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WTF WI would be Kamala right now if not for the green party and brain worm. (Original Post) Bluethroughu Nov 12 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 12 #1
The green party has a lot to answer for both for this election and 2016. Biophilic Nov 12 #2
Go back to 2000. EllieBC Nov 12 #9
So instead of trying to peel off their voters, we have this discussion? GreenWave Nov 12 #3
When we see the final tally, we shall know how many Bluethroughu Nov 12 #5
You can't peel off the purists. mzmolly Nov 12 #10
Fringe 3rd Party votes Zeitghost Nov 12 #4
Pretty big assumption in that assertion onenote Nov 12 #6
Without 3rd parties Tammy Baldwin would have lost forthemiddle Nov 12 #7
They have been playing the role of spoiler EllieBC Nov 12 #8

Response to Bluethroughu (Original post)

EllieBC

(3,382 posts)
9. Go back to 2000.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:54 PM
Nov 12

Look at Florida in 2000. And look at the votes Nader got.

The Green Party has been throwing the country under the bus for a long time now.

Bluethroughu

(5,988 posts)
5. When we see the final tally, we shall know how many
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 03:32 PM
Nov 12

Voted for nothing, and how to give them something they were seeking, inside the parameters we can offer.

The nihilistic attitude of some will have the blood on their hands, along with everyone that voted for trump, as the policies begin to break our Democracy.

mzmolly

(51,718 posts)
10. You can't peel off the purists.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 06:23 PM
Nov 12

They'll always have an issue that makes them feel superior given they fail to realize that Presidents are not kings. ... Or, they weren't until Jan of 2025.

 

Zeitghost

(4,557 posts)
4. Fringe 3rd Party votes
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 03:04 PM
Nov 12

Are largely protest votes. If they were not on the ballot people would mostly skip the race or write in and the rest would be split between the mainstream candidates.

onenote

(44,805 posts)
6. Pretty big assumption in that assertion
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:27 PM
Nov 12

The current totals being reported in wisconsin give Trump a lead of 29,687 over Harris. Stein and RFK Jr together have 29,940 votes -- so if you assume that every voter that cast a ballot for Stein and RFK Jr would have voted for Harris it means Harris would have a 253 vote lead. But that's a pretty big assumption. A far more realistic view is that a bunch of them don't vote, or some vote for Trump, or write in someone else, or vote for the Libertarian candidate or another third party candidate and Harris still falls short.

forthemiddle

(1,436 posts)
7. Without 3rd parties Tammy Baldwin would have lost
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:40 PM
Nov 12

There were two right leaning candidates in the Wisconsin Senate race that took more 72,000 votes. Both ran farther to the right than the Republican.
We should be thanking the 3rd parties for the Senate seat.

EllieBC

(3,382 posts)
8. They have been playing the role of spoiler
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 04:52 PM
Nov 12

since forever.

Nader got something like 60k votes in Florida? Yeah those going to Gore would have made it a no question.

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