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In It to Win It

(9,704 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:44 PM Nov 12

Four women challenge Idaho's abortion ban in court

https://idahocapitalsun.com/2024/11/12/four-women-challenge-idahos-abortion-ban-in-court/


At 16 weeks pregnant, Rebecca Vincen-Brown received devastating news. Her fetus had multiple structural defects, including a dangling choroid plexus in the brain, a heart rotated on its axis, a horseshoe kidney, no detectable bladder or diaphragm, a displaced stomach, and missing digits on the right hand.

Her options were limited. She could continue the pregnancy, risking serious health complications like preeclampsia or hemorrhaging, face a miscarriage that might jeopardize her fertility, or seek an abortion.

Vincen-Brown chose an abortion, but Idaho’s strict abortion bans left her with no choice but to travel out of state for care. After the first day of the procedure, her pregnancy ended in the bathroom of a Portland hotel, where she gave birth to the fetus while her toddler was in the room next door.

On Tuesday, Vincen-Brown testified before Ada County Judge Jason Scott, sharing her experience as one of four women suing the state of Idaho over its strict abortion bans that forced her to seek care out of state.

“If it was in Idaho … I would have been able to get into the car first thing when I first started contracting, drove down to the hospital, been with the doctors whom I trusted, been in an environment that I knew,” Vincen-Brown told the court. “It would have been covered by health care that I had, and I wouldn’t have been giving birth while my two-year-old daughter was on the other side of the wall.”
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Four women challenge Idaho's abortion ban in court (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 12 OP
Idaho voted for Trump Yavin4 Nov 12 #1
So? WhiskeyGrinder Nov 12 #3
They voted for Trump 3 times. Yavin4 Nov 12 #6
. WhiskeyGrinder Nov 12 #7
Conservative governance BOSSHOG Nov 12 #2
This is pretty much the reason we had Roe. Klarkashton Nov 12 #4
Ask how the state will manage the billions in additional education taxes in the coming years. TheBlackAdder Nov 12 #5

Yavin4

(36,513 posts)
6. They voted for Trump 3 times.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:26 PM
Nov 12

They voted for Republican senators that confirmed the justices to the SCOTUS that overruled Roe.
They voted for Republican governors and state legislatures that took away her reproductive rights.

So....what do you want us to do?

WhiskeyGrinder

(24,018 posts)
7. .
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:38 PM
Nov 12
So....what do you want us to do?
See that giving a shit when someone who wants an abortion can't get one -- or even better, giving money -- is much more effective than keeping electoral score.

What's that paper clip mean?

BOSSHOG

(40,114 posts)
2. Conservative governance
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 08:49 PM
Nov 12

Religious zealots dictating lives based on what they BELIEVE. How many zealots were aware of what they put this woman through? How many would have personally been negatively affected if she had an abortion? Cruelty. Hatefulness. Recklessness. Ignorance. All in the name of what?

TheBlackAdder

(28,968 posts)
5. Ask how the state will manage the billions in additional education taxes in the coming years.
Tue Nov 12, 2024, 09:05 PM
Nov 12

In Florida, for example, residents have to pay that $9K early years and $12K primary years education costs per kid. That's $160K just for basic education per each child spread over 18 years. That's not daycare, food, heat, lodging, medical expenses are applied. Since this targets the poorer of the state, most will be dependent on supplemental services. Multiply that individual child expenses across tens of thousands in a given birth year, and then compound that each and every year. Ten thousand kids born in one year will amount to nearly $2 Billion by the time they are emancipated. Enjoy your state bankruptcies Red States! Of course, you'll try to mooch off of other states, like you always do.

Yep. One just has to look at their property taxes and see the number one cost is education. In, NJ, where I live, it costs around $16K per year plus $800 in busing per child. If you have the poorest people, ones who are heavily dependent on supplemental services, these costs will be even larger. This might explain why a lot of Red States cut supplemental services, push for home schooling and church based education as a way to cut costs, while providing a lower grade of education product. These states are all for this now, but in a few years they'll be kicking themselves when the bills come due. Then more people will become up in arms that their school taxes are too high. From 1950 onward, the US birth rates per 1000 people have been steadily dropping. For the past 5 years it's been hovering at 12 per 1000. This stasis is why we don't see large fluctuations in education costs. But now, there is an imbalance and soon those effects will be felt.

These anti-abortion laws will place undue tax burdens on all state residents, and depending on how many extra births result each and every year, financially unsustainable.

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