariffs is no less stark. Automotive companies like Nissan and Stellantis are already bracing for cost increases and have announced impending layoffs to mitigate anticipated losses. CNN recently highlighted that the prices of common goods are expected to rise as companies pass along the cost of tariffs to consumers. Leaders from major U.S. corporations, including AutoZone, have confirmed that price increases are on the way, with some anticipating hikes as early as next year.
https://www.meidasplus.com/p/some-trump-voters-already-regret
dsc
(52,724 posts)if they want some they can look in the dictionary between shit and syphilis.
COL Mustard
(7,037 posts)We used to say that a zillion years ago.
dsc
(52,724 posts)though the army may have brought it to AA for all I know.
kerry-is-my-prez
(9,454 posts)Especially when some if them have to know that Fox news got sued for 1+billion for admittedly lying.
hatrack
(61,342 posts).
I was reading and saying the same thing as I read your post. However, I must say Fuck em!!!😡
Faux pas
(15,470 posts)we knew what was happening. Their buyers remose is effing useless. None of us mean anything to him.
Bitbit
(138 posts)ramedy
(183 posts)Sorry.
XanaDUer2
(14,794 posts)Wouldn't googling that b4 voting be smarter
Dave Bowman
(4,031 posts)Marthe48
(19,593 posts)n/t
getagrip_already
(17,611 posts)Would vote for this piece of crap when he is saying they will cut $3T from the federal budget, shutting down entire agencies and gutting others, closing overseas bases and gutting the military.
The federal budget only has $1.7T in discretionary spending, including dod. Everything else is locked up as entitlements (ss, medicare, medicaide, etc).
Cutting that much will cripple the economies of va, md, dc, and de. Every state with a military base, a research facility, space or missile center, or government contractor base will go through a major recession.
The maga congress wont care. They will sell it as the biden bubble popping. The press, whats left of it will go along.
But the pain will be intense. And it is what they say they will do. Voters have to believe they were lying to vote for them.
EnergizedLib
(2,283 posts)I just hate were all going to suffer, too.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)Yeah, it will increase the price of everything (if it's a blanket tariff)
But in about 8 to 12 years, foreign factories will seriously consider moving their factories here to avoid the tariffs. If you notice when all those free trade agreements were passed and when we had the crash in 2007. That took about 12 years to seriously impact employment.
So, my guess is Pedo Trump is planning on being president for about 12 years.
But tariffs do work to bring in jobs. It just takes quite a few years
yardwork
(64,935 posts)Trump says he's going to impose tariffs on China. Manufacturers can simply move their factories to other low-wage countries. There's no guarantee they'll ever come back to the U.S.
Even blanket tariffs on every country might not work - and I doubt it would be possible to impose such a thing.
Old Crank
(5,087 posts)They are cutting their exposure in China and moving to other countries. They may end up with a tarrif but it will be lower.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)Corporations can just hop from country to country, where tariffs are lower. They may get tired of that considering it costs to open new factories.
If the dictator wants blanket tariffs, he'll get blanket tariffs. I'm sure our new department of everything head, Musk, will make it so.
JustAnotherGen
(33,958 posts)There are also Chapter Tariffs and different country groups.
I have a feeling some of our Free Trade Agreements will not amount to a damn thing within the next year. I would not be surprised if a few countries/trading blocs tear them up.
And - we will deserve it.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)For all the many, many free trade agreements the US has with foreign countries.
But the Chinese free trade agreement signed in 2020, addresses tariffs. And allows China to sell farm goods in our grocery stores. Trump himself signed and negotiated that agreement. Though it was officially implemented in 2020.
"The Phase One trade agreement includes: Structural reforms, Changes to China's economic and trade regime, A commitment to additional purchases of U.S. goods and services, A dispute resolution system, and Modifications to Section 301 tariff actions."
There are photos of Trump holding up the agreement next to the Chinese dictator. So this tariff thing with China has already been negotiated by Trump....er his Nazi cabinet.
JustAnotherGen
(33,958 posts)Again - I'm a licensed Customs Broker, Certified Export Specialist, Certified HTS US Specialist, etc. etc.
