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[live love laugh]

1. What exactly do you expect them to do?

[Zeitghost]

34. It appears that many

Would prefer they act more like Trump.

[Attilatheblond]

3. Just because they aren't all over media beating on their chests and screaming like SOMEBODY did last time

it's probably foolish to think nothing is being done. Think Harris is working for recounts of legislative races. Pretty sure a savvy hand like Joe has brought the best minds together to do as much as possible to set mitigation in place to protect the most crucial departments and INTEL

Might wanna look for ways to stay calm and network where you can. Who will help us? Or who will save us? We are the answer to both questions. Network and make plans to help others ride this out. There is more going on than you or I know. But your neighbors, that is the most immediate help. Be a part of that, it will help you feel a bit better.


Edited for typo in title.

[elleng]

12. Thanks

[SouthernCal_Dem]

4. Americans had a test on 11/5/24 and failed spectacularly

Now we all have to eat this shit sandwich. Nothing Biden or Kamala can do.

[aeromanKC]

5. Preparing for self exile.

Surely I'm kidding. Or am I?? 😵?💫

[onenote]

6. Tell us "what the fuck" you think that they can and should do?

Specifics please?

[Ilikepurple]

16. Politics isn't just a game of official acts

Are you saying the President and Vice President have no way of influencing public opinion of some of Trump’s plans? I’d think even slowing down the process of Trumpification of our government would give people more time to digest the kind of change going on. The nice thing about a forum like this is some useful specifics might arise or might not. Even if this is just a pressure release complaining session, does it really need to get shut down.

[LudwigPastorius]

30. The President and VP just spent an entire campaign season trying to influence the public's opinion of Trump's plans.

...and a relatively small majority of Americans considered those plans and said, "Yes, please!".

So, here we are.

[Ilikepurple]

35. There was also much denial about what Trump's plans were.

If they can make a few Republican Senators or Congresspeople or their constituents more nervous about the road ahead, maybe a couple appointments fail. Maybe Trump scales back his plans. Maybe nothing changes. Is your idea that they pack it in for the next two months and look to 2026 or 2028? Btw, your name makes me curious about what sort of music you do.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

7. Once you realize that no one is coming to save you -- especially after being told this election was a fight for

democracy -- you'll find a path open up for you.

[Prairie Gates]

8. Kamala's done...Biden is stepping out of it as is generally done

No, there is no help. This is what people voted for and we are on our own.

[poli-junkie]

9. They're scrambling to get judges confirmed.

Perhaps securing state secrets? Conferring with the generals?

[elleng]

10. Working, in the office;

distributing available funds from campaign, to pursue investigation, as well as their 'Day jobs.'

[tritsofme]

11. They are doing their jobs until 1/20/25, and preparing a peaceful transfer of power.

[ecstatic]

13. It's horrifying.

I guess Biden is just letting the American people sit with their decision. And what I've heard so far is horrifying.

[VMA131Marine]

18. That is how democracy works.

We had an election and a lot of people decided it wasn’t worth it to vote, apparently. So here we are. Hopefully there will be something left to salvage after 4 years. I suspect I won’t do much celebrating in 2026 though.

[33taw]

14. What do you propose they do?

[LeftInTX]

15. Posting constantly on DU with pseudo names!

[dalton99a]

17. Getting ready for Thanksgiving and Christmas

[doc03]

19. The voters fired them on Nov 5th. Now we have to suffer the consequences.

Trump has the Congress and the SCOTUS and he is replacing military leaders with people
loyal to him and Project 2025. There isn't much to do until voters figure they fucked up.
No matter which party gets full control of the government they always overstep and hopefully there
will be a Blue Wave in 2026.

[TheKentuckian]

20. What are they going to do, demand some Democratic Secretary of States and Governors to find

them scores of thousands of votes?

I guess if Biden has some massive force directly under his control and loyal only to him he could do a "finish all family business" maneuver or take our chances on starting the civil war and hope we maintain most of the military and public short of that we are pretty stuck.

The problem is we have way too many ultra stupid, traitorous low life motherfuckers not a lack of fight from politicians.

Maybe if someone has a time machine handy they can go back get Biden out earlier and whoever emerged half way run against him while his supporters stiff upper lip and go with it then MAYBE...just maybe we get ahead of the fuckwit wave...maybe.

[Kid Berwyn]

21. Hope they're planning on holding power.

They cannot hand over the Presidency to a puppet of Putin bent on becoming the new Shitler.

No. Fucking. Way.

[tritsofme]

24. Maybe they can get a mob together and storm the Capitol on 1/6?

[Kid Berwyn]

25. It'd be peaceful.

And law abiding, as opposed to the treasons Trump has already proposed.

[tritsofme]

27. Peaceful? Who knows. Lawful? You just proposed Biden stage a coup in the previous post.

[Kid Berwyn]

29. No coup if you uphold the Constitution.

Giving power to Putin’s little NAZI is un-American.

[tritsofme]

32. Why are you pretending it would not be a coup? Very strange.

[Kid Berwyn]

33. Nothing strange in defending the Constitution.

Don’t understand why you can not see that.

[tritsofme]

36. So why pretend that it would not be a coup? You seem to think a coup is justified, why not say so?

[Kid Berwyn]

37. Because it wouldn't be a coup.

Enforcing the Constitution includes protecting it from enemies of the Constitution, including traitors who work to destroy the Constitution.

[AkFemDem]

38. Stop with this nonsense

You can not stage a coup on a “might violate constitution” scenario. Biden and Harris have very prescribed roles and since Trump will not be in office until they leave, they can’t interfere with a peaceful transfer of power under the guise he will violate the constitution. The country doesn’t work that way.

Is it frustrating that we all know he will go down that road after he’s in office and no one can do anything about it now since he isn’t currently in office doing those things? Of course. But that’s the bind they are in.

Hopefully they’re using this time to drop as many poison pills into legislation as is legally possible right now.

[tritsofme]

39. Well, the Constitution defines the process for selecting a new president.

It defines the length of terms.

I guess I just missed the part where the current president is empowered to arbitrarily extend his term to defend against whoever he declares to be an enemy?

Good thing Trump missed that section in 2020!

This is some pretty silly stuff.

[onenote]

28. And how would they do it?

I guess they could say that when they committed to a peaceful transfer of power they had their fingers crossed. Yeah, that’s the ticket.

[Kid Berwyn]

41. President Biden would declare a national emergency.

SCROTUS says he can no do a whole lot more to protect and defend the Constitution.

Therefore, he cannot in good faith turn over the government to people who would end the Constitution.

Then he can De-MAGAfy the government’s three branches.

To exit the national emergency: Hold elections without insurrectionists and we can go from there.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

22. Preparing for

our own January 6th.

[Hope22]

23. MSMBC just showed VP Harris arriving at the WH today.

The staff was outside on the street clapping and honoring her. She sent out love and thanks to them with a smile and a wave and then told them to get back to work! There is much to do!😁💗💗 I saw video of Biden at the beach with Jill chilling as I believe he is supposed to be doing at this point of the venture. We have had many tight, crazy elections in the past and I’ve never seen the ‘retiring’ President get involved in the counting. Harris is on the job.

[jalan48]

26. Trying to give the appearance that things are normal.

[usonian]

40. IMO, they should be making irrevrsible moves that TSF can't undo.

Things of "The cat's out of the bag" sort.

Think Ukraine.

Repubs have repeatedly trashed works in progress just before elections, and privately, as well.

So do something after the election.

Is someone going to fire them?

No.