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Marigold

(221 posts)
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:28 PM Nov 10

What do you think the chances are that they will turn on each other?

I keep thinking about all of the narcissists, egos, and testosterone we have going on at the top. There is the supreme narc, Donald Trump, and the idiot dynasty of Don, Jr., et al. Then you have Elon Musk, who thinks he alone should populate the world, and has all the money in the world. J.D. Vance, protege of Peter Theil who espouses Curtis Yarvin and some type of New World Order. And lastly, RFK, Jr. the batshit crazy spawn of the Kennedy's who is convinced somehow he is entitled to his place in history because of his family.

What could go wrong here?

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What do you think the chances are that they will turn on each other? (Original Post) Marigold Nov 10 OP
Would be hugely entertaining Freddie Nov 10 #1
100% dflprincess Nov 10 #2
Very high. Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #3
It won't limit the damage to the poor or the planet. dchill Nov 10 #6
The poor, yes. THe planet is already too compromised. ananda Nov 10 #7
That is never true jfz9580m Nov 11 #24
I'm thinking methane... ananda Nov 11 #30
Understood jfz9580m Nov 11 #31
I'm with you. ananda Nov 11 #35
Probably not. Elessar Zappa Nov 10 #8
Very high. They can't govern, will only use the platform to further fuck this country up. OAITW r.2.0 Nov 10 #4
According to Johnny Mathis, the chances are... dchill Nov 10 #5
100% angrychair Nov 10 #9
That son of RFK is an embarrassment to his great family Dem4life1234 Nov 10 #10
I predict he'll be the first one jettisoned. Dulcinea Nov 11 #28
I don't think Musk would be offered a position in Chump's Cabinet FakeNoose Nov 10 #11
Put that way, JD Vance may be in danger MadLinguist Nov 10 #13
100% probability Irish_Dem Nov 10 #12
Elon K221 Nov 10 #14
Stock up on popcorn Clouds Passing Nov 10 #15
100% LoisB Nov 11 #16
100% WarGamer Nov 11 #17
Eventually they will. They need Project 2025 enacted first though. jalan48 Nov 11 #18
Two massive egos with Trump and Musk BannonsLiver Nov 11 #19
It's guaranteed. IrishAfricanAmerican Nov 11 #20
I would say it is practically guaranteed. GoodRaisin Nov 11 #21
Oh, yeah. Get ready for scorpions in a sock. PlanetBev Nov 11 #22
oh it will be a fucking meltdown Skittles Nov 11 #23
100%. LisaL Nov 11 #25
100%, but them turning on themselves won't stop them from also destroying everyone else. RockRaven Nov 11 #26
In the first Trump administration, he showed us that he likes seeing his aids and underlings fight ... Intractable Nov 11 #27
I'm waiting for the stories JustAnotherGen Nov 11 #29
Fascism works by having the various underlings jockey for the Leader's attention and favor Prairie Gates Nov 11 #32
1000000% Strelnikov_ Nov 11 #33
100% as well travelingthrulife Nov 11 #34

dflprincess

(28,576 posts)
2. 100%
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:35 PM
Nov 10

At least it will be entertaining and while they're fighting with each other, it will give them less time to hurt us.

Elessar Zappa

(16,223 posts)
3. Very high.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:36 PM
Nov 10

Trump’s like most sociopathic leaders in that he likes to pit his underlings against one another. Hopefully that fact will somewhat limit the damage in the next four years.

ananda

(31,042 posts)
7. The poor, yes. THe planet is already too compromised.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:50 PM
Nov 10

It really didn't matter who won the election wrt climate change.

That is going to proceed apace regardless.

However, the suffering will increase and the abililty to mitigate suffering
will decrease -- and this is sad beyond words.

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
24. That is never true
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:32 AM
Nov 11

You have to limit damage to the planet (and democratic institutions) as long as that is possible. Or it is just like a license to burn the place down and that is never okay.
You may not stop the damage if you try to but it will definitely accelerate it if people start thinking “the planet is already fucked. No need to bother”.

ananda

(31,042 posts)
30. I'm thinking methane...
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:22 AM
Nov 11

I like your wish for a certain determination to limit damage,
but what I'm more worried about is doing nothing to help
recovery efforts while the damage is still localized.

jfz9580m

(15,584 posts)
31. Understood
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:25 AM
Nov 11

I got what you were saying.