I survived the 2018 301 Investigation (China) Tariffs. I'm now going to have to fight my way through 232s and whatever else Putin demands Trump throw at us.
You keep worrying about Farmers - and that's your right. I'm also final signature on a family owned Agribusiness with thousands of acres in Alabama, Mississippi, Georgia, and laying still in Arkansas (dad and his brothers picked it up in the 1980's).
We farm to feed our neighbors - not to export soybeans. If those white farmers who have always gotten a free ride from the government are applauding this . . .
I can show you a company in Secaucus NJ that LITERALLY kept the world running with their Cloud Compute and Storage servers Made in the USA and exported form Secaucus - of which their tariff bill went from just under $2M to just under $100M between September 24, 2018 and September 23, 2019. In the meantime, the Government slow rolled drawback access and had a shit assed approach to this new thing called exclusions. I watch people in the NYC and Northern NJ area take a train and 2 bus stops to make $25 an hour to keep America running.
I also had to deal with India where we were the IOR - who slammed us with extreme regulation hurdles. Ditto Austria, Germany, France, Italy, Australia etc. etc. - it's called retaliation.
My family will eat regardless of what happens.
But my current employer keeps America's Freight Trains running.
Good luck to corporate farmers getting their shit to the ports if we can't produce those valves anymore - or have to pull back production.
You are talking to someone who negotiated her own balloon out of the last company - and helped establish the sub build solutions in Mexico, the NL, and yep - Shenzen CN. I've had 12 head hunters contact me since Wednesday last week. I know how to get around the man.
My family will eat. As a matter of fact - we've had full time regular employees (multiple generations) since the Great Flood. Our employees will eat and we won't change a thing for them. We will still pay health insurance, lay off seasonally, provide Christmas bonuses etc. etc.
It's what ethical farmers do - so let the midwest farmers who voted for dumb fuckistan suffer.
I wrote what I wrote and I mean every word of it. No joke folks. It's a self-inflicted wound. They did it to themselves.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)I do not understand half of what you wrote.
Do you think we don't have a free trade agreement with China? I'm not saying pedo Trump will follow it but there are parts of it that specifically address tariffs.
Not sure if an agreement signed and negotiated with pedo Trump is worth the paper it's written on anyway. But it just shows what a f*cking liar he is about everything.
Let's face it, he's a dicktater now. He'll get revenge on his perceived enemies then make Americans suffer. Because he's a malignant narcissist and making people suffer excites him.
So, I'm glad you will survive this coming hell and that you more or less will help your workers. Good luck, we are going to need it.
JustAnotherGen
(33,958 posts)But the CFR (Code of Regulations) Chapters which dictate Import and Export are massive.
Sometimes I feel like a Surgeon who is having to take direction from Engineer!
BannonsLiver
(18,338 posts)travelingthrulife
(1,096 posts)BannonsLiver
(18,338 posts)Its from the same folks who brought you If we cut taxes thatll spark growth and the wealth will .trickle down!
NickB79
(19,702 posts)The US labor market is far too tight to support millions of new factory jobs. We're at 4% unemployment, which is basically full employment. And if Trump restricts immigration, both legal and illegal, our population will actually start to drop in a decade, much like Japan, South Korea, China and parts of Europe are experiencing. Americans just aren't having babies like they did 50 yr ago. And if the 4B movement takes off in young women like in South Korea, and the cost of living from those tariffs skyrockets, the birth rate will plummet.
And even IF they build factories here, the ensuing goods they produce will still be more expensive than what we once got from overseas. If a hammer from China costs $10, and a US hammer costs $15, you put on a $6 tariff to drive hammer factories to the US. But now hammers still cost $5 more than they used to. Tariffs NEVER bring down prices.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)The US labor market is dominated by retail sales clerk jobs and restaurant workers. Any factory that can pay more than those crappy jobs, won't have any problem with getting workers.
Then the number of crappy little sales and waiter jobs remaining empty increases ....I think our society will survive that.
