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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSpeaker Johnson says warnings about non-citizen voting actually prevented it. 🙄
America's Voice
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Johnson said all the weeks & months of Republicans warning about supposed noncitizen voting had prevented it from actually happening.
In May Johnson had warned that voting by undoc immigrants presented an unprecedented and a clear & present danger to the integrity of our election system.
November 12, 2024 at 5:24 PM
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Johnson said all the weeks & months of Republicans warning about supposed noncitizen voting had prevented it from actually happening.
In May Johnson had warned that voting by undoc immigrants presented an unprecedented and a clear & present danger to the integrity of our election system.
Gabe Ortíz
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House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) said Tuesday that the widespread voter fraud hed warned about all year turned out not to be a problem in last weeks elections that Republicans happened to win.
November 12, 2024 at 5:24 PM
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Speaker Johnson says warnings about non-citizen voting actually prevented it. 🙄 (Original Post)
Dennis Donovan
Nov 12
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BOSSHOG
(40,041 posts)1. Johnson
Must be auditing trumps communication skills class.
Something that wasnt going to happen didnt happen. Period!
Their sign is spot on.
SARose
(836 posts)2. As he stands on empty steps. What a great Christian.
Nm
Lovie777
(15,083 posts)3. He lies all the time and still claims...
Hes a Christian.
CousinIT
(10,283 posts)4. BULLSHIT. There never was any.
https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/noncitizens-are-not-voting-federal-or-state-elections-heres-why
Imagine youre an undocumented person living in the United States. Youve come to this country seeking a better life for you and your family. Or maybe your parents brought you here seeking the same when you were a child. You spend your life living in very real fear that you might be noticed by the government and be deported perhaps to a country youve never known. Theres an election coming up, the outcome of which will surely impact your life. But you know you cant vote because youre not a citizen. Would you risk everything your freedom, your life in the United States, your ability to be near your family just to cast a single ballot?
Of course you wouldnt. Its a federal crime for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. Its also a crime under every states laws. In fact, under federal law, you could face up to five years in prison simply for registering to vote. Its also a deportable offense for noncitizens to register or vote. And sure, people make bad decisions and commit crimes all the time. But this one is different: by committing the crime, you create a government record of your having committed it. In fact, its the creation of the government record the registration form or the ballot cast that is the crime. So, youve not only exposed yourself to prison time and deportation, youve put yourself on the governments radar, and youve handed the government the evidence it needs to put you in prison or deport you. All so you could cast one vote. Who would do such a thing?
The answer is: just about no one. Every legitimate study ever done on the question shows that voting by noncitizens in state and federal elections is vanishingly rare. That includes the Brennan Centers own study of 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election. We found that election officials in those places, who oversaw the tabulation of 23.5 million votes, referred only an estimated 30 incidents of suspected noncitizen voting for further investigation or prosecution. In other words, even suspected not proven noncitizen votes accounted for just 0.0001 percent of the votes cast. But you dont have to take our word for it: the Cato Institute will also tell you, Noncitizens dont illegally vote in detectable numbers.
Maybe youre thinking that there are a bunch of noncitizens voting and getting away with it. Again, consider the fact that in order to commit these crimes you create a government record of having committed them. Indeed, anyone can look up your voter history on public voter files. And election officials conduct regular maintenance of these voter lists in fact, theyre required to by federal law. Moreover, these are crimes that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officers are instructed to look into during the naturalization process. So, if you ever try to become a citizen, youll be caught
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Of course you wouldnt. Its a federal crime for noncitizens to vote in federal elections. Its also a crime under every states laws. In fact, under federal law, you could face up to five years in prison simply for registering to vote. Its also a deportable offense for noncitizens to register or vote. And sure, people make bad decisions and commit crimes all the time. But this one is different: by committing the crime, you create a government record of your having committed it. In fact, its the creation of the government record the registration form or the ballot cast that is the crime. So, youve not only exposed yourself to prison time and deportation, youve put yourself on the governments radar, and youve handed the government the evidence it needs to put you in prison or deport you. All so you could cast one vote. Who would do such a thing?
The answer is: just about no one. Every legitimate study ever done on the question shows that voting by noncitizens in state and federal elections is vanishingly rare. That includes the Brennan Centers own study of 42 jurisdictions in the 2016 general election. We found that election officials in those places, who oversaw the tabulation of 23.5 million votes, referred only an estimated 30 incidents of suspected noncitizen voting for further investigation or prosecution. In other words, even suspected not proven noncitizen votes accounted for just 0.0001 percent of the votes cast. But you dont have to take our word for it: the Cato Institute will also tell you, Noncitizens dont illegally vote in detectable numbers.
Maybe youre thinking that there are a bunch of noncitizens voting and getting away with it. Again, consider the fact that in order to commit these crimes you create a government record of having committed them. Indeed, anyone can look up your voter history on public voter files. And election officials conduct regular maintenance of these voter lists in fact, theyre required to by federal law. Moreover, these are crimes that U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services officers are instructed to look into during the naturalization process. So, if you ever try to become a citizen, youll be caught
kentuck
(112,877 posts)5. Just talking about the spaceships kept the aliens from visiting.
See how simple it is?
tanyev
(44,606 posts)6. Sure, Mike. And if Harris had squeaked out a narrow win
with the bare minimum number of votes needed to win enough swing states, he would have been up there whining about all the millyuns and millyuns of non-citizen votes that were cast.
2naSalit
(92,988 posts)7. Moses johnson...
Just Fuck off and STFU.