Someone who suffers before it is necessary...Suffers more than necessary

[Tribetime]

I'm not going to lose sleep over things that could happen in the future. Taking it one day at a time..not watching any news at all since Nov 5th and don't plan on it.

[Orrex]

1. I feel the same way about that oddly shaped mole on my arm.

Why worry about it?

[Tribetime]

5. Im not saying don't do anything about it ..Ive had prostate and

Skin cancer.. and I thought from psa tests it had returned after 4 results in a row went up....and the 5th test returned to normal so I tried not to worry about things I can't control

[Amanita Pantherina]

7. I won't let him

Ruin four years of my life.

Again.

[Elessar Zappa]

13. But you can control what happens to your mole.

We can’t control what’s going to happen the next few years so it’s best not to let it eat away at your mental health. I know it’s easier said than done.

[RockRaven]

2. Not necessarily. Sometimes a little suffering early-on builds up calluses so the

crisis does less damage later.

[Girard442]

4. Agreed. I saw the handwriting on the wall several days before Election Day.

I was able to get through most of the Kubler-Ross stages in advance and was able to give support the ones who hadn't.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

31. I'm stuck in the anger phase and hope to stay there.

Much less painful than the depression stage. It’s giving me a lot of energy and determination to keep doing things to stop the bastards.

[Tribetime]

6. I suffered plenty Nov 5th but try not to dwell on that feeling

Of things that are out of my control

[Girard442]

8. Being optimistic or pessimistic is something that is under your control.

Do what's right for you. I'm a caregiver by nature. Being too optimistic may lead to a moment when I can't do what I do.

[Tribetime]

10. Im neutral right niw trying to focus on what makes me happy

Ty for being a caregiver

[Girard442]

11. Self-care is good.

One of the best pieces of advice ever:

Put on your own oxygen mask first.

[BattleRow]

23. And become your OWN best friend.

[Deuxcents]

9. I'm thinking the same..I'm sooo deeply disappointed but it's over and the only tv I've had on since then

Was Lawrence O last night. I respect him as he doesn’t try to predict the future..he just lays out the facts without being hysterical. 🌺

[soldierant]

37. I agree.

Especially if the suffering in the form of worrying leads you to the suffering of planning your response - and iif necessary, preparing ahead.

People react in their own ways to events. My hubby loves (nice) surprises, but does not handle disappointment well at all. I'm just the opposite (I can handle a nice surprise provided no deceit was involved in it. But do not make up an elaborate story to get me to come to a surprise party for me. I will not appreciate it.)

[SalviaBlue]

3. I want to embrace this philosophy.

I probably need to be reminded everyday.

Thank you for reminding me today,

[BattleRow]

24. Life by the inch is a cinch..but life by the yard can be awfully hard.

[Orrex]

29. Life by the mile brings many a smile

Wait, what.

[Elessar Zappa]

12. That's a good way to express.

I’ve long said that I try not to lose sleep over what may happen and what I can’t control anyway. The serenity prayer is good for our current situation.

[Duncan Grant]

14. Do you pay interest on loans you don't owe?

Appreciate your post, Tribetime. That’s a good one.

[NJCher]

15. Haven't worried for one minute

Or had any emotional impact from it at all, and that is because I have a world view that factors this sort of thing in.

The other thing I have is working knowledge of the government. For example, almost everything that Lawrence Tribe said on his recent interview which was featured here was known to me. I was happy to see him cover these points, though, because it backed up my thinking.

People who don't have much experience with government or the use of lawsuits to fight egregious use of power like what trump has in mind wouldn't know these things, and that is, I think, why so many people are in such mental turmoil. If you've ever done these kinds of suits (which I have, for decades) you know the infinite possibilities. Most judges out there were not appointed by trump. We have a fair shot of stopping him through the courts.

[Tribetime]

16. Ty so much gives me hope

[NJCher]

17. I have more to say on this topic

I might do another post in a few days.

[littlemissmartypants]

38. Please share a link to the interview.

I don't keep up with Mr. Tribe. I need to educate myself. ❤️

[NJCher]

39. here ya' go

https://www.democraticunderground.com/132134663

Also, did you watch this link that you posted?

https://www.youtube.com/live/_aQXWR-r260

I watched for hours and hours. I might have fallen asleep at times but it wasn't for very long. The resources are vast. There were some very sharp people on that call: Jamie Raskin, for one. Many, many others.

On edit:

Here's another one that discusses the use of the law to stop trump from his nutzo wacko ideas:

This is LegalAF, which I listen to all the time. This particular episode talks about how republicans came up with all these strategies to make our activist lives hell....just in time for us to use them ourselves to make their lives hell!

[littlemissmartypants]

40. Wow! TY! I did watch it and I kept falling asleep too...so I'm

Going to watch it again. It's probably going to take me three or more views because there's so much information!!

Funny that we both fell asleep though!



Thanks for being a pal.





❤️

[electric_blue68]

33. Thanks, neighbor

(in NYC)

[NJCher]

41. Hi, neighbor

I was just thinking about you when I looked at Brian Lehrer's topics for his morning show. I was wondering if you have been listening. He's been doing trump segments for days and he usually won't even touch the topic because he thinks it's over done (and he's right, of course).

I haven't been listening, but that's because I'm involved in so many other things in the morning and also because I am done hearing about trump. He effs up everything he does. I don't know why I should start worrying now.

The callers to that show sometimes have far more sophisticated opinions than the usual "person on the street" type opinions.

The fact of the matter, though, is that so many people are very scared of trump and what they think he can do. Unless one has been in the trenches fighting, that is understandable. There are some far more clever people out there who can throw a wrench in the works. People like Jamie Raskin, a noted Constitutional scholar come to mind.