Not sure how that 4B would translate here in the US. Did white women vote for Kamala in droves? I don't think so. And you don't necessarily need young labor to work in factories. Old people who have had their Social Security taken away can also work in factories.
And so what if the hammer costs more. People's wages would go up and they could afford the more expensive hammer. It's the free market working on wages. Less available labor will cost more.
But like I said it will take years. It took about 13 years for NAFTA to crush American labor.
NickB79
(19,702 posts)So, great health care and a pension plus 401K. All you need is a high school diploma and a clean drug test and we'll hire you.
We're perennially understaffed now, have been for years. And we're hemorrhaging guys hitting retirement age with no replacements. Great for workaholics like me who want 50+ hr weeks and tons of OT, but not good for corporate.
Unfortunately, a large percentage of union workers voted for trump, so I wouldnt expect these union jobs to remain at all secure
GenThePerservering
(2,675 posts)They'll just move more manufacturing to Vietnam, etc.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)He could then up them on Vietnam.
AllyCat
(17,320 posts)Manufacturers will just look for the cheapest labor market. Thatll be us after 8-10 years of high unemployment and repressive government. Economic collapse. Maybe when Americans are desperate to work for pennies on the dollar, those companies will move back here.
Farmer-Rick
(11,584 posts)That's likely to happen too.
But the thing is we buy all the crap. If we are thrown into a desperate pool of constantly collapsing labor markets ....which in a way, we already have one foot in. Who will buy all of China's, Vietnam or South Korea's factory made crap? Maybe the US will become a third world country that ignores environmental law and safety to get a few factory jobs for it's starving millions.
JustAnotherGen
(33,958 posts)Last edited Mon Nov 11, 2024, 09:05 AM - Edit history (1)
I'm a Trade Compliance Officer.
You forget we have to export the finished goods after final transformation.
The parts and components to build might not EVER be made or sourced in America.
Its smarter to sub build and transfer to another sub builder outside of the USA - then third party export to a country that has retaliated with Tariffs on Country of Origin USA. Exclusions and Drawbacks are worthless unless your bringing in $100M parts and components annually.
Great test - Where do shoe manufacturers obtain brads for eyelets for laces?
Iron Castings?
soandso
(1,631 posts)It's WAAAAAY to soon for buyers remorse, which may or may not happen. He's making shit up to push a neoliberal (basically British and Libertarian) economic agenda, imo. How do we know who may have searched "what tariffs do"? Those could be Democrats searching that and there's no way to know. A quick search turned up why those auto manufacturers are doing layoffs and it's not what Meidas Touch claims:
About 1,100 workers at Stellantis' (STLA) Jeep factory in Ohio are facing layoffs as the plant will go from two daily shifts to one as early as January. The move is part of Stellantis' (STLA) efforts to reduce bloated inventory across its U.S. dealerships.
"These are difficult actions to take, but they are necessary to enable the company to regain its competitive edge and eventually return production to prior levels," Stellantis (STLA) said.
Meanwhile, Nissan (OTCPK:NSANY) will cut 9,000 jobs globally and reduce its production capacity by 20% as it eyes lowering costs by around $2.63B. The Japanese automaker also slashed its outlook and will reduce up to 10% its stake in Mitsubishi Motors (OTCPK:MMTOF) to "increase the flexibility" of its financials.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/auto-layoffs-stellantis-nissan-to-cut-jobs-amid-weak-sales/ar-AA1tJlvA
The automaker behind brands including Jeep (STLA
-4.11%), Chrysler, and Dodge slashed its full-year financial expectations on Monday, as CEO Carlos Tavares looks to fix the companys so-called disaster in North America.
Stellantis cited performance issues in the market as well as deterioration in the global automotive industry, pointing to the rising threat of Chinese automakers and a growing supply of vehicles. Rivals such as BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Volkswagen, as well as luxury carmaker Aston Martin, have all lowered their guidance in recent weeks, citing similar reasons.
The Netherlands-based automaker has pushed up its timeline to lower U.S. dealer inventory to about 330,000 units to the end of 2024, from the first quarter of 2025. To do so, it will cut shipments to North American over the second half of 2024 by more than 200,000 units compared to a year earlier, doubling its prior guidance.
