mass stabbing in Seattle

[BlueWaveNeverEnd]

https://www.komonews.com/news/local/seattle-stabbing-spree-suspect-bail-set-at-2-million-chinatown-international-district-12th-avenue-jackson-violent-crime-cid-south-king-street-police-department-spd-fire-harborview-detectives-first-degree-assault-probable-cause-court

SEATTLE — A man accused of a stabbing spree in the Chinatown-International District(CID) appeared in court, where a judge found probable cause for five counts of first-degree assault.

The suspect is alleged to have randomly stabbed five people within minutes at 12th Avenue and Jackson Street, leaving the community on edge.

The judge set the suspect's bail at $2 million, citing a substantial likelihood that he could commit a violent crime in the community. Police reported that robbery was the motive in only one of the stabbings, while the other four appeared to be completely random.

[Tickle]

1. Happy Monday morning in America

What is going on here? 😔

[soandso]

2. 9 felony convictions in the past 10 years

as well as misdemeanors. I wonder if they were all violent crime.

This shit freaks me out. I see it all the time in UK news reports and always worried it would start happening here. Those HS kids interviewed are like they have to deal with this daily just walking to school.

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. Knife murders have been higher in the USA (per capita) than the UK for years

Knife murders are also higher stateside: there were 4.96 homicides “due to knives or cutting instruments” in the US for every million of population in 2016.

In Britain there were 3.26 homicides involving a sharp instrument per million people in the year from April 2016 to March 2017.

https://www.euronews.com/2018/05/05/trump-s-knife-crime-claim-how-do-the-us-and-uk-compare-

it's just that the American gun murder rate dwarfs them both.

[soandso]

5. Certainly more gun crime

The stabbings in the UK I was thinking of are likely mostly in London. Stabbings all over are happening more and more and it's terrifying.

[soandso]

7. I guess this is why I was thinking of stabbings in the UK

And this is just London (for all I know, NYC is just as bad but didn't check). Look at those numbers!!!!!!!

https://www.statista.com/statistics/864736/knife-crime-in-london/

I would mostly attribute the high knife crime to guns being harder to get but not sure if that's accurate.

[muriel_volestrangler]

9. Well, as I said, the US figures are worse for knife deaths. You need to find comparable figures

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/crimeandjustice/bulletins/crimeinenglandandwales/yearendingjune2024#knife-or-sharp-instrument-offences

That says London had 31% of the England and Wales (excluding Great Manchester - I think the police force there has screwed up its reporting) knife crime. About 43% is robbery using a knife, and another 43% was actual assault.

But since the deaths from knives are higher in the USA, I wouldn't assume that the non-deadly assaults, and threats in robbery, are smaller in the USA.

[soandso]

12. I haven't looked at the stats on knife crime in the US

but I would be shocked if any city had 15,000+ in a year. Shootings, though - yes, there are a lot in many large cities. In Chicago, alone, about 20 are shot every weekend. When I lived in LA, drive byes were a fact of life. I even witnessed a shoot out, once.

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. Remember, the London figure is about 7,000 for assault with a knife

Another 7,000 is pulling a knife during a robbery. This is why I emphasize that you do need to find proper comparable figures before making a comparison. On deaths, where we have that comparison, we do see the US rate is higher.

[MichMan]

14. $2 million dollars bail

Suspect has been identified as Roland Lee, 37

In setting the high bail amount, the judge noted that the man had a warrant out for his arrest. He also has nine felony convictions in Washington state that include four car thefts, possession of stolen property, robbery and attempted burglary, according to the probable cause report.

Seattle police said they believe the man was also involved in at least four other stabbings in the same area on Thursday. He fit the descriptions of the suspect and the attacks were also random, like Friday's assaults. Police continue to investigate the case and more charges may be added, they said.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/man-accused-stabbing-5-people-seattle-ordered-held-115703364

[soandso]

16. Another case of someone who should have been in prison

[LisaM]

4. I was within two blocks of this, right around the same time.

My work is located quite near there and I was seeing a vendor out from a meeting. My office is set in an area with high security but this was too close for comfort.

[soandso]

6. Scary

Are there a lot of homeless and drug addicts in your office neighborhood?

[LisaM]

10. There are some - mild panhandling is pretty constant.

I think the biggest thing is that it should be a vibrant neighborhood but it isn't. It's got a ton of empty storefronts and closed restaurants, and I know developers are getting ready to pounce. There is a lot of tension around a proposed change to the light rail station, which would split up the business district. I don't necessarily feel frightened when I walk around, but there are some areas where a person walking alone can be extremely vulnerable. The historical population is aging, and younger people aren't replacing them - they don't want to take over family businesses.

[soandso]

11. That's a shame

but it's certainly not the only city going through this. It looks like a geographically gorgeous place.

[LisaM]

17. Yes, a lot of cities are experiencing this. WFH doesn't help.

But even before the pandemic, this was starting. The young people moving here are just.... different. They order in instead of eating out. They shop online. They prefer to have stores like Target downtown to local department stores. Seattle used to be bustling with coffee carts - they were everywhere. Now you hardly see one. Local music and theatre are basically gone.

It's a different world. I don't like it as well. I like a vibrant downtown.

[Lovie777]

8. Welcome to the GQP world....

[jimfields33]

13. It was a bad election but Seattle is not red.

[Jk23]

18. Republicans run felons for office but generally don't release them.

This is owned by the putting people in jail does not reduce crime crowd.

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