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kristndem

(425 posts)
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:24 PM Nov 11

Has anyone seen the #SwingStateHandRecount John Pavlovitz is posting about

Apparently there were many under votes where the ballots were left blank for every other race but the POTUS All favoring
Trump. I am not a conspiracy theorist, but I do trust John Pavlovitz
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"If the Democrats don’t initiate a recount for the swing states and bring an investigation into Elon Musk’s involvement in the Trump campaign, they are willfully ceding our nation to fascism in the face of results across 7 states that defy any precedent or reasonable explanation.
We all deserve a #SwingStateHandRecount."


https://www.facebook.com/hashtag/swingstatehandrecount

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Has anyone seen the #SwingStateHandRecount John Pavlovitz is posting about (Original Post) kristndem Nov 11 OP
Undervotes in general elections are so common LeftInTX Nov 11 #1
We Didn't Question In 2000 Or 2004, And We're Not Going To Question Now SoCalDavidS Nov 11 #2
And a lot of people don't understand how recounts work. TwilightZone Nov 11 #7
count 'em BoRaGard Nov 11 #3
Yes, it's been posted repeatedly on DU. TwilightZone Nov 11 #4
Thanks kristndem Nov 11 #6
This is common and happened four years ago and benefited Biden. Self Esteem Nov 11 #5
Start with Pennsylvania nt Loupe Garoue Nov 11 #8
 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
2. We Didn't Question In 2000 Or 2004, And We're Not Going To Question Now
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:26 PM
Nov 11

Half the posters on DU want us to just accept it, and move on.

Game Over.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
7. And a lot of people don't understand how recounts work.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:33 PM
Nov 11

Most states require that proof of fraud or a mistake large enough to swing the race be provided.

Just saying "that doesn't look right" isn't going to cut it. We need proof of a fraud or mistake large enough to overcome the deficit in votes before we can even file for a recount in many states.

If the campaign had proof, they would already be filing for recounts.

If Pavlovitz has proof, he should provide it to the campaign. My guess is that he has nothing.

TwilightZone

(28,834 posts)
4. Yes, it's been posted repeatedly on DU.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:29 PM
Nov 11

Most states require that proof of fraud or a mistake large enough to swing the race be provided.

If the campaign had proof, they would already be filing for recounts.

If Pavlovitz has proof, he should provide it to the campaign. The bar to get a recount is very high and "this ain't right" isn't going to cut it.

kristndem

(425 posts)
6. Thanks
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:31 PM
Nov 11

I think I am in such a state of denial. When I saw this on FB I came over here to look for more info.

Self Esteem

(1,823 posts)
5. This is common and happened four years ago and benefited Biden.
Mon Nov 11, 2024, 04:31 PM
Nov 11

It's why the Democrats actually lost House seats in 2020 despite Biden winning the popular vote by nearly 5%.

In fact, this exact argument was used by Trump's team in 2020 as proof of voter fraud.

It's kinda wild how much of the arguments we're seeing right now are regurgitated right-wing attacks from four years ago about how Biden stole the election.

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