Stellantis performance in North America has been rough in recent months, plagued by big recalls, stagnating sales, plummeting profits, and quality issues. Thats in addition to the departure of several executives and bold offers to buy back at least one of the automakers brands. Dealerships earlier this month wrote to Tavares about the rapid degradation of Stellantis brands caused by short-term decision making that hit market share.
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I don't have a very strong opinion on the issue of tariffs because I don't know where they would be applied. Could they raise prices? Of course, but so do union wages and we accept that because we want people well paid and the country to prosper. If a tariff is applied on goods we don't much much need and already produce, it's protectionist and if it's what you laid out, it's to move jobs back here. You don't want tariffs on something you desperately need and don't make at home. It's a case by case thing. Personally, it horrifies me that we are dependent on foreign countries for essential things like antibiotics. I remember our manufacturing base getting hollowed out and saying to my husband how ludicrous it was that people were cheering as their 401Ks went up while those jobs went overseas. That's cheering your own demise on the race to the bottom.
NameAlreadyTaken
(1,682 posts)on Reddit at least. The woman who voted for the "Leopards Eating People's Faces Party" says, "But I didn't think it meant the leopards would eat MY face!"
StarryNite
(11,009 posts)HAB911
(9,399 posts)CrispyQ
(38,718 posts)HAB911
(9,399 posts)and will continue to laugh as I look them in the eye as the water rises.
CrispyQ
(38,718 posts)I will be flipping them off as hard as I can!
jrthin
(4,968 posts)Ilsa
(62,334 posts)I'm looking forward to saying "I told you so," and "Well, what the hell did you think he meant?"
Fuck them. All of those magats being deliberately stupid, ignoring experts, and making snide remarks about "elites".
COL Mustard
(7,037 posts)That way, they own the whole damn shitshow and we can just sit back and watch them implode.
Sad but true
JustAnotherGen
(33,958 posts)All our Reps and Sens can do is vote no. I don't want ANY assists from Hakeem or Chuck. And if Chuck DOES offer assists to the Senate - he needs to go.
We need to pull a GOP and pull leadership midstream.
At this point? I'd rather see Gallego - yeah - he's new. But the guy has serious grit. Alternative? Fetterman. I think John F is a rock star.
RockRaven
(16,611 posts)Fuck you, you did this to yourself and all of us. I save all of my sympathy for the latter and have none for you.
Your alleged ignorance was willful and easily preventable and thereby no excuse whatsoever.
Once again: FUCK. YOU.
yardwork
(64,935 posts)They didn't correct Trump's blatant lies about how tariffs work, but now they're rushing to tell people the truth?
WTF.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(117,167 posts)Not enough people paid attention.
yardwork
(64,935 posts)There wasn't 24/7 news saturation - which is what such a blatant lie deserved.
roamer65
(37,250 posts)😈
First question from me
Who did you vote for?
Then it goes from there.
A side note: Thank you Dump voters for voting to unemploy yourselves so I can have eventual deflation in prices. It means I can retire sooner.
misanthrope
(8,311 posts)It will place blame squarely at the feet of everyone in the room who voted for Donald Trump in 2024. Same with an obit.
AZ8theist
(6,607 posts)I think I may just do the same.
FakeNoose
(36,186 posts)Nobody among my family or friends are/were Chump voters.
My dad voted for Reagan TWICE - but my dad passed away in 2011. So he never saw what his R votes ended up doing to our country. Even if my dad were still alive, I can't believe he would have voted for Chump.
misanthrope
(8,311 posts)Some of them are brazen in their hatred. Others try to wrap it in a superficial cordiality that is just as infuriating.
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Macrophylla
(179 posts)milestogo
(18,519 posts)Especially if the sum total of your knowledge is from a commercial, facebook, and a conversation you had with a drunk MAGAT in a bar.
CrispyQ
(38,718 posts)Republicans started focusing on filling Boards of Education across the country back in the 80s.
