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[BlueKota]

"The road to facicism is lined with people telling you to stop overreacting "

Historians have been sounding the warning bells since 2016. Can't count the times I have been personally told oh this or that is never going to happen. Then it does and they say, I'm sorry, you were right. Thats not helpful and of cold comfort.

History tells us what did happen, what can, and probably will happen again. It's not media hype or irrational fears. It's a possibility that it's better to be prepared for than not.

[progressoid]

1. I suspect he might try some light fascistic things. The more worrisome thing is the project 2025 stuff and

the giveaways to the oligarchs.

[BlueKota]

2. Those things along with

aligning with Putin and XI against the rest of the world.

[progressoid]

3. I can't imagine what Zelenskyy and the people of Ukraine are thinking now.

[BlueKota]

5. I know.

As scary as it is for us it has to be 10 x worse for them.

[Red Mountain]

7. Zelenskyy is thinking....

he's a bargaining chip. Trump is in a little different position this time. He has something Putin wants.

Trump has been humiliated by Putin. That has to sting the old ego. Trump might, just MIGHT, realize he isn't going to live long enough to build a hotel in Moscow. He'll have different terms this time around.

Does Putin have kompromat on Trump? Does Trump care?

The bargaining positions may have moved if only slightly.

Question is....what does Trump want from Putin?

[MartyTheGreek]

11. DJT want's Putin to keep the Pee Tape secret...

When Chris Steele was asked during his book tour on a podcast, "is there a pee tape?" and he didn't answer directly. Steele went off course and said all hotels are bugged and filmed yada yada.

Observation... Rusky Cable TV showed the naked Melina pics two days after Trump won and Putin still did not call him to congratulate him until Friday I believe! Is the message, I OWN YOU! ? Supposedly they talked and Trump told him not to get aggressive with Ukraine but the drone wars intensified.

[wnylib]

9. I heard on NPR today that European nations are

stepping up to help Ukraine more and are holding meetings to discuss how to take up the slack when the felon takes over the US.

[Irish_Dem]

12. I hope this true. I assumed Europe would abandon Ukraine.

Biden had to twist their arms to get them to pony up.

Germany and France were in bed with Putin and his oil deals.

[wnylib]

13. They know that Putin is a threat to the rest of Europe.

I think they learned the lesson of appeasement in the last century. I also think (hope) that Biden unified them enough for the unity to hold. Maybe they feel even more fearful with the US going fascist.

[Irish_Dem]

14. Yes but France and Germany assumed Putin would make nice with them

because they were so intertwined with Putin's oil and money deals.
Which of course Putin did on purpose thinking they would not turn against him
when he invaded Ukraine.

So then Biden had to convince Germany and France to take some action.
And then of course someone blew up the NORD oil pipeline from Russia to Germany
and the cosy Russian German oil deal went bye bye.

And I think you are right that Europe, at least Poland, may be be worried about
further Russian aggression. And yes they can no longer rely on the US to protect them.

They should be scared. And should start building their own military now.

[PlanetBev]

4. I became involved in politics in 1976

That’s when the Republican Party added an anti-choice plank to its platform. People would say, “Oh, no, they would never overturn Roe v. Wade.”

Well, oopsie.….I always knew they would.

[BlueKota]

6. People always understimate how low the Republicans can go.

It's hard when we see it and yet too many are still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

[Martin Eden]

8. Today their "principle" is let the states decide on abortion

But we all know they want to ban it nationwide.

[ancianita]

10. Trump flipped the script over a year ago & has repeatedly called Democrats the fascists. His voters believe him.

We can't ignore that fact. Just sayin.'

We can silo ourselves into solace and rightness, and stay ignorant about what our opposition thinks of us and our leaders, but by continuing to do so we'll just keep getting the messaging wrong.

Know your political electorate. And know your enemy -- the messaging of the Heritage-Federalist-cryptotechbro triumvirate. Who Trump, being their tool, parrots.

PLEASE don't let DU become another silo'd echo chamber of stuff that had no impact on our opponents.