It is just a reflex I have on hopelessness re climate change. I worry about it a lot myself but well we gotta strive against mounting odds :-/.

Elessar Zappa

(16,223 posts)
8. Probably not.
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 09:54 PM
Nov 10

But just maybe the Republicans won’t get their whole agenda accomplished. Or maybe they will, who knows? And yeah, climate change has us fucked either way.

Dem4life1234

(2,040 posts)
10. That son of RFK is an embarrassment to his great family
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:05 PM
Nov 10

A real loser .


They will turn on each other and I hope they all destroy each other.

Dulcinea

(7,644 posts)
28. I predict he'll be the first one jettisoned.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 06:52 AM
Nov 11

Bobby may be a fruitloop, but he strikes me as not obsequious enough for the McFelon.

FakeNoose

(36,184 posts)
11. I don't think Musk would be offered a position in Chump's Cabinet
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:06 PM
Nov 10

And if he is offered something, I don't think he'd accept. How boring to sitting in meetings and your only job is kiss Chump's ass. Chump won't listen to anyone, so he does all the talking and everyone tells him how smart he is.

Bob - RFK Jr. - might be offered a position in the Cabinet but Chump will fire him within a few months. It would be a mistake to bring in Chump Jr., for a multitude of reasons, but that wouldn't stop Chump. He's already made so many hiring mistakes.

JD Vance is the guy everyone needs to curry favor with, because sooner or later he's going to Article 25 Chump's ass.

Nobody who ever worked for Chump before will want to come back, with the possible exception of Cory Lewandowsky. Apparently he can't hold down a job anywhere else.

Irish_Dem

(60,754 posts)
12. 100% probability
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:13 PM
Nov 10

The psychopaths will turn on each other and have turf wars and destruction.

Some will work together for a period of time.

I don't know which avenue is more dangerous.

K221

(9 posts)
14. Elon
Sun Nov 10, 2024, 10:26 PM
Nov 10

I can only hope, I really think Elon who is the most evil person on the earth is my biggest hope, however I think Elon is to smart to ever get on Trumps bad side, but Elon more than anyone I think is going to influence this administration and it is mainly to help promote his white nationalism like he does on Twitter

BannonsLiver

(18,337 posts)
19. Two massive egos with Trump and Musk
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 12:25 AM
Nov 11

Seems like a matter of when not if. I have a friend who used to be a Musk fanboy but hates him now that thinks there’s a 25 percent chance Elmo is siding with Dems by the next election.

Skittles

(160,695 posts)
23. oh it will be a fucking meltdown
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 03:26 AM
Nov 11

Trump was all about revenge, he has zero interest in actually working.....but he will be jealous to see any sign that JD Fucking Vance is being groomed to take over and THAT is guaranteed.

Intractable

(686 posts)
27. In the first Trump administration, he showed us that he likes seeing his aids and underlings fight ...
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:38 AM
Nov 11

over positions and policies.

It's amusing to him.

Prairie Gates

(3,660 posts)
32. Fascism works by having the various underlings jockey for the Leader's attention and favor
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:29 AM
Nov 11

That's an essential aspect of the fascist form of government. There will be no end of palace intrigues, coups, various nights of the long knives, factionalism, double-crosses, and other varieties of backbiting drama, while Trump selects the (always temporary) winners, and the other factions regroup and come up with some new plot. The news, of course, will eat this all up, as will many people.

Strelnikov_

(7,856 posts)
33. 1000000%
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:33 AM
Nov 11

It will be the biggest greatest shit show ever.

People will say “Sir, you made the Presidency into the biggest greatest shit show ever” . . .

travelingthrulife

(1,096 posts)
34. 100% as well
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 10:38 AM
Nov 11

In a heartbeat.

It reminds me of that evangelical belief that after they get rid of the rest of us heathens and jews, they will live in peace for a thousand years.
These people would be backstabbing each other within10 minutes. Rigid, hateful, greedy people.

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