As people do better, they start voting like Republicans - unless they have too much education and vote Democratic, which proves there can be too much of a good thing. ~Karl Rove
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LoisB
(9,056 posts)Buns_of_Fire
(17,994 posts)Oh, and Fuck Their Feelings, too.
GoYouPackersGo
(157 posts)BOSSHOG
(40,507 posts)Many of them did not anticipate (did not know stuff). And they voted anyway. Thanks Neighbors.
ColinC
(11,061 posts)Lovie777
(15,457 posts)Firing employees that wont the sign the purity creed.
People losing jobs from the closures and losing benefits. Losing medical insurance.
The list goes on and on and on. Who will be able to pay rent? , food, child care, and on and on
Raven123
(6,177 posts)They are gonna get it whether they like it or not. Deal with it.
hatrack
(61,342 posts)TheKentuckian
(26,314 posts)Dem2theMax
(10,497 posts)yardwork
(64,935 posts)wnylib
(25,038 posts)raccoon
(31,528 posts)Sherry70-retired
(1 post)Memories of my mother
Easterncedar
(3,694 posts)They can always find some random fool to quote. Its tiresome, and a lazy way to pretend to be a journalist.
TommieMommy
(1,316 posts)Maybe they should have done some research on how tariffs work etc. all I know is I am so pissed off. I'm living on social security. 😡
thinkingagain
(1,064 posts)The information was out there. With little bit of research beyond their TikTok videos.
What the heck were they thinking I cant decide who to vote, the horror man or a woman and so they flipped a coin?
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Buns_of_Fire
(17,994 posts)GP6971
(33,647 posts)sakabatou
(43,363 posts)Look upon my field of fucks, and see that it is empty!
In It to Win It
(9,836 posts)Dem4life1234
(2,040 posts)Too stupid to live.
I only feel sorry for my Dems who actually voted for Harris. Everyone else can pound dust.
Bristlecone
(10,543 posts)kansasobama
(1,553 posts)So F them. F everyone who voted for Dem Senator but not for Harris. That is stupidity at its best.
MagickMuffin
(17,254 posts)I have been conversing with friends and it appears that some want candidates that will cater to their needs. However, I think that the voter is responsible for that information and get involved. Learn what it means to be an informed voter.
Plus its a lot easier obtaining that information than when I was a young voter. But Ive been a Democrat my whole life. I kept informed the best way I could and it has only gotten easier to research a candidate. American voters are lazy.
gordianot
(15,539 posts)Yeah it will be great when income taxes are eliminated when replaced by tarrifs. Damn strait brother. I walked away with a massive shit eating grin. Suckers all. Am not exactly sure he said that just implied it.
Orrex
(64,422 posts)berniesandersmittens
(11,763 posts)dlk
(12,505 posts)What the word authoritarian means, how passive is it to not even bother to Google the terms?
LisaM
(28,825 posts)It's the kind of thing he says he will do but won't. He's too lazy and his business cronies won't like it.
That will piss off his base anyway.
sarge43
(29,169 posts)Old Crank
(5,087 posts)Their sales are likely to drop to some degree. How much will depend on the company and the goods. The tax will hurt businesses here unless they can source everything from the US and their supplies also source from the US.
But a company i the US is likely to put the squeeze on US costumers by raising their prices to collect a greater profit.
Tariffs are pretty much a lose lose proposition unless very narrowly targeted.
Baitball Blogger
(48,669 posts)When anyone sees someone lamenting their vote, they need to post on DU under the caption, DU this link, and give us a chance to go in and comment to let them know how we feel about it.
Quanto Magnus
(1,050 posts)..as long as it's only done to others."
poli-junkie
(1,159 posts)who googled What is Brexit? after their vote and soon regretted it!
Aussie105
(6,543 posts)That foreign worker who put up your gazebo, taking a job away from a Britisher!
Except - keep the foreign workers out of the UK, and your gazebo won't find a local person to erect it.
Well, possibly at more expense and you'd be on the waiting list because the local guy is too busy.
Same for the US really.
Deuxcents
(20,375 posts)tanyev
(44,882 posts)It's all fun and games and "own the libs" until they realize they're going to be hurt by it, too.
cstanleytech
(27,238 posts)Dave Bowman
(4,031 posts)MissouriDem47
(63 posts)misanthrope
(8,311 posts)Will anyone even remember by then?