[jfz9580m]

46. Bookmarking

Really hoping they don’t absolutely get to gut environmental protections.

[slightlv]

18. I'm trying to do exactly like you, Tribe!

I've not watched news since the election. Didn't even stay around until it was "announced." When they called the election before the polls were even closed CST, I gave it up and went to bed instead.

I've got sleep problems due to old age and a Circadian clock that has always had a mind of its own (and out of sync with the rest of the US). I don't need to lay there and worry about what *could* happen; I've got enough around here to worry about that I can impact.

My time on DU has even been cut way down, too... as it is online, as a whole. Probably the best for me. DU is the only place I truly feel like "home," anyway. This, and recipe sites. Cooking seems to help me. I got two guys who are always hungry to take care of!

[Butterflylady]

19. Only news I get is here.....

Because I don't trust anyone else.

[Butterflylady]

20. The only news I get is here....

Because I don't trust anyone else.

[FirstLight]

21. I just feel like my whole life is coming apart

Im too old to be trying to finish my college degree, even if i am scheduled thru end of term in may...then what? My degree will be useless with the future unraveling of so many programs...

Nothing i have to offer is going to make a difference. My skills are not good enough
though I have a lifetime of experience...
54 and I just feel afloat without a life saver 🛟

Ive got a therapist, mental health and trauma therapy cant help me get past the loss of options in life...

Im really desolate today 😩

[Tribetime]

22. I don't know if you're religious but I will keep you in my prayers tonight

[FirstLight]

25. Im a weird blend of all..

So ill take anything i can get...


I know that the trauma of my DV episode came days before the election so its all making it very hard to find a way forward...

[Tribetime]

26. Well I for one care about you and I'm sure most on thi site do also

My best wishes for you

[Ilikepurple]

28. I know this won't really help, but I hope good things for you

I agree with OP’s aphorism, but some of us aren’t in complete control of our fears, depression, and anxieties. I hope the coming weeks help us all deal with this internalizing Trump 2.0

[kerry-is-my-prez]

30. I got my Masters in Social Work when I was in my 50's and a job right away.

I just retired at the age of 68. I’d still be working but I have bad ADHD and also OCD and that, plus my aging brain, made me have to leave.

[kerry-is-my-prez]

27. People need to start paying attention!!! Our country is being taken over!

I’m not kidding or being hyperbolic- we are REALLY in danger. I’m not one to believe in conspiracy theories or get panicked but I’ve been watching msnbc continuously since the election and this is really “coming together” or connecting the dots for me.

[Wounded Bear]

32. If you worry about something that hasn't happended yet, you get to suffer through it twice...

[Hamlette]

34. I feel exactly the same way

I dare not even turn on the TV for fear I will hear some news. We outlawed talk of Trump at bridge forever. I didn't cause this, I did everything in my power to stop it, (volunteer, donate) and there is nothing I can do right now.

I just bought myself a new quilting machine so I'm going to learn a new skill and listen to audio books.

Sound the alarm if there is something I can or must do. I'll be there.

[NJCher]

42. good for you on the quilting machine

Personally, I am taking a course on how music and mathematics relate.

Re television commentators, other than Lawrence and Rachel, I don't put too much stock in them. That is because I have found them making too many errors--not necessarily factual, but judgmental, and errors that show how little actual involvement they have had in government.

I have used the court system for decades, and I've also, mostly through my union, worked with legislators on the state level. (I have done a little federal, such as testifying to committees, like on airspace regulations). I don't share the cynicism that we find so often. People here are already screaming that the Democrats are doing nothing, but until you've been on the inside of working with legislators, you don't realize how careful one has to be. There could very well be plenty going on and we wouldn't know about it...yet.

In short, what I'm saying is that I'm not as alarmed as everyone else because of having worked in so many areas of government. The other is that Kamala Harris is very, very sharp. I would never want to go up against her.

[Hamlette]

43. I've seen much of the same

I'm a retired lawyer. I worked in state/federal agencies for over 30 years. And for all those years, and more before, the right has been saying government employees are lazy and unnecessary and we should run the government like a business.

It isn't a business so it doesn't work you idiots. On a smaller scale look at private schools. They can show great test results and do it cheaper than public schools because private schools are not required to provide an education to people with disabilities. Or kids who are truant, or who need extra help because the private school kicks those kids out.

Drives me nuts. Clown cabinet indeed. As for Lawrence and Rachael, I like Nichol and Chris Hays too. YMMV

[Hamlette]

45. I saw much the same in my job

I'm a retired lawyer. I worked in state/federal agencies for over 30 years. And for all those years, and more before, the right has been saying government employees are lazy and unnecessary and we should run the government like a business.

It isn't a business so it doesn't work you idiots. On a smaller scale look at private schools. They can show great test results and do it cheaper than public schools because private schools are not required to provide an education to people with disabilities. Or kids who are truant, or who need extra help because the private school kicks those kids out.

Drives me nuts. Clown cabinet indeed. As for Lawrence and Rachael, I like Nichol and Chris Hays too. YMMV

[ecstatic]

35. I hear you. However, I'm glad some people are paying attention

Even though I cannot right now.

THANK YOU to those of you who are staying on top of what tRump is planning. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. Maybe some part of the gop can still be embarrassed.

[Richluu]

36. The good news according to Lawrence O'Donnell

Is that border czar is not a real govt position and therefore has no power, just influence. And with midterms coming he only had 18 months to make mischief.

[Initech]

44. We can't have nice things in this country because a hostile propaganda outlet needs ratings. Insanity.