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Coventina

(27,935 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:07 PM Nov 12

Antisemitic Attacks Prompt Emergency Flights for Israeli Soccer Fans

The authorities in Amsterdam on Friday were investigating what they called antisemitic attacks on Israeli soccer fans that took place amid a charged atmosphere surrounding a soccer match involving a visiting Israeli team.

The police in Amsterdam said that at least 62 people had been arrested in connection with attacks in the city, which unfolded over two tense days that saw people gather in support of the Israeli team while others protested its presence.

The Dutch police said the violence included assaults on Israeli fans by people, some riding scooters, who kicked and beat them in “hit and runs.”

Most of those arrested were later released, the police in Amsterdam said, though 10 people remained in custody as of Friday afternoon. Five Israelis who had been hospitalized with injuries were discharged, the police said, and between 20 and 30 others sustained light injuries.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/08/world/europe/amsterdam-israel-soccer-fans-attacked.html

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So much for the Dutch being known for tolerance.

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Antisemitic Attacks Prompt Emergency Flights for Israeli Soccer Fans (Original Post) Coventina Nov 12 OP
Here's some important context about pre-match Israeli provocateurs: TheRickles Nov 12 #1
Asshole behavior as well, they should have been arrested for public nuisance. Coventina Nov 12 #2
An eyewitness describes what she saw: TheRickles Nov 12 #3
Started watching Mossfern Nov 12 #6
This was right-wing hooliganism and payback Simeon Salus Nov 12 #4
I think you should not judge a nation by soccer hooligans Laurelin Nov 12 #5
Your point is well-taken. n/t Coventina Nov 12 #7

TheRickles

(2,436 posts)
1. Here's some important context about pre-match Israeli provocateurs:
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:12 PM
Nov 12
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/nov/11/what-happened-amsterdam-israeli-football-fans

"Verified social media videos show Maccabi fans setting off flares and fireworks, chanting in Hebrew “olé, olé, let the IDF [Israel Defense Forces] win, we will fuck the Arabs”, and declaring that there were “no children” left in Gaza."

Plenty of graphic, on-site, realtime video clips are available online.

Coventina

(27,935 posts)
2. Asshole behavior as well, they should have been arrested for public nuisance.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:15 PM
Nov 12

Does that justify random physical attacks?

Mossfern

(3,204 posts)
6. Started watching
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 01:01 PM
Nov 12

but the announcer lost my confidence when he mentioned the "genocide" that Israel is committing in Gaza.
The term "genocide" is not a neutral word and is emotionally charged.

Yes, I do denounce what the right wing Tel Aviv Maccabee fans were doing and saying, but they are not the Israelis who were attacked. Here we go again, endorsing the punishment of an entire group for the acts of a few.

I've ALWAYS spoken against the settler movement.

Simeon Salus

(1,335 posts)
4. This was right-wing hooliganism and payback
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:49 PM
Nov 12

"The Maccabi Tel Aviv fan base is known to include far-right ultra groups that have been involved in racist incidents in Israel in the past, including directing racist abuse at Arab and black players on their own team"

"Footage and reports showed Maccabi fans tearing down and burning Palestinian flags in Amsterdam on the evening of 6 November and shouting "fuck you Palestine". Dozens of Maccabi supporters gathered in front of Villa Mokum, a squat on the Rokin where several Palestinian flags were displayed. Videos showed them throwing stones at the windows, climbing the building and ripping the flags off."

"Maccabi Fanatics ultras convened in the city centre, in particular around Dam Square, displayed banners celebrating Israeli war heroes and set off fireworks. They chanted, among others, "Fuck the Arabs". Other people, clothed in black, chanted anti-Israeli slogans. Police instructed individuals displaying pro-Palestinian symbols or chanting slogans like "Free Palestine" to leave the square. At around 17:00, they moved towards the stadium. In side streets and on Station Square, this led to fights"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/November_2024_Amsterdam_attacks

Laurelin

(644 posts)
5. I think you should not judge a nation by soccer hooligans
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 12:54 PM
Nov 12

Seriously. The mayor of Amsterdam and the king condemned the attacks. I don't think that physical violence is justified, but I also have no patience with idiot soccer hooligans who chant things like death to Gaza, or tear down Palestinian flags. There are a lot of Muslims in Amsterdam.

That said, is a nation that elected Geert Wilders really still known for tolerance?

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