AntiFascist
(12,976 posts)A deficit that will likely explode once Trump grants tax cuts to the wealthy and requires massive spending for deportation.
lark
(24,394 posts)They still hurt and maybe destroyed our nation based on greed, stupidity and hate.
GB_RN
(3,254 posts)Theyre having second thoughts NOW?!?! Jesus H. Christ on a stick! This has to be the dumbest bunch of idiots on the goddamned planet!
Message for you, you stupid, fucked up, shallow-end-of-the-gene-pool, thoughtless, self-centered, goddamned, Epimetheus-wannabe motherfuckers! Its TOO goddamned late to be questioning his bullshit! You just HAD to have your throw the bums out moment. So you voted for the assclown without questioning a goddamned thing. You opened Pandoras Box and you cant put all the coming shitstorm back in it. What makes this so, so much fucking worse, you did so, while completely ignoring all the warnings about him from damned near everyone who worked in Caligulas first maladministration. Congratulations, dumbfucks, you just won the dumbass-prize of the millennium.
Oh, and fuck you. Absolutely FUCK you and the horses you rode in on. When were all struggling from his tariff-induced inflation, selling out our allies and boiling the planet our kids and grandchildren will have to live in, guess fucking what? You will get absolutely NO sympathy from me. Not a goddamned yocto-meters (1.0E -24) worth.
Go fuck yourselves. /rant🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬
xuplate
(7 posts)This happened in the UK. The day after the Brexit vote Google had a surge of inquiries regarding Brexit. Some humans are like moths to a flame.
AntiFascist
(12,976 posts)ananda
(31,042 posts)Interesting.
Beartracks
(13,626 posts)It's not like Democrats and non-rightwing media and other news sources weren't warning about these effects all over the place. But, geeze, people, you gotta look up from social media, Fox News, and opinion/talk radio and stop letting yourself get spoon-fed whatever corporate/foreign/extremist talking points, "alternative facts," both-siderism, wishful thinking, and obvious conspiracy theories are being thrown at you. DEMOCRACTY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT. It requires your constant attention and involvement, election to election. You need to seek out answers to your questions from multiple and reputable sources and experts -- all easy to find on the internet -- so that you can make truly INFORMED decisions for your family and your future. Wake up to the reality that MAGA Republicans are all talk but no compassion, no honor, and no interest in public service. They are not your friends and never have been.
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dgauss
(1,184 posts)for all the damage Trump is going to do.
nmmi
(248 posts)https://www.cnbc.com/2024/11/07/trumps-tariff-plan-how-tariffs-work-why-they-might-increase-prices.html
A summary in my words except where I have an excerpt box -
tRump indicated the tariff revenue collected by the federal government could pay for eliminating some or all of income taxes. But the Tax Foundation found that it wouldn't even be enough to pay for a continuation of the tRump 2017 tax cuts (that are scheduled to go away at the end of 2025). Let alone a full replacement of the income tax, which the Peterson Institute for International Economics called literally impossible.
The importing company pays the tax, and generally passes the cost along to consumers (us)
Expect a reaction from other countries that then impose tariffs on U.S. products ... what you end up with is a trade war and higher consumer prices in both the U.S. and in these other countries.
MAGAnomics
GenThePerservering
(2,675 posts)TBF
(34,843 posts)Pinback
(12,921 posts)I actually doubt most of them will understand theyve been hoodwinked. The Magats will swallow whatever line the RW media, Joe Rogan, et al. feel them, and the completely clueless will continue being completely clueless.
There may be a small percentage who realize or learn whats really going on, but Im not expecting much in the way of Trump voter enlightenment. Most folks will go back to working their asses off, taking care of their families and trying to pay the bills, with little regard for whats happening in D.C. Well see how things play out.
Meowmee
(6,485 posts)You would think they couldve figured that out before they voted but no, I guess not. I have to buy a new car as my over 20-year-old car now can no longer be passed for inspection. I was planning on buying a used car from a dealer thats in pretty good condition. I hope the prices will be not be increasing on those cars. I was planning to wait until January. Hopefully I can get it done before there are any increases if its going to affect my purchase.
UpInArms
(51,949 posts)With my trumper bosses. I turned in my resignation last Wednesday.
It was a beautiful thing and I look forward to my next adventure.
Half-step
(92 posts)How does it work?
GoCubsGo
(33,254 posts)and googled "What is Brexit?" after the fact. There are ignorant dumbasses everywhere. And, the rest of us have to suffer for it.
Dem4life1234
(2,040 posts)I'm sick of suffering because of these dumb fucks.
It's so draining..
onecaliberal
(36,594 posts)littlemissmartypants
(26,076 posts)Maybe Daddy Trump will let them break down the payments like Amazon...
Example:
$129.99
Or
$13.06/mo (12 mo).
Total plan interest/fee
Plan applies to
Card rewards
12 equal monthly payments
(approval required. No late fees.)
$13.06 /mo*
x 12
Select
$26.73
(10-36% APR)
*
The monthly payment shown is for this item only and does not include the cost of other items or add-ons in your cart.
Bla..bla..bla...idiots.
Aussie105
(6,543 posts)So the city had to vote for a new one.
Voters didn't like the dog catcher, and what he did.
He just did his job, did it well, but never boasted about it.
Instead, the voters voted for the dogs.
The status quo had to be disrupted, turned upside down.
They never thought it through.
That should work out well, right?
When the dogs come to your house uninvited and empty your pantry, your fridge, ask yourself:
Who did you vote for, what did you expect?
orangecrush
(22,262 posts)EarthFirst
(3,244 posts)Fuck them!
AllaN01Bear
(23,547 posts)me about it.
NBachers
(18,224 posts)Karasu
(368 posts)...fuck everyone who still votes for that party for any reason after everything that's happened just in the last 8 years alone. The only Republicans I have any respect for are the ones who had enough integrity to leave the party in the 2016 exodus after Trump first clinched the nomination. That's it.
BattleRow
(1,259 posts)Last edited Sun Nov 10, 2024, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Please dont tell me it's actually made in China!
mwooldri
(10,450 posts)However the barrels used to age the bourbon can only be used once. Normally they are sold on abroad, Scottish whisky distillers often use bourbon barrels.
Those barrels might be cheaper elsewhere after the tariffs are imposed. If not, those barrels are going to be more expensive to sell because countries will impose retaliatory tariffs on US goods. Up goes the cost of Scotch for everyone. Not to mention Scotch will be more expensive in the US as a result. Oh and that Kentucky Bourbon will be pricier overseas too.
So for a while you might have cheaper bourbon. Until the distillers adjust to the new lower demand and make less.
BattleRow
(1,259 posts)Also,purchasing appliances while they are not affected by tariffs.
Black Friday should be a blowout later this month,btw
BattleRow
(1,259 posts)mwooldri
(10,450 posts)Anything that may need a bourbon flavour. Googling around I learned Tabasco sauce uses used bourbon barrels.
BattleRow
(1,259 posts)they aged their wine in old whiskey barrels that had purchased from U .S..
Very interesting about Tabasco,though
Thanks for the input!
PlanetBev
(4,242 posts)Enjoy your Purina Dog Chow burgers.
COL Mustard
(7,037 posts)Duh. Duh. Duh. Because of these idiots and their "so-called" research, the rest of us are stuck with asshole for 4 more years.
BattleRow
(1,259 posts)God must have recently edited that to mean poor and ignorant.
Many of us will be joining the poor category methinks.
NoveltySocks
(407 posts)Running around.
Turbineguy
(38,578 posts)And that the Chinese would pay the tariffs. You know, the way Mexico paid for the wall.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(13,018 posts)Hang in there, Red Hats. It's going to get worse -- a lot worse. You have willingly handed a criminal sociopathic narcissist near absolute power over your lives. Now that he and his acolytes have gotten what they wanted -- power -- they will discard you like a used tissue. Elon Musk has already spelled it out: "It's going to be hard temporarily." Define "hard" and define "temporarily."
It certainly won't be hard on Elon Musk.
You have sentenced your daughters and their daughters to a life of sorrow and servitude as second-class citizens. Some of them you have sentenced to a horrible death. The slogan, "Your body, my choice" has already taken hold. That's on you.
Want to know what's in store for you? Here it is. The ACLU's analysis is here.
Your lives are going to turn to shit, and you have no one to blame but yourselves.
I would say, "We told you so," but I'm above such childish taunts.
No I'm not. I told you so.
jrthin
(4,968 posts)Aussie105
(6,543 posts)But do your best to protect yourself and those you care about as best as you can.
Republicans make great attack dogs in a battle.
But once they win, they tend to stuff up big time.
GaYellowDawg
(4,895 posts)I really don't have the words to describe the contempt I feel for them and their regrets.
SWBTATTReg
(24,494 posts)everything but never delivers. That's tRUMP. Biden was and is doing a pretty damn good job. Credit is definitely due to him for his work on this, in stinting the inflation wolf, w/o impacting the economy too badly.
But now, it's all messed up. Stock up on stuff that you'll need, as I suspect tRUMP will mess things up, w/ the economy via the Exports/Imports and tariffs and other stuff that we haven't heard of yet. Keep cash on hand too. I just don't trust him or his crazy band of misfits that he seems to get from TV land or elsewhere. Where they're going isn't TV land, it's reality and I think that this is going to hurt a lot of folks having this mentality.
BlueKota
(3,787 posts)Other people have to fear for their lives because of the brain dead stupid asshats. And no I am never going to apologize for not joining hands with them and singing Kumbya.
OAITW r.2.0
(28,896 posts)So, fuck off.
Aussie105
(6,543 posts)Hopefully mass deportations and stifling tariffs won't ever happen.
Trump has a concept of a plan, but he rarely goes beyond that.
The wall, a replacement for Obamacare/healthcare are good examples of jobs left unfinished.
Those 'promises' had the desired effect, they made low information voters vote him in.
He can drop those promises now.
AngryOldDem
(14,176 posts)Fuck them. I cant wait to hear their cries in four years.
Low information voters. Again fuck. them.
moonscape
(5,416 posts)tariffs. Hes going to monetize the threat of them, selectively punish and reward.
Going to be a cluster.
keithbvadu2
(40,771 posts)A tariff is a tax, usually paid by the customer.
Sometimes by the selling country but not often.
It is not called a tax, but my wallet does not know the difference.
https://tinyurl.com/25cw2c5b
A quick primer on tariffs: Theyre a tax on imported goods clothes, shoes, toys, car parts, appliances, you name it. But the extra money does not come from the foreign companies that produce those goods. The American company doing the importing pays the money to the US Treasury.
(That means the gov't.--- the administration.)
They don't seem to mention that they are collecting more taxes.
MrWowWow
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Will be fun seeing them lined up at the food banks and soup kitchens. Such a deserving bunch of rabid, shit-slinging flying monkeys.
hadEnuf
(2,846 posts)Guess you should have actually thought about it instead of sitting in front of FOX news in a stupor.
Tough shit and fuck you. Hope Trump screws you silly.
SoFlaBro
(3,367 posts)JustAnotherGen
(33,958 posts)get the red out
(13,645 posts)the suffering for us will be seeing Trump voters suffer too. At least we knew what would happen, fuck them and their ignorance. All Trump voters are willfully ignorant pieces of shit. And no, I dont need to feel for the poor things because they have been fooled. All these fools believed exactly what they wanted to believe. They have ingrained racism, misogyny, religious fanaticism, or some foul combo that wouldnt let any rationality connect. Anyone who has never had the common decency to do some self-examination regarding horrific thinking they may have been raised with is useless to me. Mentally lazy SOBs who disguarded any potential empathy. How do I possibly know anything about these types? 60 years in Kentucky.
louis-t
(23,812 posts)As the poorest of the maga crowd is dumpster diving and looking for handouts so they can eat, most will still say "Yeah but, isn't it better?"